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amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:05:00 -
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It's a serious conscern I think a lot of people have, will Dust be playable on PS4? according to the PSN blog a major announcement will be happening Feb 20th 2013. ( source) http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/01/31/see-the-future/
That said, will there be a PS4 port of dust, will dust be remade to take advantage of the PS4's extra power? or will Dust be one of the last supported games on ps3?
I would hate for this game to fail simply because it went open beta 2 months before next console anouncements. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:09:00 -
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As rumors has it as a launch title, and no it will not be taking full of the ps4's total power hardware calculation side, graphically yes. game mechanics and limitations no.
Until they retire the ps3 client, the ps3 will be the blockage between ps4s full potential and ps3 lacking potential. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:10:00 -
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don't really think it's ps4's announcement..... |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As rumors has it as a launch title, and no it will not be taking full of the ps4's total power hardware calculation side, graphically yes. game mechanics and limitations no.
Until they retire the ps3 client, the ps3 will be the blockage between ps4s full potential and ps3 lacking potential.
I just hope there IS a client for the ps4, even if it can't take advantage of all the power the ps4 has it will be nice.
other guy
You are right it might not be the next console announcement but it is in the realm of possibility, even if it isn't it might also be announced around e3 this year. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:16:00 -
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CCP has stated before I believe that ps4 is on the road map can't recall the specific interview though. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:22:00 -
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Sony already said they won't launch the system till they see what Microsoft does with Xbox. So unless there's been a change in plans and they want to jump in first PS4 won't be getting an official release date till summer. |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:53:00 -
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I really cannot see why the PS4 couldn't be backwards compatible with the PS3. Is there some kind of tech that would make this impractical? then again, this is Sony we are talking about. |
develsgun
Phyrexian Engineering Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:56:00 -
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Ps4 has not been officially announced and is officially still under development.
Its been stated many times befor dust will be ported to ps4 and will continue to grow even with the ps3 still online.
If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around.
Now for the run search rant
This is about the fifth thread on this subject people run a dam search especially for an essy to find subject like this where u only need to search ps4 as it is basically none dust related and pops up in its own threads not all the other dust threads like snipers ars or dropships seriously now |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:40:00 -
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Nope, it is impossible to port an Unreal engine game from one platform to another. |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:49:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:I really cannot see why the PS4 couldn't be backwards compatible with the PS3. Is there some kind of tech that would make this impractical? then again, this is Sony we are talking about.
yes, ps3 uses cell processor, PS4 almost definitely will not. |
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Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Sony already said they won't launch the system till they see what Microsoft does with Xbox. So unless there's been a change in plans and they want to jump in first PS4 won't be getting an official release date till summer.
This won't be the launch of the system. An announcement is extremely likely now. Release later on in the year.
I have to imagine there will be a next Playstation client and hopefully Microsoft change their policies about 3rd party servers and CCP can get it on the next Xbox, too. There is nothing technically stopping them. |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:55:00 -
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develsgun wrote:If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around.
Sources for this? Please don't link to the Playstation Blog. Anything affiliated with Sony is going to be tainted from a reality perspective.
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Nexus Tau
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:01:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Nope, it is impossible to port an Unreal engine game from one platform to another. They did it with eve. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:04:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Nope, it is impossible to port an Unreal engine game from one platform to another. You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. |
BigussDikkuss
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:16:00 -
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develsgun wrote:If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around.
256 X 2 RAM = The PS3 maxed out years ago.
With that piddly amount of RAM, no game can "reach it's full potential" no matter what the CPU/GPU can do.
Apparently Sony hasn't learned much either. IF the current rumored specs for both the PS4 and Next Xbox are to be believed, only 4 GB of RAM are coming to the next Playstation with Microsoft's machine having TWICE that. Also, Sony is definitely NOT waiting "to see what MS is going to do with their next console." A pre-E3 announcement from both companies and an E3 showcase of the next generation is a sure thing. |
Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:18:00 -
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Why is the assumption automatically made that the PS4 won't be capable of playing PS3 games?
Maybe some of you are too young to remember but the first iterations of the PS3 could play PS2 games just fine.
I also read, though I will not dig to find it again to prove it to you, that it's already been stated that DUST isn't maxing out the abilities of the PS3.
You guys should find something else to worry about. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:19:00 -
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Okay... Seriously? You all are blowing this whole thing out of proportion. Especially over such a pathetic teaser.
See The Future
Talk about really vague -- like most teasers. If anything they will talk about the future of SEN (Sony Entertainment Network) which is what PSN falls under really, and the future of PlayStation as a whole. They may briefly talk about the revealing of the PlayStation Orbis later at a game expo, but really? Expect nothing too big. Well nothing like what most of you are expecting.
Sheesh.. Seriously I have not seen this much hype since the teaser for The Elder Scrolls V: SKYRIM.
PlayStation Orbis will most likely release the following year. Most likely. As for what that means for Dust514; do not worry. CCP has a plan and it does involve a transition eventually. |
Luxuro
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:21:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:I really cannot see why the PS4 couldn't be backwards compatible with the PS3. Is there some kind of tech that would make this impractical? then again, this is Sony we are talking about.
I'm actually wondering about this a lot because I want to know if Ill be able to DL things I have bought on PSN to the PS4 |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:25:00 -
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Grendel Aurelius wrote:Why is the assumption automatically made that the PS4 won't be capable of playing PS3 games?
Maybe some of you are too young to remember but the first iterations of the PS3 could play PS2 games just fine.
I also read, though I will not dig to find it again to prove it to you, that it's already been stated that DUST isn't maxing out the abilities of the PS3.
You guys should find something else to worry about.
it may be able to, but it also might not, the ps3 could play ps2 games but it had a pretty expensive chip that allowed it to emulate the games.
the ps3 uses cell ( which is one of the reasons it was so much $$ at launch) the ps4 almost definitely will not. |
psyanyde
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:26:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:I really cannot see why the PS4 couldn't be backwards compatible with the PS3. Is there some kind of tech that would make this impractical? then again, this is Sony we are talking about. It could be backwards compatible if the rumors of Orbis using AMD Processors for CPU and GPU are true. (Which they appear to be.)
1st gen and 2nd gen PS3's were backwards compatible I don't see why the first generation of PS4's wouldn't follow that line of thought.
But like you said this is Sony. |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:52:00 -
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PS4 development is already being done, that is all |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:00:00 -
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Easy answer. DUST 514 will be on PS4. Nothing to worry about. The game will eventually upgrade to where a PS3 wouldn't handle it anyway. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:06:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:develsgun wrote:If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around. 256 X 2 RAM = The PS3 maxed out years ago. With that piddly amount of RAM, no game can "reach it's full potential" no matter what the CPU/GPU can do. Apparently Sony hasn't learned much either. IF the current rumored specs for both the PS4 and Next Xbox are to be believed, only 4 GB of RAM are coming to the next Playstation with Microsoft's machine having TWICE that. Also, Sony is definitely NOT waiting "to see what MS is going to do with their next console." A pre-E3 announcement from both companies and an E3 showcase of the next generation is a sure thing.
You do realise that 4 GB of RAM is alot for a console. Through optimisation and high bus bandwidth they get by fine. Is not the size its how you use it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:16:00 -
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Unreal 4 plays very well with unreal 3 |
Cinnamon267
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:39:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:develsgun wrote:If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around. 256 X 2 RAM = The PS3 maxed out years ago. With that piddly amount of RAM, no game can "reach it's full potential" no matter what the CPU/GPU can do. Apparently Sony hasn't learned much either. IF the current rumored specs for both the PS4 and Next Xbox are to be believed, only 4 GB of RAM are coming to the next Playstation with Microsoft's machine having TWICE that. Also, Sony is definitely NOT waiting "to see what MS is going to do with their next console." A pre-E3 announcement from both companies and an E3 showcase of the next generation is a sure thing.
I read something similar to that, too. Except the next Xbox has a lot of RAM reserved for OS functions. Giving the same amount as the next PS. Which is interesting. |
Irish Syn
Chernova Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:58:00 -
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We already know Dust 514 will be on PS4, I'm more curious to see how they handle it. I imagine their will be some cross play between PS3 and PS4 (even if it's using completely different architecture it should still work, I've seen other devs work on alpha builds where PC, PS3, and 360 were all playing together but they had to cut that out for retail version for obvious reasons). Eventually though they will have to focus their attention on the PS4 version. |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:29:00 -
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I would love a dev confirmation on a ps4 version. I suppose they can have low res textures and such for ps3 and 1080p and better textures on ps4. we will see though. |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:58:00 -
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amarrian victorian wrote:I would love a dev confirmation on a ps4 version. I suppose they can have low res textures and such for ps3 and 1080p and better textures on ps4. we will see though.
This should be what you are looking for. And they have already said they have a 5 year road map and I'm sure that includes being on PS4. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:11:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:BigussDikkuss wrote:develsgun wrote:If u read the sony blogs the ps3 has not reached even half potential it is not limiting any of its games and u can tell has when running the highest spec games on market if u touch the top of ur ps3 unless something was wrong with it it would still be cold to the touch if working at full potential it be warm or even hot to the to the touch. It is infact game makers holding the ps3 from reaching its potential not the other way around. 256 X 2 RAM = The PS3 maxed out years ago. With that piddly amount of RAM, no game can "reach it's full potential" no matter what the CPU/GPU can do. Apparently Sony hasn't learned much either. IF the current rumored specs for both the PS4 and Next Xbox are to be believed, only 4 GB of RAM are coming to the next Playstation with Microsoft's machine having TWICE that. Also, Sony is definitely NOT waiting "to see what MS is going to do with their next console." A pre-E3 announcement from both companies and an E3 showcase of the next generation is a sure thing. I read something similar to that, too. Except the next Xbox has a lot of RAM reserved for OS functions. Giving the same amount as the next PS. Which is interesting.
The current rumors are that the PS4 will use 4 GB of DDR5 and the Xbox will use 8 GB of DDR3. PS4 will be split into 3.5 and 0.5 and the Xbox will be split into 5 and 3 (for games and the OS). It being higher quality RAM (DDR5) makes up a lot of the numerical quantity difference. When including the rumored GPU and CPU, PS4 will have plenty of power for the next 5 to 6 years. Don't forget that consoles are highly optimized for what they do and get much more out of specs that appear to be below par.
As for waiting for Microsoft, no, I doubt that. Many quotes come out of large companies like Sony that are often contradicting, especially when the different regional divisions act fairly independent of one another. Plus, it's just corporate nonsense, they often say things they don't mean. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:41:00 -
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In a perfect world, dust would come out just as the ps4 comes out or the ps4 comes out just as dust does.
One came earlier, and I am dammed impatient to wait a year or more for the PS4 to come out, hell I couldn't even wait a week.
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