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DonRodie
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:30:00 -
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Ridgeway Semper Fi wrote:Well at least some people agree the game is still a disaster. I don't really care if people think it's wrong to play COD. This game in my opinion is a ****** version of COD anyway. Might as well go play the polished one. Thanks for the input to everyone that had something meaningful to say.
Also no one mentioned the SP cap. Did it switch to a daily cap or is it still weekly? Why did my friend get 50SP in a match after 7 games when he was leading on WP for my team? That makes me think it's daily now or seriously glitched.
WTF, you still play COD? COD is getting played out. If you play too much COD, you going to dislike games all together and think all games should be COD and only want to play COD lol. I like Battlefield 3 better then COD personally, and Dust 514 is like Battlefield, probably the reason I like it a lot. I actually like it more then BF3. |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:43:00 -
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Who cares if someone plays Cod, or BF3, or any shooter? why is it your business what games someone enjoys? |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:46:00 -
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Beast Beastlington wrote:You are absolutely right OP.
This should still be in closed beta because it's a train wreck at the moment. If there is a supposed new build due in February, CCP should have waited until then to release it to the public. Every preview I've read from any reputable gaming site has slated this.
Also, lol @ at the "YOU PLAYZ COD" brigade.
Sadly for you, CoD has 3 primary things that Dust doesn't have.
1) A good frame-rate
2) Excellent gun-play
3) Great sound design
Ok, now you're pushing it. It has a stable framerate, which is sh*t on by the completely ******** lag and the stupid lag compensation they've built in.
Gun play is not present in CoD, it's just not there. Every single gun can kill in less than 5 bullets, maps are rat mazes, whoever see the enemy first wins guaranteed, it has no gunplay whatsoever, it's basically a twitch shooter. And don't call me a hater, because I used to support CoD a LOT when it was getting sh*t on for MW2. Then 3 comes out completely garbage, BO2 was a step in the right direction, but it is nowhere near what the old CoD's were.
Sound is getting improved on, if you want to see real sound, try BF3 with a nice subwoofer. CoD sound can't even compare to BF3's. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:55:00 -
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Something to consider:
Hit detection is also server side.
No headshot bots for the enterprising cheater. |
Blooticus
Regime Of Shadow Marines
26
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:06:00 -
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There is a daily sp cap, but they are about to change that. In fact they may have already changed it, i havent played today, and they still randomly tweek stuff on a daily basis. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:30:00 -
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:lol.
1. You play Black Ops. lol
2. Of course its not the final build. The dude is a marine. Show respect.
Just skimming through. This is sarcasm, correct? If so, good work! If not, well, yeah.
Edit: Just noticed a lot of talk about fish and what I hope are references to Sock'em Boppers. Wazzup wit dat? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:58:00 -
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Ridgeway Semper Fi wrote:So from what Ive been reading this is basically the final build before release? If it is I can't see how this game is going to survive. I haven't played since BO2 came out, until last night. I thought and hoped maybe perhaps they had improved some stuff on this game. Only to find it's gotten infinitely worse. What's up with the walls on top of the buildings? I mean why have snipers if you aren't going to let them snipe? It seems passive SP is bugged or glitched because we aren't receiving any. Seems Ass Rifles have somehow managed to get stronger instead of being balanced with the other weapons. My friend managed to hit the SP cap in about 7 games. Did it changed to a daily SP cap or is he just bugged? I mean if this is the final build before release they need to scrap this piece of **** and start over from scratch. I know me and my friend both had such high hopes for this game because it has unbelievable potential to see it turn into a piece of ****.
Now, I know people are gonna disagree, most of those being people that run with Ass Rifles firing streams of bullets at people with no recoil from ******* way to far away. If you wanted everyone to use Ass Rifles why put all the other **** in the game.
Anyway, don't know how much Ill be playing. This game is gonna have to get a **** ton better before I make it my primary FPS. And from the looks of the server population alot of people feel the same. Take Care and Happy Assing. You cheap troll.
The matches i'm in i see shotties(shudder!), pistols, SMGs, HMGs, lazors(shudder!), knives, mass drivers(shudder!) and ARs. This tells me AR is not OP atm.
Almost always LAVs, HAVs and dropships too. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
50
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:59:00 -
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DonRodie wrote:They said the New build is going to be amesome with trees and what not....
Anyone got a link about this ^? |
VirtualxBucaneer
ROGUE SPADES
44
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Posted - 2013.01.24 23:02:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:DonRodie wrote:They said the New build is going to be amesome with trees and what not.... Anyone got a link about this ^?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52684
And also adding more capacity to the squad, with 6 players along with the PvE Mode. Maybe they will increase the cap of players in the battle.
The current build is far from being the commercial release. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In china or north korea you just signed your death certificate with those words.
In some nations its mandatory to be in your nation's military, for the sake of its own preservation.
And just about everywhere in the world, people are not going to hate you less just because you are wiser or more noble than your peers and will kill you all the same. The real ugly truth, once a bullet leaves a barrel it just doesn't care anymore who fired it or who it will hit.
I don't live in China or North Korea so why do I care that you can't criticize military glorification in those countries?
The USA isn't a nation whose military service is mandatory for the sake of its own preservation. In the US, people join vountarily because they want money or to shoot people or something. There's nothing respectable about it, and for that other guy to act as though it's something that ought to be respected is a joke.
Breakin Stuff wrote:Shut up. no one loves you. I already told my fellow jarhead he is a failhard.
Don't need you pontificating about how americans are sick and stupid. You also fail forever for being a naive, loud, and ignorant cuss who believes that military service is shameful. Go back to your hole and close the door. Don't come back out without a shower.
I didn't say Americans are sick and stupid. You either didn't read or didn't comprehend my post. |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:45:00 -
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From what ive seen Dust has had a steady improvement since beta opened. Yes CCP have gone back and forth a bit with mods, weapons, content, etc. however thats what... you ... do... to get things right.
Overall, game play is better (you can actually aim now), weapons, mods etc are steadily getting more balanced. Graphics and sounds are improving, Maps are changing almost daily (COD certainly cant compete with that)
AND the MAIN reason i love this game... you cant use a god damn sniper rifle as a shotgun!!!!!! |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:04:00 -
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There is no final build. There is only the next stage of the game. CCP will never stop developing this game same way they never stopped developing EVE with free expansions and improvements across the board in every corner of the game. If you are too used to getting DLCs and purchasing "v2" of the game every year for $60 you won't get that here. Every expansion in DUST will be free to everyone and every upgrade to the game everyone will be able to experience. It is your decision if you want to support them by purchasing AUR and make them continue developing this game for a long long time. |
GR1NCH
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:15:00 -
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fivetimes i think your a little confused , and slightly offensive, as an ex member of her majesty's armed service i would like to clarify that at no time did i or any member of her majesty's armed forces . join for financial gain or to take human life , if anything war is always the final choice and not taken lightly. it is not often that i respond to post on the forum but thought you needed educating . , my personal reasons for joining were career based .
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:22:00 -
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Its not the final build. Loads of threads on speculation, rumours and facts about next build.
Trees Grass Squad and pop increases to warzones. New weapons. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:31:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Its not the final build. Loads of threads on speculation, rumours and facts about next build.
Trees Grass Squad and pop increases to warzones. New weapons.
48 players confirmed as well with the vegetation and the weapons. Drones also (as shown by the new trailer) |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:38:00 -
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Drones would be nice, but they were in the last trailer too. The way of the merc trailer showed the big drones briefly.
All the additions are worth looking forward to, I want scrambler rifle and flaylock. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.25 11:44:00 -
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And this unannounced Caldari gun http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/8405809671/sizes/l/ |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:15:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Ridgeway Semper Fi wrote:So from what Ive been reading this is basically the final build before release? If it is I can't see how this game is going to survive. I haven't played since BO2 came out, until last night. I thought and hoped maybe perhaps they had improved some stuff on this game. Only to find it's gotten infinitely worse. What's up with the walls on top of the buildings? I mean why have snipers if you aren't going to let them snipe? It seems passive SP is bugged or glitched because we aren't receiving any. Seems Ass Rifles have somehow managed to get stronger instead of being balanced with the other weapons. My friend managed to hit the SP cap in about 7 games. Did it changed to a daily SP cap or is he just bugged? I mean if this is the final build before release they need to scrap this piece of **** and start over from scratch. I know me and my friend both had such high hopes for this game because it has unbelievable potential to see it turn into a piece of ****.
Now, I know people are gonna disagree, most of those being people that run with Ass Rifles firing streams of bullets at people with no recoil from ******* way to far away. If you wanted everyone to use Ass Rifles why put all the other **** in the game.
Anyway, don't know how much Ill be playing. This game is gonna have to get a **** ton better before I make it my primary FPS. And from the looks of the server population alot of people feel the same. Take Care and Happy Assing. You cheap troll. The matches i'm in i see shotties( shudder!), pistols, SMGs, HMGs, lazors( shudder!), knives, mass drivers( shudder!) and ARs. This tells me AR is not OP atm. Almost always LAVs, HAVs and dropships too. Exactly. I'm getting killed and seeing kills from all weapons now. Dropships are even becoming more regular again with some great pilots in them. The options are all being use. |
tyn ftw
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.25 12:18:00 -
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this is just the open beta , i think CCP will keep on improving the game . |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.01.25 13:12:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote: Nobody other than Americans gives a **** about that, and even then for people to glorify their country's military is always a sign of sickness. It's our collective shame that our nations require a military in the first place.
Shut up. no one loves you. I already told my fellow jarhead he is a failhard. Don't need you pontificating about how americans are sick and stupid. You also fail forever for being a naive, loud, and ignorant cuss who believes that military service is shameful. Go back to your hole and close the door. Don't come back out without a shower. I swear I hear the voice of Robet Anson Heinlein. =) |
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Trevak Shi
Nephilim Fedaykin
38
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:58:00 -
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Twinkletoes Tittybottoms wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:lol.
1. You play Black Ops. lol
2. Of course its not the final build. The dude is a marine. Show respect.
What, just because you MAY BE a Marine, you should AUTOMATICALLY get respect?!?!? That is audacious. I know a lot of Marines, and only a few of them actually "deserve" respect. They are Squid tools! () |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.25 15:38:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:
I don't live in China or North Korea so why do I care that you can't criticize military glorification in those countries?
The USA isn't a nation whose military service is mandatory for the sake of its own preservation. In the US, people join vountarily because they want money or to shoot people or something. There's nothing respectable about it, and for that other guy to act as though it's something that ought to be respected is a joke.
Also its not military glorification they kill you for in china or n. korea, its being a traitor to that nation, individuality is illegal in those countries. While in japan, while individuality is undertone and counter to culture, its not illegal there to go explore being an individual.
Military paychecks are a joke. Also we kick out people who are too eager to kill people, they make horrible soldiers because they don't follow orders. Those !@#$#$^# wind up in blackwater mercs or something worse.
Secondly you have an extraordinarily poor understanding for military structure or purpose. Takes about 30 people to make sure the guy on the front line is able 'kill' some one. Not everyone in the military is killing people either some are just store keepers, truck drivers, construction, doctors, medics, engineers, electricians, supply, mechanics. As for function of the military its rather critical and poorly understood by civilians to the point its a waste of time explaining. World suffering at the hands of awful people is at an all time high and there isn't enough strong willed good in the world to counter it. Don't believe me? Google modern piracy in South Asia and how horrible those people are. I am glad that all international militaries that patrol the area have no love for those guys. There are many things charity and good intentions won't fix.
Finally, your right, just because they're a soldier, a civilian, or Steve Jobs doesn't mean auto respect, however in your case its no excuse for auto disrespect either. People have a right to prove themselves worthy of respect.
And finally why in the heck are you playing Dust 514 or Eve Online? This is by far the most 'anti-liberal' game in existence as raw face of humanity is clearly present. |
Mortes Astarte
Aideron Robotics
2
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:31:00 -
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I have chosen to answer the OP question with an image: http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i57/5/7/2/frabz-THIS-ISNT-EVEN-MY-FINAL-FORM-4a1803.jpg |
Barnabas Wrex
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
148
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:50:00 -
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First of all: Thank you for your service.
Second of all: you are about to play a beta, accept?
Third of all: All you little twerps need to stop being hipster idiots. Our military is the reason you're not wearing a bar code and speaking German right now. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:00:00 -
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Barnabas Wrex wrote:First of all: Thank you for your service.
Second of all: you are about to play a beta, accept?
Third of all: All you little twerps need to stop being hipster idiots. Our military is the reason you're not wearing a bar code and speaking German right now.
Was ist falsch mit dem Sprechen Deutsch? |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:07:00 -
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Well, this thread is going places.
Back to topic, CCP have mentioned that they want to be able to add, update, and remove content from the market on the fly. THe market will be dynamic and organic, I would assume, much more like a living breathing market (which is what our militaries primarily have fought in the service of during the last century) than an edifice where content is permanent and immutable.
In the future there very well may be items that show up in the market for a limited time and are quickly taken away.
However, the hope is that once a player buys something like that they can keep it, use it, horde it, or re-sell it, immediately or at a later date for cold hard profit.
If the game becomes what we have been invited to hope for, the market will always be changing. And it will be up to us to survive its ebbs and flow, or seek to control them.
One way CCP can balance the items in game in the future would be to, instead of tweaking how a particular weapon deals damage, just take it off the market. Make a new version that sucks, and release that with a new name. Players who had purchased the original would have an advantage, but the item would become so rare if it was consumable that it might not ever be used outside tournaments, important battles in important wars, etc. So it wouldn't be used by scrubs to hold an advantage over other players.
I hope this kind of thing does take place. I am looking forward to the next few years in DUST with much anticipation.
But yeah, right now we have a long ways to go still. The great thing is, we will never reach the end, there will always be something new just around the corner. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:13:00 -
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1. Not the final build. There will be new builds for the next 10 years.
2. Things will be added over the next 10 years.
3. CCP has a 10-year plan for Dust.
4. Train up Patience Skill Book to Level 3. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:1. Not the final build. There will be new builds for the next 10 years.
2. Things will be added over the next 10 years.
3. CCP has a 10-year plan for Dust.
4. Train up Patience Skill Book to Level 3. shame the PS3 isn't going to last that long. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:19:00 -
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Aighun wrote:One way CCP can balance the items in game in the future would be to, instead of tweaking how a particular weapon deals damage, just take it off the market. Make a new version that sucks, and release that with a new name. Players who had purchased the original would have an advantage, but the item would become so rare if it was consumable that it might not ever be used outside tournaments, important battles in important wars, etc. So it wouldn't be used by scrubs to hold an advantage over other players.
I hope this kind of thing does take place. I am looking forward to the next few years in DUST with much anticipation.
But yeah, right now we have a long ways to go still. The great thing is, we will never reach the end, there will always be something new just around the corner.
You are assuming that the stuff on the market will not eventually be produced by the players in a player-controlled market. Just like Eve Online, eventually almost every item on the market will not only be consumable but also produced by players.
This means that those players will decide the price of the items and thus jack them up if they like. But due to the competitive nature of open markets in a player-controlled environment (as seen on Eve) other players can choose to undercut the sellers to attract the buyer's attention thus cutting into the profits of others.
CCP is not known for pulling items off the market once the market is under player control and said items can be produced by everyone who has spare time. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:21:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:1. Not the final build. There will be new builds for the next 10 years.
2. Things will be added over the next 10 years.
3. CCP has a 10-year plan for Dust.
4. Train up Patience Skill Book to Level 3. shame the PS3 isn't going to last that long.
CCP said they won't have a problem porting it over to the PS4. They also said they will maintain support for the PS3 version. This was mentioned multiple times on Eurogamer, Ten Ton Hammer, Playstation Network Blogs, etc. |
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