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THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:58:00 -
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Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:01:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why. It is the master of the game.
It kills at long range medium range and even close range. You can put it on any suit and destroy 90% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will be no reason to use any other weapon in the game.
I suggest increasing recoil so that aft about 5-10 shots it is not accurate anymore. I can take out a heavy with 900+ shield in one clip. If anyone doubts this get a gek with 2 damage mods. Lolol
Seriously all you qq AR guys need to get good and quit blaming other suits for your weak gun game! The duvolle will be the king of the battelfield.
And even the exile with damage mods is extremely OP. Especially since its free Based on everybody's threads everything needs a nerf...haha lasers are op hmg's are op and AR's are op.... |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
183
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:02:00 -
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nothing is op. |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:04:00 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, you crack me up.
In all seriousness, the AR is only good when you use it wih intelligance and exploit your opponant's weaknesses. At close range it gets shreded by HMGs and shotguns. At medium to long range laser rifles eat them for breakfast. For extreme long range the AR just can't hit, period. And you're food for snipers at those ranges.
I'll leave it at that for now. I'll let the others beat the horse. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:07:00 -
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Shotguns and HMGs > AR in close range, easily HMGs can compete at medium range, however situational Lasers > AR medium range Snipers > AR long range
The AR is not the master of anything, it's just a versatile weapon. This thread was only created as an overreaction to there being threads about heavies and HMGs. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:08:00 -
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Everything is gonna be nerfed soon. Then armor and shields will be OP. At least then we'd be back where we started.
The thing is, you described ARs as exactly what they're supposed to be: an all purpose weapon. What's your build like? What are you trying to use? Maybe someone can help you be more effective. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:09:00 -
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Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:10:00 -
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If I was a shadowy conspirator, I would have minions create characters to support this thread and lead to a massive 30 page debate and like 100 likes to the OP. I would then have others create separate threads claiming that the AR is OP. All that so everyone can shutup about lasers, heavies, HMGs, mass drivers, and everything else being OP when those things actually aren't OP at all. I want to put the whiny AR users on the defensive so they won't have time to fight their nerf war on everything else. |
Doc Kok
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:13:00 -
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Seriously. There's already an OP thread for every weapon look in up. |
Olav Grey-Mane
The Exemplars
58
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:14:00 -
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really? destroys 90% of everyone? than howcome I never get any kills? all I use is the Assault rifle and for some reason I'll get consistant hits yet no one drops...
I think you need to be nerfed, the Assault rifle has feelings and you hurt them. FEEL BAD! |
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Striosal
Onslaught Inc
2
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:17:00 -
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Note how he said while using two dmg modifiers well no ******* duh your doing more damage ofc your weapon is going to be OP dafaq lol.Maybe they should make it to where you can only use one dmg mod to keep the weapons at lease a bit more balanced |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:18:00 -
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To really elaborate on the current points and to add another twist, the AR is really good in pub matches where you just run around randomly and try to take on all-comers. This is especially true with more experianced players stomping newberries.
In more co-ordinated battles such as corp fights or squad play, you often will see much more weapons diversity. An example is a 4 man team I run with frequently for pub matches is one with AR, HMG, MD, and Laser (or sometimes a sniper that provides anti-sniper/overwatch to our squad). The AR does well at mid range and provides good covering fire but it's the other 3 that are the real damage dealers at thier respective arts. The MD deals with entrenched enemies, the HMG for anyone who comes too close, and the Laser/Sniper for dealing with threats at range or snipers. If a squad with such weapon diversity went up against 4 AR, all the squad needs to do is just get one of those guns at thier optimal range and it can easily drop most of them.
So when talking about what weapon's OP, please look at the bigger picture. |
THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is everyone new to shooters or something??? ARs are always the most frequently used weapon
Yes you are right because the are the easiest weapon to get kills with. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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if anything militia and standard needs nerfed not proto or advanced |
Sanchez4
Better Hide R Die
4
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:19:00 -
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scopes are back in on advance level assault rifles |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:20:00 -
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Striosal wrote:Note how he said while using two dmg modifiers well no ******* duh your doing more damage ofc your weapon is going to be OP dafaq lol.Maybe they should make it to where you can only use one dmg mod to keep the weapons at lease a bit more balanced o/ I do that. Its very satisfying. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:21:00 -
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for burst and tac have fun |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:21:00 -
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Tac Com wrote:To really elaborate on the current points and to add another twist, the AR is really good in pub matches where you just run around randomly and try to take on all-comers. This is especially true with more experianced players stomping newberries.
In more co-ordinated battles such as corp fights or squad play, you often will see much more weapons diversity. An example is a 4 man team I run with frequently for pub matches is one with AR, HMG, MD, and Laser (or sometimes a sniper that provides anti-sniper/overwatch to our squad). The AR does well at mid range and provides good covering fire but it's the other 3 that are the real damage dealers at thier respective arts. The MD deals with entrenched enemies, the HMG for anyone who comes too close, and the Laser/Sniper for dealing with threats at range or snipers. If a squad with such weapon diversity went up against 4 AR, all the squad needs to do is just get one of those guns at thier optimal range and it can easily drop most of them.
So when talking about what weapon's OP, please look at the bigger picture.
Thank you for the intelligent post, that's a great point and why results from pub stomping shouldn't mean anything in comparison to corp battles. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:27:00 -
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Lets nurf everything and add this game to the cod series |
Tac Com
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
41
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Lets nurf everything and add this game to the cod series
It would seem a good number of people are calling for that. I really hope it keeps it's unique feel. We have enough CoD clones around. |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
434
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:30:00 -
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Then why is it that my Mass Driver eats up AR users for lunch? Or that my swarm launcher destroys vehicles and your AR doesn't? I've even seen Nova Knives eat up your AR in CQC. It's a non-specialized weapon, it has no specialization. Therefore, weapons more specialized in a field will beat the AR at that field.
LOGIC! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:32:00 -
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here we go again.
they already nerfed it mate, they have nerfed EVERYTHING
nerfing doesnt work, balancing the game set up does. every weapon has it's niche, it counters something.
CCP should focus on better match making so the games arent scewed to one side. the AR does it's job, you're most likely just on the recieving end of a creodron |
psyanyde
CrimeWave Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:34:00 -
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Lets just say **** it and have all weapons removed from the game.
Victors of battles will be decided by strategic games of tic-tac-toe. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:34:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:If I was a shadowy conspirator, I would have minions create characters to support this thread and lead to a massive 30 page debate and like 100 likes to the OP. I would then have others create separate threads claiming that the AR is OP. All that so everyone can shutup about lasers, heavies, HMGs, mass drivers, and everything else being OP when those things actually aren't OP at all. I want to put the whiny AR users on the defensive so they won't have time to fight their nerf war on everything else.
i volunteer |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:36:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:here we go again.
they already nerfed it mate, they have nerfed EVERYTHING
nerfing doesnt work, balancing the game set up does. every weapon has it's niche, it counters something.
CCP should focus on better match making so the games arent scewed to one side. the AR does it's job, you're most likely just on the recieving end of a creodron Actually that gun is trash |
Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:45:00 -
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the OP threads are to OP, everybody uses em, they need a nerf. |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:17:00 -
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The AR is the easiest gun in the game to get kills with.
That is why the majority use it. It is good in almost all situations. |
Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:05:00 -
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I have an idea... how bout you send your feedback/request to the feedback/request forum... |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
52
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:06:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Here is why.
It kills at medium range, and even close range. You can put it on any suit and use it on 100% of the player base.
If we ever get Scopes back there will never be any reason to use them.
fixed that for you
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
15
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:10:00 -
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I strongly disagree with this thread. Instead of nerfing the assault rifles, I think ccp should add more long range effective weapons. |
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