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Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:20:00 - [1] - Quote 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:21:00 - [2] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. This is all I saw. Give it to me now CCP! :D
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:23:00 - [3] - Quote bringing the pistol dual back, gunna be back to my mag days lol
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:52:00 - [4] - Quote 4-10 I completely agree with. I had an experience that combined 1 and 8. I was about to successfully solo a heavy, but then some blueberry ran in. jumped in front of my line of fire, blocking half my clip, and stole the kill. Ofc, they got the kill after I took the heavy's forge to the face and died.
suzisage Mercenaries on Demand 18	Posted - 2013.01.31 23:05:00 - [5] - Quote Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.01.31 23:11:00 - [6] - Quote suzisage wrote: Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!"
Ghost-33 ShootBreakStab 108	Posted - 2013.02.01 00:01:00 - [7] - Quote Skihids wrote: suzisage wrote: Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!" Or even better "Hey why are you willing to risk so much when this match doesn't really matter?!!"
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.02.01 00:16:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost-33 wrote: Skihids wrote: suzisage wrote: Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!" Or even better "Hey why are you willing to risk so much when this match doesn't really matter?!!" Actually it can mean many things: "I don't think you should call in a tank!" or "I hate ALL snipers!" or "I don't like your name!" or "I just confused you with someone else who I thought TK'd me yesterday" or "You aren't playing the way that I think everyone should play!" or "I just saw you TK that other guy!" (Who you were just getting revenge upon for TKing you...) It can mean just about anything and is (in)appropriate for all occasions.
suzisage Mercenaries on Demand 18	Posted - 2013.02.01 00:19:00 - [9] - Quote Skihids wrote: suzisage wrote: Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!" At that point, you're not easily killable and you a different message. Anyway, this is the game where mercenaries are reminded that committing suicide in public is prohibited.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1040	Posted - 2013.02.01 00:21:00 - [10] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. so what happens when a random blue runs infront of me in a gun fight. You have no idea how many scrubs have zero situational awareness. LAV TK Chinese Fire drill solves a lot of what you want to do without ******* over players for accidental Friendly Fire

Snaps Tremor Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 41	Posted - 2013.02.01 01:35:00 - [11] - Quote Well you sound like a fun guy to play with.
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 95	Posted - 2013.02.01 01:43:00 - [12] - Quote apart from 5 .. I disagree completly this is a team game you can't steal kills u d*ck. TKs should be reserved for ppl not contributing to the war effort i.e desertion which was punishable by death during WW2 etc so anybody sitting in the MCC trying to snipe (lol) any redline snipers, any redline tanks and anybody camping a spawn point.
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.01 02:34:00 - [13] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. Its people like you that make me fear friendly fire
Luxuro Nox Aeterna Security 1	Posted - 2013.02.01 03:42:00 - [14] - Quote I'd think there would be penalties for team killing. I'd also think that team killing is around to make us more attentive and not shoot through a crowd of teammates.
Andius Fidelitas Algintal Core Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.02.01 04:01:00 - [15] - Quote I actually wish CCP would implement a friendly fire mode for the sake of testing out. I mean, hello, this IS a beta after all, hypothesises have to be tested imperically? If CCP can now pull off two mode of Ambush to test out, why not a friendly fire Ambush and Skirmish? It should shut nonsensical "what ifs", and actually test it out ourselves, and gain the vital first hand experience, and conclude wether this is a good or a bad idea. After all, even in EVE Online, shooting your own team mate's ships is a possibility, but I can understand how the context of a 1PSh may be different, given how we die more often compared to when we fight in space.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.01 04:14:00 - [16] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. This is pretty much why Dust will never have FF. The amount of grief Tking happening would absolutely demolish the game, it would quickly turn into a blue vs blue and red vs red. Players would ignore the enemy team and fight amongst themselves. We would be rocking better suits, but not to take the enemy out easier, but our own teammates. CRU's would be the equivalent of a enemy camping a droplink. And droplinks would most definitely be deathtraps set by your team to try and lure in some gullible newberry to TK. There would also be corps created for the sole purpose of Tking, I saw this happen in Warhawk. Also lets not forget that hacking anything would be a death trap, as if a freindly sees you hacking first, they will simply kill you and take your spot so they get the full hack and not assist. Players already do this, it just doesn't kill you. The ability to easily TK in Dust would mean the end of Dust.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 130	Posted - 2013.02.01 04:44:00 - [17] - Quote Yes a better and easier way to lose your proto when someone sees you with it...this is brilliant..or i want the the 100 wp for the hack, ima steal your sagaris sucker
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2013.02.01 04:47:00 - [18] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. This is a good example of why Team killing will be great. Bad player will do these things and lose games because of it. That and the spamming of nades and MD's will become dangerous to ones own team. It will even push players sick of being team killed into good corps.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.01 05:28:00 - [19] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. This is a good example of why Team killing will be great. Bad player will do these things and lose games because of it. That and the spamming of nades and MD's will become dangerous to ones own team. It will even push players sick of being team killed into good corps. This is good reason to team kill? Look at some of the numbers lol. The first is a QQ TK. 2 doesn't even make damn sense. 3 is another QQ TK kill 4 Is a jelly kill 5 is something we should all do :) 6 summon another one? They're free. Another QQ TK. 7 yet again, another QQ TK. 8 This is an accidental TK 9 Is just being a **** 10 IS THE ONLY REAL REASON.
1LTNORFLEET Lost-Legion 24	Posted - 2013.02.01 05:46:00 - [20] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. if implemented i will personally give everyone 20 dollars if they kill icy tiger with a gun as friendly fire and will make sure to that icy tiger dies a most horrible death in evey game he plays on dust 514 i will give a bonus 20 if im in the lobby and i see it on the kill feed ps im might post this in diffrent laungages so out foreign friends get the picture

Drado Arona Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 64	Posted - 2013.02.01 05:53:00 - [21] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. Drado's seal of approval granted.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.01 06:23:00 - [22] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. Might be a good idea to get rid off the competition
V1RONXSS AL0NE Inc. 4	Posted - 2013.02.01 07:31:00 - [23] - Quote Agreed, to kill this emoraged clown jumping around while im sniping
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Legacy Rising 53	Posted - 2013.02.01 07:47:00 - [24] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. Agreed if any damages are fine-able scaled to damage caused and may restrict access to public games.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 10	Posted - 2013.02.01 07:53:00 - [25] - Quote Patoman Radiant wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: 1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates. Agreed if any damages are fine-able scaled to damage caused and may restrict access to public games. Seriously has anyone though what this means to vehicle pilots? Even a militia tank+fit comes close to costing more then you can make in a game.
DeeJay One BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2013.02.01 09:10:00 - [26] - Quote You all know that team killing for such things will result in you losing the entire match? Your clone reserves aren't unlimited and team killing will deplete them ;)
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.01 15:10:00 - [27] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: You all know that team killing for such things will result in you losing the entire match? Your clone reserves aren't unlimited and team killing will deplete them ;) I cloned my own team with an LAV, pub matches are meaningless.
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.02.01 16:15:00 - [28] - Quote Cripes, I remember when team~killing was an issue in MAG; kill ~> "oh **** let me rez you" ~> tk again ~> "oh wait I fkn meant it a@@hole ". In a game like Dust it can get more seriously messed up; anyone call an orbital strike on your side just for sh*t & giggles? I'd have to say that if they allowed tk's at some level, they could implement a bounty system similar to what they have in EvE. I'm pretty sure it'd be complicated and what not but wouldn't mind seeing if they could pull that off somehow. Could be friendly fire does minimal damage (like 1/5 normally what it would do), but if you start killing off players in increasing number the amount of damage you take from friendly fire goes up as well? Hey just an idea being tossed out there... On the idea of vehicles and proto suits, I'm seeing that anyways and when corps run in groups of 4 at least and it's a good corp, they usually only loose 1, 2 vehicles most if they get bored and get more aggressive for kills. Yeah it's a pub match but when people start doling out the higher end stuff, you know it's just the beginning... And if you just loose one of them, your loot just might cover the lost.
R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2013.02.01 17:12:00 - [29] - Quote So much angst over the fear that FF will be enabled in pub matches. It won't be.
Luxuro Nox Aeterna Security 1	Posted - 2013.02.01 17:33:00 - [30] - Quote They better put in penalties or we will have trolls chucking grenades at friendlies



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