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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:23:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Coyskurk wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well. Yanno, you'd think that, but apparently the ORBOMB ammo is made from Tritanium.... Edit: In the lore there is also a weapon designed to blast apart walls that uses Tritanium rods that are exposed to the atmosphere. Not sure why that's relevant, just thought I'd throw it out there. This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
Also a titan in the atmosphere would never be a good thing |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:36:00 -
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Also, if they ever initiated FTL/warpdrive inside the atmosphere it wouldn't be good for a lot of people nearby. |
Renzon gunn
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:39:00 -
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Swamp gas reflecting off explosions, your fighting to hard its effecting your mind... |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:40:00 -
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*oops wrong thread* |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:43:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
Chucking a lump of raw potassium or sodium in a lake is pure fun and is a nice light show!
Quite dangerous though
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Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:46:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly. Glad to hear a lore backing, even if I was getting my reason wrong the whole time However, some PI facility descriptions mention the use of Tritanium requiring vacuum chambers to avoid issues - Why don't they just alloy it like the starships? That also leaves DUST industry in a pickle - if your HAV can use asteroid-mined Tritanium for construction, what in the Hek system needs to be built specifically on a planet (and hence by us bunnies)? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:58:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
I have been saying this for half a decade and nobody in eve listens. Sheesh I mean how else can ships in eve have atmosphere on the inside of the ship. Thank you for finally putting a nail in that coffin.
That still doesnt explain the shuttle and the crew of 6 |
zaltern
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:11:00 -
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do we need to lock you up in the crazy house? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:29:00 -
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amarrian victorian wrote:man, after watching that again, I think the game looked better, at least concept wise. it looked like players were buying the equivalent of null cannons and grouping them into what would be player bases ( just some structures people call down). In all likelihood that and a LOT of other stuff is already built into the game, it's just not turned on. Fundamentals first!
Which is the way things should be, this EVE-DUST thingie is a complicated beast. Plus it saves us all hours a day having to thrash them on the forums for doing things back-asswards. ;) |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:45:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote: Also a titan in the atmosphere would never be a good thing Yes but.....
DEVS ARE YOU LISTENING?
If CCP wants the award for the coolest thing ever done in gaming then we neeeeed to see a carrier drop through atmosphere a la BSG, release a wing of merc-piloted fighters at 1000m and a platoon of merc infantry at 100m, and punch the jump drive 50m before impact.
Force insertion New Eden style, I sez.
Coolest. Thing. Ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkCpnGMyGw |
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Renzon gunn
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.01 14:39:00 -
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When and I'm hoping this is going to happen. They do merge both platforms the EVE on-line guys can then use their on-line character to get involved with dust514 and vice-versa then this would turn into a place where we could fight a battle in dust then jump into our Gallente/Caldari Frigate's and scoot on out into the galaxy. It might not happen but would be the first steps into one of the best on-line massive universes to use at your will. To me this is mind blowing I'm new to this I've played EVE about 6 years ago really enjoyed it and couldnGÇÖt afford to keep on at the time. Now I'm just stuck for time, wife, kid, work but when I have time to spare it would be amazing. Maybe wishful thinking but just but.... |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:21:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really)
you DEV's like to tease us, dont ya'll? |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:22:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Coyskurk wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well. Yanno, you'd think that, but apparently the ORBOMB ammo is made from Tritanium.... Edit: In the lore there is also a weapon designed to blast apart walls that uses Tritanium rods that are exposed to the atmosphere. Not sure why that's relevant, just thought I'd throw it out there. This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
Ah, right.. More "non-lethal" tools.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:24:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Coyskurk wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well. Yanno, you'd think that, but apparently the ORBOMB ammo is made from Tritanium.... Edit: In the lore there is also a weapon designed to blast apart walls that uses Tritanium rods that are exposed to the atmosphere. Not sure why that's relevant, just thought I'd throw it out there. This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
and you just knew that all off the top of your head?
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:25:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
and you just knew that all off the top of your head?
You should see the explanation on how the new stealth bombers were designed. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:29:00 -
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no thank you, there's more damn lore in this game then there is books in a library. i'm addIcted as it its, STOP TEMPTING ME!!! |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:32:00 -
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I shall tempt.
http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/
all short reads though. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
758
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:35:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened?
I was joking, honestly.
Zat Earthshatter wrote:However, some PI facility descriptions mention the use of Tritanium requiring vacuum chambers to avoid issues - Why don't they just alloy it like the starships?
Those applications specifically require pure tritanium.
General Tiberius1 wrote:and you just knew that all off the top of your head?
Falcon and I know pretty much everything lore-related off the tops of our heads. |
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:50:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? I was joking, honestly. Zat Earthshatter wrote:However, some PI facility descriptions mention the use of Tritanium requiring vacuum chambers to avoid issues - Why don't they just alloy it like the starships? Those applications specifically require pure tritanium. General Tiberius1 wrote:and you just knew that all off the top of your head? Falcon and I know pretty much everything lore-related off the tops of our heads.
You and him are kind of the gods of lore somewhat. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.01 16:13:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really)
Glad to see someone from CCP is taking a little more initiative on the forums. Hope the extensive trolling doesnt drive you away. |
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From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2013.02.02 05:26:00 -
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PICS OR IT DIDN-¦T HAPPEND!!!! |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
107
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:00:00 -
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From Costa Rica wrote:PICS OR IT DIDN-¦T HAPPEND!!!!
Dude, you're about three pages too late to the party with that quote.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:16:00 -
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you sadist you! 100 short stories is NOT short! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:17:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? I was joking, honestly. Zat Earthshatter wrote:However, some PI facility descriptions mention the use of Tritanium requiring vacuum chambers to avoid issues - Why don't they just alloy it like the starships? Those applications specifically require pure tritanium. General Tiberius1 wrote:and you just knew that all off the top of your head? Falcon and I know pretty much everything lore-related off the tops of our heads.
EVERYTHING?!?!?! that must have taken years! |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:40:00 -
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Coyskurk wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well.
Need citation for the bolded section please.
nvm, I recall the bit as mentioned in the post above by CCP Eterne. It was strictly related to refining or something iirc. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:42:00 -
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Back on topic of the OP...I was spawning last night on I believe 'Launch Pad' and saw something that was NOT a RDV leaving the field or a Dropship wiz across the map. Though it moved at about the speed of a Caldari DS with an Afterburner active it was definitely something else, it was shaped like an elongated diamond and was much thinner than either flying machines we currently have in game. Whether the OP was joking or not I saw 'something' that made me say WTF out loud. So is CCP up to some shenanigans, do we have a ghost in the machine or did someone drop some LSD in my can of Coke...IDK. |
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CCP Falcon
C C P C C P Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:05:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Coyskurk wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well. Yanno, you'd think that, but apparently the ORBOMB ammo is made from Tritanium.... Edit: In the lore there is also a weapon designed to blast apart walls that uses Tritanium rods that are exposed to the atmosphere. Not sure why that's relevant, just thought I'd throw it out there. This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly. and you just knew that all off the top of your head?
Yes
I actually just sat and wrote that out over the course of about 5 minutes to respond to the question
(It also helps that before I came to CCP I was an Electrical & Robotic Engineer with a double masters. Technical backstory is a huge interest of mine, but to be fair I just love New Eden's background, and have been playing EVE since release so I get as involved as possible with all elements of backstory ) |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:26:00 -
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i think the devs are testing the fighters in public matches. Well everybody time to get our swarm launchers ready. Shot that guy down and bring me his head the reward will be 10 million ISK when you have actual proof of this happening. Proof can be considered as the following: -clear pictures that identify a new kind of vehicle -identification of a Dev flying a weird machine (and no a dropships, LAV's, HAV's, MCC or RDV's do not count) -shoting the "UFO" down with any weapon avaible -Youtube vid of spotting a new kind of vehicle (i will validate the vehicle when i see it)
Further i might have following clues for the "UFO hunters": -If you see a dev in the lobby keep a eye on him at all time -on skirmish look for people who are waiting till everybody else are gone away from the main spawn area to call in a "special vehicle" -keep a eye out for console commands (devs can use them like in the tourny like god mode etc.)
If you cant destroy the UFO (cause its on your team) then get a dropship and follow it around the map and make a vid about it!
And yes i repeat it again: 10 million ISK for that man/woman who can confirm a Dev flying a "UFO" with pictures. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:31:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:iceyburnz wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Those aren't UFOs, they're EVE players.
(not really) Confirm/deny this happened? Well it most certainly isn't EVE players (If it was seen in the planet's atmosphere and I'm guessing it was) because their ships are made partly out of tritanium... Which explodes when it enters atmosphere. But yes we are getting Sub-Orbital Fighter Ships. If you pay attention in the opening cinematic you can see them near the end. And in some concept arts they are there as well. Yanno, you'd think that, but apparently the ORBOMB ammo is made from Tritanium.... Edit: In the lore there is also a weapon designed to blast apart walls that uses Tritanium rods that are exposed to the atmosphere. Not sure why that's relevant, just thought I'd throw it out there. This would be the "Spoke Bomb" mentioned in the EVE novels. It's quite nasty and is usually used for clearing rooms, destroying structures, forced entry and clearing debris in search and rescue operations. As for the use of titanium in ship building, it's generally alloyed with other metals and as such, isn't going to explode if it comes into contact with breathable atmosphere. It's the same concept as magnesium and potassium being pretty volatile metals on their own (try dumping a lump of raw potassium in water, or using setting fire to a pure magnesium ribbon). When they're alloyed however, they lose a lot of their volatile properties. For instance Magnesium alloys are used to produce lightweight alloy wheels and engine parts for cars and trucks. It's the same for tritanium. The issue that EVE's ships have isn't based around the volatile nature of tritanium, they simply aren't designed to fly in atmosphere. They're far too heavy, they don't have the right aerodynamic properties, and don't possess the correct control systems for air flow management to be able to manouvre correctly.
and you just knew that all off the top of your head? [/quote]
Yes
I actually just sat and wrote that out over the course of about 5 minutes to respond to the question
(It also helps that before I came to CCP I was an Electrical & Robotic Engineer with a double masters. Technical backstory is a huge interest of mine, but to be fair I just love New Eden's background, and have been playing EVE since release so I get as involved as possible with all elements of backstory )[/quote]
TL;DR: dont fight with the DEVS-geniuses who know EVERYTHING side note-can you build me a robot with lazer beams of death then?
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:32:00 -
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stupid limit on quoting people, screwed up my post :( |
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