I kill stuff with AV nades all the time. What's the problem?

Don't they have to be rather close to you to use grenades?

It sounds like the infantry that should be covering you tank against saboteurs is the problem, not the grenades.

The problem is how fast you can spam them and how much damage they do because of the the spam. Throwing 3 av nades doing 1750 is 5250 in 3 seconds! Broken

Get good son.

I here there is a book that teaches these things to whiny kids like you

there AV there ment to blowup tanks. mr. zitro is like all other imps. he just wants to be a god

They can throw them 60m and an extra 10m with the magnetic feature they have

they really need to show us how much damage AV grenades do. And AV grenades need there tracking "feature" removed

tracking feature should stay
distance u can toss them should thus be slightly reduced

there AV there ment to blowup tanks. mr. zitro is like all other imps. he just wants to be a god

That's consistent with a grenade, and it has far less range than any other AV device.

The solution is screening infantry, precisely the solution used by real militaries against close quarters saboteurs.

I expect that CCP will decide that AV Grenades are working as intended.

Marauders are subject to RPS like everything else.

The problem is how fast you can spam them and how much damage they do because of the the spam. Throwing 3 av nades doing 1750 is 5250 in 3 seconds! Broken

Av grenades have less range than swarms that go across the and a forge gun that has 200-300m yes it has less range. But it out dps all the other av weapons. And nothing is broken about that?

The problem is how fast you can spam them and how much damage they do because of the the spam. Throwing 3 av nades doing 1750 is 5250 in 3 seconds! Broken

Suck it up kid

AV grenades have less range than swarms that go across the and a forge gun that has 200-300m yes it has less range. But it out dps all the other av weapons. And nothing is broken about that?

Yep every thread Mr zitro makes is waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa

Cause he has
Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas.

No. That doesn't seem broken.

Forge Gun does more DPS than Swarm Launchers, but at lower range. AV Grenades do more DPS than a Forge Gun, but at much lower range.

That's a reasonable progression, especially since someone trying to use AV Grenades against a tank moving with an infantry screen is likely to die messily before they get close.

Infantry screens are the Rock to the AV Grenade's Scissors.

tracking feature should stay
distance u can toss them should thus be slightly reduced

Don't they have to be rather close to you to use grenades?

It sounds like the infantry that should be covering you tank against saboteurs is the problem, not the grenades.

Okay - let's try honesty. AV nades cost how much? Militia tanks who die to 3 cost how much?

It's a bit broken. But fixing it now seems like a horrible idea. Half my games are dominated by a blaster tank that speeds through all onslaughts to safety.

AV grenades are fine. Could you not start a nerfrenzy on grenades! It takes two to take out a militia LAV which is fine. You can throw one and finish it off with the AR whatever. Against tanks. The ones ive thrown them at it takes all three to get through thier shields on a militia one. With others i cant take shields out.

AV grenades are perfectly fine now. With the tracking.

there AV there ment to blowup tanks. mr. zitro is like all other imps. he just wants to be a god

Av nades should be buffed, it's very tedious and annoying to have to throw down a nano hive for the extra grenade to kill a militia tank.

Because we should be throwing out these antivehicle nades from up close? Sorry, I think the AV need is perfect the way it is. Still takes a good 3 or 4 Av nades to take out a fully armored vehicle and I don't see them being used against infantry effectively to call for a change.

bottom line: Tanks can be a game changer, but just as specialized infantry, Tanks are specialized. if you are expecting to be able to have 30k EHP and just sit on an objective, you are sadly mistaken. every time you pull that tank out, expect to be the center of attention. it's the risk you run when pulling out expensive equipment (same for heavy DS, proto gear ETC)

Driving a tank into CQ means you are at risk of getting AV frag spammed as it should be. If you are saying someone can solo your tank out in the open, you must be really bad at killing people who are running at your tank, or you have poor battlefield awareness.

Wrong swarms out dps forges versus armor(extra 25-30% keep forgetting exact number). And av grenades out dps swarms versus armor. If your solution for everything is teamwork you are blinded to broken game mechanic. The only thing forges are good for is shield tanks. Why because they have 100% efficiency not 69% like av nades and swarms do. You should really try both classes before you say they are balanced

30k EHP would be a tank not the 7652 EHP "tank" I have. Big names people draw attention, aur weapons draw attention, and I know tanks do, but being soloed by one guy with av nades and nanohives. That's equal to a proto heavy being meleed by a milita scout to death, that's how broken av nades are

It's not just tanks. The 3 rapid-throw AV grenades can easily take down any LAVs within range of their blaster turrets, before the driver can pick up speed again.

bottom line: Tanks can be a game changer, but just as specialized infantry, Tanks are specialized. if you are expecting to be able to have 30k EHP and just sit on an objective, you are sadly mistaken. every time you pull that tank out, expect to be the center of attention. it's the risk you run when pulling out expensive equipment (same for heavy DS, proto gear ETC)

I know who you are Zitro, I've played against and with you before back in the days when we were both codewish whores before the guns got recoil. I am saying if a tank pilot gets in a situation where they die out in the open from grenades they suck. I agree the nanohive spamming is a problem. I think a better solution is to lower the restock timer on grenades instead of nerf the damage. It takes 6-8 grenades to get through a well shielded tank, so lowering the damage on them would make them useless without a nanohive. Just fix the problem where it is caused.

I have never said lower the damage on av nades, I have just been pointing out facts as to why they are broken. The only thing I have talked about damage is the "type" of damage it does. An anti vehicle grenade should do equal damage to shield and armor not do a higher damage to armor and a lower to shield. My fix to av nades would be no replenishing or a heavy replenish cost to eat the nanohive faster or change the toss time to 3-5 second "arming" period before you actually release the nade.

I have never said lower the damage on av nades, I have just been pointing out facts as to why they are broken. The only thing I have talked about damage is the "type" of damage it does. An anti vehicle grenade should do equal damage to shield and armor not do a higher damage to armor and a lower to shield. My fix to av nades would be no replenishing or a heavy replenish cost to eat the nanohive faster or change the toss time to 3-5 second "arming" period before you actually release the nade.

we know, and next time, put down some text.

being directed to the "we were ganked" page is annoying

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The problem is how fast you can spam them and how much damage they do because of the the spam. Throwing 3 av nades doing 1750 is 5250 in 3 seconds! Broken

AV Grenades are broken.
Right now all a team needs to invest in is AV grenades you have 4 guys running around with them

AV Grenades are broken.

Really they should have a 3 second delay between throws. This way people can not sit and spam on nano hives. But AV grenades are still great start off combos or finishing combos

A Person can throw a AV nade quick then charge up there forge or lock on with swarms and take there shot with that then if the tank driver is still stupid to be in AV grenade range they can throw another one quick and then use there AV weapon again.

Right now all a team needs to invest in is AV grenades you have 4 guys running around with them no single tank will survive the process. You can eat up any type of tank quickly. And I think it is pretty cheap that they do not have to have a dedicated AV person to fight back with.

A single remote pack can take the tank down in one and 1 AV for LAV see the problem