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THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:58:00 -
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Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:01:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Based on everybody's threads everything needs a nerf...haha lasers are op hmg's are op and AR's are op.... |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
183
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:02:00 -
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nothing is op. |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:04:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, you crack me up.
In all seriousness, the AR is only good when you use it wih intelligance and exploit your opponant's weaknesses. At close range it gets shreded by HMGs and shotguns. At medium to long range laser rifles eat them for breakfast. For extreme long range the AR just can't hit, period. And you're food for snipers at those ranges.
I'll leave it at that for now. I'll let the others beat the horse. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:07:00 -
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Shotguns and HMGs > AR in close range, easily HMGs can compete at medium range, however situational Lasers > AR medium range Snipers > AR long range
The AR is not the master of anything, it's just a versatile weapon. This thread was only created as an overreaction to there being threads about heavies and HMGs. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:08:00 -
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Everything is gonna be nerfed soon. Then armor and shields will be OP. At least then we'd be back where we started.
The thing is, you described ARs as exactly what they're supposed to be: an all purpose weapon. What's your build like? What are you trying to use? Maybe someone can help you be more effective. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:09:00 -
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Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:10:00 -
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If I was a shadowy conspirator, I would have minions create characters to support this thread and lead to a massive 30 page debate and like 100 likes to the OP. I would then have others create separate threads claiming that the AR is OP. All that so everyone can shutup about lasers, heavies, HMGs, mass drivers, and everything else being OP when those things actually aren't OP at all. I want to put the whiny AR users on the defensive so they won't have time to fight their nerf war on everything else. |
Doc Kok
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:13:00 -
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Seriously. There's already an OP thread for every weapon look in up. |
Olav Grey-Mane
The Exemplars
58
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:14:00 -
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really? destroys 90% of everyone? than howcome I never get any kills? all I use is the Assault rifle and for some reason I'll get consistant hits yet no one drops...
I think you need to be nerfed, the Assault rifle has feelings and you hurt them. FEEL BAD! |
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Striosal
Onslaught Inc
2
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:17:00 -
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Note how he said while using two dmg modifiers well no ******* duh your doing more damage ofc your weapon is going to be OP dafaq lol.Maybe they should make it to where you can only use one dmg mod to keep the weapons at lease a bit more balanced |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:18:00 -
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To really elaborate on the current points and to add another twist, the AR is really good in pub matches where you just run around randomly and try to take on all-comers. This is especially true with more experianced players stomping newberries.
In more co-ordinated battles such as corp fights or squad play, you often will see much more weapons diversity. An example is a 4 man team I run with frequently for pub matches is one with AR, HMG, MD, and Laser (or sometimes a sniper that provides anti-sniper/overwatch to our squad). The AR does well at mid range and provides good covering fire but it's the other 3 that are the real damage dealers at thier respective arts. The MD deals with entrenched enemies, the HMG for anyone who comes too close, and the Laser/Sniper for dealing with threats at range or snipers. If a squad with such weapon diversity went up against 4 AR, all the squad needs to do is just get one of those guns at thier optimal range and it can easily drop most of them.
So when talking about what weapon's OP, please look at the bigger picture. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon
Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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if anything militia and standard needs nerfed not proto or advanced |
Sanchez4
Better Hide R Die
4
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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scopes are back in on advance level assault rifles |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:20:00 -
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Striosal wrote:Note how he said while using two dmg modifiers well no ******* duh your doing more damage ofc your weapon is going to be OP dafaq lol.Maybe they should make it to where you can only use one dmg mod to keep the weapons at lease a bit more balanced o/ I do that. Its very satisfying. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:21:00 -
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for burst and tac have fun |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:21:00 -
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Tac Com wrote:To really elaborate on the current points and to add another twist, the AR is really good in pub matches where you just run around randomly and try to take on all-comers. This is especially true with more experianced players stomping newberries.
In more co-ordinated battles such as corp fights or squad play, you often will see much more weapons diversity. An example is a 4 man team I run with frequently for pub matches is one with AR, HMG, MD, and Laser (or sometimes a sniper that provides anti-sniper/overwatch to our squad). The AR does well at mid range and provides good covering fire but it's the other 3 that are the real damage dealers at thier respective arts. The MD deals with entrenched enemies, the HMG for anyone who comes too close, and the Laser/Sniper for dealing with threats at range or snipers. If a squad with such weapon diversity went up against 4 AR, all the squad needs to do is just get one of those guns at thier optimal range and it can easily drop most of them.
So when talking about what weapon's OP, please look at the bigger picture.
Thank you for the intelligent post, that's a great point and why results from pub stomping shouldn't mean anything in comparison to corp battles. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:27:00 -
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Lets nurf everything and add this game to the cod series |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Lets nurf everything and add this game to the cod series
It would seem a good number of people are calling for that. I really hope it keeps it's unique feel. We have enough CoD clones around. |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
434
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:30:00 -
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Then why is it that my Mass Driver eats up AR users for lunch? Or that my swarm launcher destroys vehicles and your AR doesn't? I've even seen Nova Knives eat up your AR in CQC. It's a non-specialized weapon, it has no specialization. Therefore, weapons more specialized in a field will beat the AR at that field.
LOGIC! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:32:00 -
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here we go again.
they already nerfed it mate, they have nerfed EVERYTHING
nerfing doesnt work, balancing the game set up does. every weapon has it's niche, it counters something.
CCP should focus on better match making so the games arent scewed to one side. the AR does it's job, you're most likely just on the recieving end of a creodron |
psyanyde
CrimeWave Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:34:00 -
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Lets just say **** it and have all weapons removed from the game.
Victors of battles will be decided by strategic games of tic-tac-toe. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:34:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:If I was a shadowy conspirator, I would have minions create characters to support this thread and lead to a massive 30 page debate and like 100 likes to the OP. I would then have others create separate threads claiming that the AR is OP. All that so everyone can shutup about lasers, heavies, HMGs, mass drivers, and everything else being OP when those things actually aren't OP at all. I want to put the whiny AR users on the defensive so they won't have time to fight their nerf war on everything else.
i volunteer |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:36:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:here we go again.
they already nerfed it mate, they have nerfed EVERYTHING
nerfing doesnt work, balancing the game set up does. every weapon has it's niche, it counters something.
CCP should focus on better match making so the games arent scewed to one side. the AR does it's job, you're most likely just on the recieving end of a creodron Actually that gun is trash |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:45:00 -
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the OP threads are to OP, everybody uses em, they need a nerf. |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:17:00 -
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The AR is the easiest gun in the game to get kills with.
That is why the majority use it. It is good in almost all situations. |
Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:05:00 -
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I have an idea... how bout you send your feedback/request to the feedback/request forum... |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:06:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why.
It kills at medium range, and even close range. You can put it on any suit and use it on 100% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will never be any reason to use them.
fixed that for you
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
15
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:10:00 -
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I strongly disagree with this thread. Instead of nerfing the assault rifles, I think ccp should add more long range effective weapons. |
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Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:19:00 -
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AR is not OP, its the versatile weapon of the game, beating all other gun in their weakness, and lose in their speciality and great in teamwork this gun is fine .... OP you probably just not good right now work harder. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
46
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:26:00 -
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Nerd it if you like. We'll adapt and kill you just the same ;). |
The legend345
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:37:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Two words GET GOOD. That is all.... |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:43:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Two words GET GOOD. That is all....
I use an AR I am already good. |
The legend345
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:49:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:The legend345 wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Two words GET GOOD. That is all.... I use an AR I am already good. I find it hard to believe your good being in a starter corp. But then again im sure my def of "good" is different then yours. |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:51:00 -
[36] - Quote
The legend345 wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:The legend345 wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Two words GET GOOD. That is all.... I use an AR I am already good. I find it hard to believe your good being in a starter corp. But then again im sure my def of "good" is different then yours. OHHH BURRNNNNNN |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:51:00 -
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My Breach Mass Driver can Two-shot kill a heavy so surely it must be OP. |
Ultimate Rage
Wraith Shadow Guards
4
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:53:00 -
[38] - Quote
We should nerf you instead |
The legend345
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:55:00 -
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LOL the guy had 45000 kills with a 17 kdr last build xD. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:23:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with.
You have to actually aim with the AR to get kills. Give me one weapon that is harder.
HMG..spray and pray Shotgun...OHK Sniper...hiding off in the mountains Mass Driver....only handheld that misses and you still get a kill
Should I continue?? |
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Maestia
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:33:00 -
[41] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. You have to actually aim with the AR to get kills. Give me one weapon that is harder. HMG..spray and pray Shotgun...OHK Sniper...hiding off in the mountains Mass Driver....only handheld that misses and you still get a kill Should I continue??
Scrambler pistols, you have to aim with those too don't forget ( or atleast i do..). |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
217
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Posted - 2013.01.28 06:43:00 -
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Maestia wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. You have to actually aim with the AR to get kills. Give me one weapon that is harder. HMG..spray and pray Shotgun...OHK Sniper...hiding off in the mountains Mass Driver....only handheld that misses and you still get a kill Should I continue?? Scrambler pistols, you have to aim with those too don't forget ( or atleast i do..).
Snipers i think require some sort of eye winking type of function too no?
Oh and to OP ever consider its the DAMAGE MODS and NOT THE AR!!!!!
Shocker a module that is supposed to have a stacking penalty but instead has a stacking BONUS!!!(Check complex dmg mods when they are stacked) that it just might be the module.
And hey if you can take on a heavy with that setup great. Try to take me on with it, your lower shields mean i dont even need to bother with a flux before i 2shot you with my MD. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.28 07:19:00 -
[43] - Quote
I give the OP 9/10
Points deducted for using the nerf thread format.
Points added due to the level of response.
All in all, best one thus far. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:34:00 -
[44] - Quote
Maestia wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. You have to actually aim with the AR to get kills. Give me one weapon that is harder. HMG..spray and pray Shotgun...OHK Sniper...hiding off in the mountains Mass Driver....only handheld that misses and you still get a kill Should I continue?? Scrambler pistols, you have to aim with those too don't forget ( or atleast i do..).
Agreed, although they do considerable damage and is used as a sidearm mostly |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:48:00 -
[45] - Quote
Look! The clown face troll is back.
Ooh. What a lucky day for us all.
How long since the last one? Milliseconds are sooo long.
Take your high level AR and your 2 damage mods and put them where your next meal should come from. The Kitty Litter Box. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:54:00 -
[46] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:If I was a shadowy conspirator, -- rest of jerk post snipped -- Finally showing your true colors Kage. Which of your PSN accounts is this one?
Didn't get what you feel entitled to so you want to hack the forums to tweak DUST be more like what? MAG, maybe? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:54:00 -
[47] - Quote
Heimdallr69 wrote:if anything militia and standard needs nerfed not proto or advanced
I only gave you a like cuz your my brother and have no likes.......
Must. Troll. MOAR!
And ya not enough difference in the tiers, to similar. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I only gave you a like cuz your my brother and have no likes.......
Must. Troll. MOAR!
And ya not enough difference in the tiers, to similar.
There seems to be a reason no one likes him. You shouldn't encourage his miserable behavior by pretending you like him either. |
jpmannu
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
13
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP dont listen to these noobs, AR is fine and no nerf is required. |
Volgair
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
200
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:11:00 -
[50] - Quote
jpmannu wrote:CCP dont listen to these noobs, AR is fine and no nerf is required.
It in fact is OP. To claim that its not means 2 things. You haven't used the other weapons to have a grounds for comparison. Your simply not very good, or lack experience to make it work for you.
Its been OP since the start, which is fine so long as weapons like the MD, LAR and HMG have the ability to gain the upper hand so long as environmental conditions are met. |
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Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:16:00 -
[51] - Quote
I'd be kind of interested in seeing how the AR would behave with more recoil. Right now it's quite steady, and I can basically hold down the trigger to shoot off 30 rounds accurately, even while moving, without a problem. I don't know if the AR needs it or not, but I'd understand if they wanted to make controlling your fire more of a necessity to hit targets at range with the AR. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
165
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:44:00 -
[52] - Quote
Skilled players are OP. Since we canGÇÖt nerf them we need to nerf whatever weapon they are using!
But seriously, the fact that there is a nerf thread for every weapon in the game tells me that Dust is unusually balanced. |
jpmannu
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
13
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:44:00 -
[53] - Quote
Volgair wrote:jpmannu wrote:CCP dont listen to these noobs, AR is fine and no nerf is required. It in fact is OP. To claim that its not means 2 things. You haven't used the other weapons to have a grounds for comparison. Your simply not very good, or lack experience to make it work for you. Its been OP since the start, which is fine so long as weapons like the MD, LAR and HMG have the ability to gain the upper hand so long as environmental conditions are met.
you dont know what ur talking about, AR HAVE ALREADY BEEN NERFED ONCE., and that is enough. I suggest u guys some other shooters such as BF or COD... |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:18:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:THE-BEAST wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. You have to actually aim with the AR to get kills. Give me one weapon that is harder. HMG..spray and pray Shotgun...OHK Sniper...hiding off in the mountains Mass Driver....only handheld that misses and you still get a kill Should I continue??
Assault rifle can spray and pray has little to no recoil till about half the clip and has an effective range that rivals anything except snipers in the game. it should be good not the only gun to use.
Mas Driver - shoots explosive so yes if I land it next to you I will hurt you. But then your Dps is much much higher. Also implying that hitting you with splash is missing l makes you seem bitter don't be bitter.
Shotgun- working as intended (as much as I hate to say it) in the back of the head yea OHK usually takes even calamity jane two three shots to get me. If I see her coming.
HMG - and? It fires off 2000rpm thats what it is there for although most people I know that use it arent spraying and praying they target yoi and mow you down.
Now before all the AR fanboys go waaaah yo just hate it. I do hate it with a passion but doesnt stop me from goin 20-4 with 1 rank in ar.
It needs to be tweaked not nerfed balance the game not break it. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:24:00 -
[55] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I only gave you a like cuz your my brother and have no likes.......
Must. Troll. MOAR!
And ya not enough difference in the tiers, to similar.
There seems to be a reason no one likes him. You shouldn't encourage his miserable behavior by pretending you like him either.
lol he is my brother IRL broken
he just doesn't troll the forums like you and me lul. |
Dagon Cthulhu Clone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:25:00 -
[56] - Quote
once suit role bonus goes in we may very well see the return of the creo and heavys with 1500+ armour (and everything else that got the treatment). making the rivers of tears shed for nothing |
Sebastian Seraphim
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
25
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free
Oh look the inevitable happened. Now pretty much every primary weapon has been deemed OP and now they'll be nerfed so much that all of us will be running around with butter knives that do more damage than them... And then even that would be complained about.
Keep in mind:
IT'S A SCI-FI GAME.
It's not meant to be realistic, sniper rifles can shoot their rounds in a perfectly straight trajectory, HMGs get more accurate after being fired for longer and laser rifles get more damage after being fired for longer too.
Assault rifles basically fire massive slugs at a fast rate of fire and have a great range.
It's not fun if it's real. The surreal-ness of DUST is what attracts people to the game. The SCI-FI genre is popular due to people wanting to escape from the real world and fantasise about the future where our cars can fly and everything is much faster and the universe has infinite possibilities for humans.
Everything is powerful in DUST, the technology surpasses anything in the real world, even our drop suits could probably withstand any small arms fire from real life weapons like the M16. That's why the Assault rifles, HMGs, Sniper rifles etc are so powerful, because they need to be able to penetrate such a powerful suit.
And also here's the thing:
DUST was labelled as 'the thinking man's FPS' in some magazine when it first went into closed beta.
Think before charging at a guy with a better weapon then yours.
Think before running out of cover when a sniper has you pointed.
Think before running up to a heavy to kiss him and then being rejected with a hail of rounds.
You have to... That's right people, THINK.
If you know you have ****** militia armour on, don't charge a guy with a duvolle, try to flank him.
When you eventually realise (And I'm losing hope that any of you will) that this isn't your typical FPS, you'll start racking up the kills and then earn yourselves enough skill points and ISK to purchase and use those high tier, prototype suits and weapons that'll turn you into an infamous, deadly mercenary.
TL;DR Think, don't complain that you ran out and got killed by something.
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER: You will die a lot, don't complain about it, we all do.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I only gave you a like cuz your my brother and have no likes.......
Must. Troll. MOAR!
And ya not enough difference in the tiers, to similar.
There seems to be a reason no one likes him. You shouldn't encourage his miserable behavior by pretending you like him either. someone appears to be butthurt from the battlefield my skills speak louder than my txt |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:31:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free
BS. Troll. Next. ARs need a buff if any. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:49:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
I only gave you a like cuz your my brother and have no likes.......
Must. Troll. MOAR!
And ya not enough difference in the tiers, to similar.
There seems to be a reason no one likes him. You shouldn't encourage his miserable behavior by pretending you like him either. someone appears to be butthurt from the battlefield my skills speak louder than my txt
Don't cap out before I come over douche!
It's like 10a.m sleep in sometime.
Troll |
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SickJ
French unchained corporation
48
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:59:00 -
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Sebastian Seraphim wrote:
DUST was labelled as 'the thinking man's FPS' in some magazine when it first went into closed beta.
Think before charging at a guy with a better weapon then yours.
Think before running out of cover when a sniper has you pointed.
Think before running up to a heavy to kiss him and then being rejected with a hail of rounds.
QFT |
Volgair
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
200
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:29:00 -
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jpmannu wrote:Volgair wrote:jpmannu wrote:CCP dont listen to these noobs, AR is fine and no nerf is required. It in fact is OP. To claim that its not means 2 things. You haven't used the other weapons to have a grounds for comparison. Your simply not very good, or lack experience to make it work for you. Its been OP since the start, which is fine so long as weapons like the MD, LAR and HMG have the ability to gain the upper hand so long as environmental conditions are met. you dont know what ur talking about, AR HAVE ALREADY BEEN NERFED ONCE., and that is enough. I suggest u guys some other shooters such as BF or COD...
I have been playing this game since the first key issue after fanfest. And yes while the weapon got a little nerf here and there, they reduced almost all antipersonnel weapons across the board with chromosome. The AR was reduced less by percentage then the rest. The proto HMG for example was reduced by 10.5%. The officer HMG a full 20% and this is with, in the high end the HMG being grossly out performed by the AR. (A lot of that came from people using Modded controllers to auto fire the TAC AR)
The biggest thing with chromosome some call a "nerf" was slightly increased kick (still not enough) and the removal of the scope. The scope is coming back with the ability to mod your weapons.
Perhaps i should have added that "the AR is OP, people who are good with them or have played in any high end corp battle know they are OP, But we are all good with it because the other weapons need to be balanced around it to maintain quality base line game dynamics."
What i will say personally to you jpmannu is that you sound like a new player that has been around for maybe a month or 2 masquerading as an older player. Who has not quite figured out the way the game works fully. Those who have been around know that the AR has ALWAYS been the most powerful and adaptable weapon on the field. To deny that fact is to alienate your self.
For the record every Battle Field since 2142 and EVERY COD are sh*tty mass produced drivel that i would not waste my time playing. |
Alexi Loken
Caldari Strategic Solutions
7
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:49:00 -
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My response to all of this is put together a better fit. Remember its not just what you shoot people with it is also how you protect yourself. I use assault rifles with NO equipped damage mods, I equip myself with superior shield tech so that while I am engaging enemies I can withstand the punishment to give me enough time to either kill or weaken the enemies before they kill me. Besides heavies are slow its easy to get away from them and around them and really hammer at him by way of headshots. ALSO heavies from what I notice like to ho out in the OPEN because they are armored and have a big gun. For those who are not familiar to the universe of EVE you must remember you have to think about what you need or want to do and how you want to do it. To all CoD and Battlefield veterans EVE is not a universe where you can pock up something up and insta-win you have to actually use your brain and figure out what does and what does not work, scary thought huh? |
SickJ
French unchained corporation
48
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:43:00 -
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Alexi Loken wrote:To all CoD and Battlefield veterans EVE is not a universe where you can pock up something up and insta-win you have to actually use your brain and figure out what does and what does not work, scary thought huh?
This is more of an issue with the COD crowd than the Battlefield vets. (Respectable) BF players at least realize they can't take down a tank with a 9mm. |
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