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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.01 17:43:00 -
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You'd have to be a complete moron to think FF in pubbie matches would make it better, 10 reasons to tk a bluedot you say? well the troll that can constantly reroll accounts he only needs 1 reason, to be a complete ******** to you and anyone else he feels like.
If this was brought in tomorrow you'd be back here in a week posting with an alt crying for it to be turned off. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:10:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:You'd have to be a complete moron to think FF in pubbie matches would make it better, 10 reasons to tk a bluedot you say? well the troll that can constantly reroll accounts he only needs 1 reason, to be a complete ******** to you and anyone else he feels like.
If this was brought in tomorrow you'd be back here in a week posting with an alt crying for it to be turned off.
^ this.
But 6 man Imperfects squads with FF on in hisec... :D |
Pays 2 Win
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:13:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:1. To kill that annoying guy that stole your kill when the guy was at 4 armor. 2. To kill the guy who did 1. , but with a tank and held his shot till the last second. 3. To kill the a-hole who hacks the CRU or objective just as I'm warming up. 4. To kill the guy who takes his proto suit or Duvolle out in a pub match. 5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. 6. To kill the guy who stole your LAV. 7. To kill the guy who you're trying to rep but keeps running away. 8. To kill the guy who blocks you as your shooting past a corner and trying to get back to cover. 9. To kill guys for the fun of it. 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates.
Or you can just get good |
uruz7 fish
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
108
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:26:00 -
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tk is fine but if it adds to your stats then its not. How long would it take before a couple of people start camping their own cru's to tk and pad stats. Make it that tk is allowed, but does nothing to your kdr, wp penalty, and maybe a hit on payout of isk and loot |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:40:00 -
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Andius Fidelitas wrote:I actually wish CCP would implement a friendly fire mode for the sake of testing out. I mean, hello, this IS a beta after all, hypothesises have to be tested imperically?
If CCP can now pull off two mode of Ambush to test out, why not a friendly fire Ambush and Skirmish? It should shut nonsensical "what ifs", and actually test it out ourselves, and gain the vital first hand experience, and conclude wether this is a good or a bad idea.
After all, even in EVE Online, shooting your own team mate's ships is a possibility, but I can understand how the context of a 1PSh may be different, given how we die more often compared to when we fight in space.
FF will be abbused. U will see. Accidental shootings will occur, it'll **** the guy who got killed (because the moron who killed him wont have a mic or the brians to text sorry or something) off he will retaliate and so on so on so on. His buddies will kill that guys buddies and so on so on so on. (remember Mag to many imature people play games.)
If it is implemented it needs to be in seperate Modes. So i dont have to play with all the team killers who do it for no reason. Ambush FF on or Ambush FF off Skirmish FF on or Skirmish FF off
The off ones ill be playing cause i DTA. To many will abuse it for stupid reasons. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
1
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:12:00 -
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Anyone who is serious about DUST would be in a merc group that will not have a problem with FF in matches that matter. During public matches just wear the free armor and there is no problem. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:17:00 -
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suzisage wrote:Skihids wrote:suzisage wrote:Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!" At that point, you're not easily killable and you a different message. Anyway, this is the game where mercenaries are reminded that committing suicide in public is prohibited.
Griefer (Large Blaster Installation) Your full Poto Suit Griefer (LAV) Your expensive dropship Griefer (Large Railgun Istallation) The RDV carrying your Sagaris Griefer (Fused Locus Grenade) Your ADV suit Griefer (Remote explosives) You hacking an objective Griefer (Remote explosives) You spawning on his drop uplink ...
Honestly, there are so many ways to TK creatively that don't include applying a militia shotgun to the back of your clone's head that you could not guard against them all without drastically altering your play style.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:22:00 -
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Skihids wrote:suzisage wrote:Skihids wrote:suzisage wrote:Well, it is the future. Taken with context, team killing is like slapping the guy over head to say "Knock that off you idiot!" because he'll just pop out again at the near CRU. No, team killing is just a way to say "Hey, I just cost you 100,000ISK, ppphhhbbbttttt!!!" At that point, you're not easily killable and you a different message. Anyway, this is the game where mercenaries are reminded that committing suicide in public is prohibited. Griefer (Large Blaster Installation) Your full Poto Suit Griefer (LAV) Your expensive dropship Griefer (Large Railgun Istallation) The RDV carrying your Sagaris Griefer (Fused Locus Grenade) Your ADV suit Griefer (Remote explosives) You hacking an objective Griefer (Remote explosives) You spawning on his drop uplink ... Honestly, there are so many ways to TK creatively that don't include applying a militia shotgun to the back of your clone's head that you could not guard against them all without drastically altering your play style. if someone manages to LAV a dropship, TK or not I will applaud them |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:26:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: 10. To settle rivalries between squad mates.
This is all I saw. Give it to me now CCP! :D
may the best heavy win |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:28:00 -
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i think if they do allow FF, if you get killed by a ally it should count as 2 deaths on stats against the person that killed the ally.
also it should be negative 3x WP so people can't farm XP by bringing back a dude that they just killed. these implements will keep "top" players from just gunning down a bunch of allies because they don't like them because it ruins the thing they care about the most and that is the stats that they jerk themselves off to. |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:28:00 -
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Cpt Murd0ck wrote:apart from 5 .. I disagree completly this is a team game you can't steal kills u d*ck.
TKs should be reserved for ppl not contributing to the war effort i.e desertion which was punishable by death during WW2 etc
so anybody sitting in the MCC trying to snipe (lol) any redline snipers, any redline tanks and anybody camping a spawn point.
desertion in the line of duty is STILL punishable by death cowardice is a no no in militaries |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:29:00 -
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see how fast you'll ruin the gameplay experience, CCP. Just look at what these guys are looking forward to. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:30:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: 9. To kill guys for the fun of it.
This is pretty much why Dust will never have FF. The amount of grief Tking happening would absolutely demolish the game, it would quickly turn into a blue vs blue and red vs red. Players would ignore the enemy team and fight amongst themselves. We would be rocking better suits, but not to take the enemy out easier, but our own teammates. CRU's would be the equivalent of a enemy camping a droplink. And droplinks would most definitely be deathtraps set by your team to try and lure in some gullible newberry to TK. There would also be corps created for the sole purpose of Tking, I saw this happen in Warhawk. Also lets not forget that hacking anything would be a death trap, as if a freindly sees you hacking first, they will simply kill you and take your spot so they get the full hack and not assist. Players already do this, it just doesn't kill you. The ability to easily TK in Dust would mean the end of Dust.
read CCP policy greifing for the sake of greifing will get you hit by the ban hammer |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:31:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: 9. To kill guys for the fun of it.
This is pretty much why Dust will never have FF. The amount of grief Tking happening would absolutely demolish the game, it would quickly turn into a blue vs blue and red vs red. Players would ignore the enemy team and fight amongst themselves. We would be rocking better suits, but not to take the enemy out easier, but our own teammates. CRU's would be the equivalent of a enemy camping a droplink. And droplinks would most definitely be deathtraps set by your team to try and lure in some gullible newberry to TK. There would also be corps created for the sole purpose of Tking, I saw this happen in Warhawk. Also lets not forget that hacking anything would be a death trap, as if a freindly sees you hacking first, they will simply kill you and take your spot so they get the full hack and not assist. Players already do this, it just doesn't kill you. The ability to easily TK in Dust would mean the end of Dust. read CCP policy greifing for the sake of greifing will get you hit by the ban hammer That's the worst news I heard all day :( |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:32:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. Might be a good idea to get rid off the competition
this is one of the 7-----> ^ |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:33:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: 9. To kill guys for the fun of it.
This is pretty much why Dust will never have FF. The amount of grief Tking happening would absolutely demolish the game, it would quickly turn into a blue vs blue and red vs red. Players would ignore the enemy team and fight amongst themselves. We would be rocking better suits, but not to take the enemy out easier, but our own teammates. CRU's would be the equivalent of a enemy camping a droplink. And droplinks would most definitely be deathtraps set by your team to try and lure in some gullible newberry to TK. There would also be corps created for the sole purpose of Tking, I saw this happen in Warhawk. Also lets not forget that hacking anything would be a death trap, as if a freindly sees you hacking first, they will simply kill you and take your spot so they get the full hack and not assist. Players already do this, it just doesn't kill you. The ability to easily TK in Dust would mean the end of Dust. read CCP policy greifing for the sake of greifing will get you hit by the ban hammer I grief for happiness. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:35:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:5. To kill the 7 snipers hanging back at the red line. Might be a good idea to get rid off the competition this is one of the 7-----> ^ Good luck bro. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:44:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote: 9. To kill guys for the fun of it.
This is pretty much why Dust will never have FF. The amount of grief Tking happening would absolutely demolish the game, it would quickly turn into a blue vs blue and red vs red. Players would ignore the enemy team and fight amongst themselves. We would be rocking better suits, but not to take the enemy out easier, but our own teammates. CRU's would be the equivalent of a enemy camping a droplink. And droplinks would most definitely be deathtraps set by your team to try and lure in some gullible newberry to TK. There would also be corps created for the sole purpose of Tking, I saw this happen in Warhawk. Also lets not forget that hacking anything would be a death trap, as if a freindly sees you hacking first, they will simply kill you and take your spot so they get the full hack and not assist. Players already do this, it just doesn't kill you. The ability to easily TK in Dust would mean the end of Dust. read CCP policy greifing for the sake of greifing will get you hit by the ban hammer I grief for happiness.
dont think they'll see a difference |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:45:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:see how fast you'll ruin the gameplay experience, CCP. Just look at what these guys are looking forward to. okay so the forum won't let me link it for some reason, but look up "Corp Battles: A message from the future" it should still be on page 1. read it then decide about how much FF could enhance dust EDIT: links working now https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55470 |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2013.02.02 09:37:00 -
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