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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.15 08:17:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:the most incoherent kittening wall of kitten text rant I have seen in God only knows how long.
And i can't find an argument for it. +1. Quit nerfing the damned weapons. make people think about WTF they are trying to pull off.
Damned lemmings... |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.15 08:19:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:^attention grabbing, isn't it?
Guys, for the love of New Eden, stop whining about the weapon power or range or etc! AV is MEANT TO BLOW UP YOUR TANK Lasers ARE MEANT TO CUT YOU TO ITTY BITTY PITTIES AR is MEANT TO BE A GUN FOR EVERY SITUATION Pistols ARE ALWAYS FRAKING POWERFULL Mass Driver. It shoots a grenade. In you face. Need i say more?! Tank. ITS A TANK! OF COURSE IT KILLS YOU. Spec into AV if that bothers you. Not enough people do anyways. LAV. You got run over? Well, there is this great thing called running away. Instead of charging it maybe? Look it up sometime. HMG. It is a freaking heavy. machine. gun. It kills you. Duh! How about cover, no? Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it. Sniper. Don't even start. SMG. Nothing yet. Oh wait, you bozos screwed that gun over sevral builds ago. OB. Its too powerful. Well, giant laz0rs from the sky should just bounce off my shields? Right. Swarm Launcher. Scrubbed out ages ago. BECAUSE OF WHINING, Forge Gun. Jeez, just look at the stats and read the description. Do you expect to live when getting hit by it?!
Future Prediction: THIS GUN IS OP. NERF IT SO I DUN DIE NO MORE. THAT VE-HICLE KILLED ME. UNFAIR. WAHHHH And so on.
Guys, look. Weapons are specialized, and they should be. Especially in Dust. Teamwork is the key. Hence, if you can;t stop the tank, get your AV buddy to do it instead. You got sniped? Logibro is there for you. The point is that you are taking advantage of CCP's wonderful interaction with us. Never has any game had this good of DEV support. Don't ruin it. If something bothers you, don't scream about it. Talk it our, discuss it here, and then post something legitimate to the DEVs.
Too much has been ruined already. Grow a pair, and take it like a man. You're a merc, blast it! Act like one.
I didn't even notice the coro untill after I fell in love.
07
Zion TCD! |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.15 08:23:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:2 sec grenade timers are OP! In my opinion that should be the timer for prototype gernades. Just how the old school Remote mines where nerfed but moved to prototype level.
I can't wait to show off that I've put all my points into a skill to make it a useful Over powered weapon. That's the point, that's dust. Have you seen officer gear? Dust is meant to have an end game where every one is overpowered and either dying in one hit or sniping crazy fast, or using remote that blow up in one second while they run at 13.5 sprint speed. javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');} Listen, dust is going to get crazy as we giant skill points up to 15-20 million sp. And keep in mind tat by the time we hit that there will be gaint mechs and fighter jets. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.15 09:10:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:... HARDEN THE F*** UP ... there ya go cleaned it up for you |
Enkidu Camuel
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
69
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Posted - 2013.01.15 09:23:00 -
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I'm affraid to tell you this OP but... in open beta...
BRACE YOURSELVES, INCOMING "NERF THIS THING QQ" THREADS BY NEW PLAYERS ARE COMMING! |
Mister0Zz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
31
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Posted - 2013.01.15 10:12:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Umadbro? Nah, i just want for the puny whiners and idiots to stop ruining everything for the rest of us. Its more a feeling of....you know when you hear a mosquito but can't kill it? Yeah, that.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.01.15 10:15:00 -
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If you think the whining is bad now, wait till open beta. It'll go up exponentially, and another magnitude or two with release.
Make sure your H, T, F and U keys work, otherwise everything will get nerfed to oblivion like in too many games where the devs blidnly act upon forum whiners. |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
76
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Posted - 2013.01.15 11:33:00 -
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Dust's motto should be "Adapt or prepare to die.. Alot". At the moment it's "Adapt or run to CCP and whine". |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2013.01.15 11:44:00 -
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Enkidu Camuel wrote:I'm affraid to tell you this OP but... in open beta...
BRACE YOURSELVES, INCOMING "NERF THIS THING QQ" THREADS BY NEW PLAYERS ARE COMMING! Well, f**k... |
Akira Regendorf
Conspiratus Immortalis
18
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Posted - 2013.01.15 11:51:00 -
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LOL somebody got fed up wih it before I did?!? I cant believe it we have discovered inteligent life!! Seriously, gonna sound like a broken record but it needs to be said: HARDEN THE KITTEN UP!! (wow tht sounds way more awkward than I thought)
Sometimes I don't think people understand what balance in a game really means. Balance doesnt mean that me in my awsome litle assault suit running around with my awsome little assault rifle can go head on with a friggin HMG weilding heavy. Balance means everything has a counter, you wanna take out a heavy, gang up on him with your buddies, he is slow as kitten so easily flanked DUH. Almost all of the complaining I see/hear is because people arent useing the right stratagies for the situtaion they find themselves in. I have yet to get into a situtaion that I couldnt see a way to counter either right then or next time it happens(lets face it sometimes you just arent prepared for that heavy around the corner) through alternate tactics, strategizing, or just general use of higher level thought processes. If you can't figure out a way to counter that tank or jerk pummleing you with a mass driver, then in my opinion you deserve to get youre butthole forcibly imploded by it.
CCP has done a frigging amazeing job in giving us a huge variety of tools that enable many different aproaches to any given situation, friggin learn to use them dammit! if you wanna play a game were every thing is all the same go play CoD!! I love this game because its not CoD, because I can choose to play it my way, wich is different from Jack or Bill or Sue's way of playing it. I seriously hope the pissin and moanin of a bunch of uncreative low thought procces imbeciles doesnt end up ruining what I love most about this game.
*phew* that was quite the rant, I just wanted to throw my two cents in there and give this topic another bump up cuz I think it's important. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2013.01.15 11:57:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote: Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it.
Probably the only thing where you're totally wrong. It's not like nades didnt blow up or were never used in codex and before. But you wont ever gonna make me accept noobish tricks like 2 sec blowing up nades. The revenge part ? LOOL ! Want revenge ? Well respawn and kill the guy.
The whole "take you with me in the grave" deal is a pain in the ass in EVERY fps. So in a game where every death actually cost you, it's a cheap mechanics to please scrubs.
Regarding the rest of your .... thing.. I'll just say ok, but it's not that simple. Some of the thing you described arent actually valid.
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Atomic Shiver
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
6
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Posted - 2013.01.15 12:10:00 -
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GREAT STUFF! best thing ive read all morning had me rolling. 1 like from me |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
203
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Posted - 2013.01.15 13:11:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:On the sniping note: try looking for the general direction they sniped you from, before spawn open your map and take a guess where they are holed up. There is most likely a way to get where they sit, I don't believe a sniper would call a dropship just to get to the top of the highest building without ladders. Anyway, once you think you figured it out, put on your rogue suit and go hunt some snipers! Seriously, I managed to pull that off in Manus Peak today - took out two snipers that were sitting on that mountain on the right side.
Only two? N00b.
No, seriously, you are totally correct.
I keep telling people that it's not hard to deal with snipers if you do it smartly. Thank you for being another voice of sanity around the "snipers are hiding" whinefest. |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
203
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Posted - 2013.01.15 13:19:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Rayan Storm wrote: Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it.
The revenge part ? LOOL ! Want revenge ? Well respawn and kill the guy. The whole "take you with me in the grave" deal is a pain in the ass in EVERY fps.
Well, considering that you have to be throwing the grenade about half a second before you die, otherwise it doesn't actually happen...
The fact is that when I grenade someone in death, I was actually trying to kill them BEFORE I died, but they popped me as I was chucking the grenade.
So, no problem here. I have to agree with Rayan and CCP:
HTFU |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2013.01.15 13:25:00 -
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Lol i seriously dont get why they thought mass drivers was op i mean it shoots freaking grenades not paper balls or rocks |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.01.15 14:52:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:"Rock is overpowered, paper is fine." -Scissors
Hahah, can't stand how many whinny cry babies with illagitamate complaints this forum has. The only thing worse is how CCP goes about handling it.
Damn it CCP, get your **** together. *not sarcasm*
+10 to OP |
Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:If you ask me, the sniper rifles (being handheld railguns) should have vastly increased ranges. They should have no problem hitting targets upto 1km away (I'm talking Militia here too). Snipers shouldn't need to worry about range until the maps are made much much larger.
Zoom the whole way out on the overview map in skirmish next time you get the chance. There is a huge amount of unused space available. Once we are using the whole map to its fullest potential, then we should be worrying about sniper ranges.
IDK, I know that this is the exact opposite of what many people are calling for, but it just makes sense to me. If we are using railguns for sniper rifles we should be able to get the ridiculous range that railguns are capable of.
On the maps as they are currently, there shouldn't be anywhere (given line of sight) that can't be touched by a skilled sniper with even a basic militia railgun in their hands.
There have been several times where I have swapped to a counter-sniper fit and still couldn't hit the target (despite knowing their name, what dropsuit they were wearing and having a red dot in my reticle). This makes no sense to me.
EDIT: Sorry, but reading don't even start made me think of all of the things I think are wrong with sniper rifles. I hate snipers but I agree with you 100% |
Frank Devine
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:05:00 -
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Rayan Storm wrote:^attention grabbing, isn't it?
Guys, for the love of New Eden, stop whining about the weapon power or range or etc! AV is MEANT TO BLOW UP YOUR TANK Lasers ARE MEANT TO CUT YOU TO ITTY BITTY PITTIES AR is MEANT TO BE A GUN FOR EVERY SITUATION Pistols ARE ALWAYS FRAKING POWERFULL Mass Driver. It shoots a grenade. In you face. Need i say more?! Tank. ITS A TANK! OF COURSE IT KILLS YOU. Spec into AV if that bothers you. Not enough people do anyways. LAV. You got run over? Well, there is this great thing called running away. Instead of charging it maybe? Look it up sometime. HMG. It is a freaking heavy. machine. gun. It kills you. Duh! How about cover, no? Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it. Sniper. Don't even start. SMG. Nothing yet. Oh wait, you bozos screwed that gun over sevral builds ago. OB. Its too powerful. Well, giant laz0rs from the sky should just bounce off my shields? Right. Swarm Launcher. Scrubbed out ages ago. BECAUSE OF WHINING, Forge Gun. Jeez, just look at the stats and read the description. Do you expect to live when getting hit by it?!
Future Prediction: THIS GUN IS OP. NERF IT SO I DUN DIE NO MORE. THAT VE-HICLE KILLED ME. UNFAIR. WAHHHH And so on.
Guys, look. Weapons are specialized, and they should be. Especially in Dust. Teamwork is the key. Hence, if you can;t stop the tank, get your AV buddy to do it instead. You got sniped? Logibro is there for you. The point is that you are taking advantage of CCP's wonderful interaction with us. Never has any game had this good of DEV support. Don't ruin it. If something bothers you, don't scream about it. Talk it our, discuss it here, and then post something legitimate to the DEVs.
Too much has been ruined already. Grow a pair, and take it like a man. You're a merc, blast it! Act like one. Well said and my fear is that when all the COD noobs come in a few days the whining is going to be out of control, I just hope that CCP does not listen to all the bs about nerfing this and that just because someone does not know how to take cover. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:26:00 -
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i agree with the op but unfortunately everything's going to get nerfed that these lil btches whine about.. CCP will end up caving into them, there is no hope. paintball in outer space with the occasional fatality is coming soon where 12 kills a match will be considered phenomenal |
Akira Regendorf
Conspiratus Immortalis
18
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:00:00 -
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And an additional problem wich is mentioned in some one else's thread is the manner in wich CCP goes about handling the nerfing. Allot of the stuff that has bin nerfed really did need some tweaking, but that's it, just some tweaks, instead they nerfed it strait to the absolutely useless gear pile |
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Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:43:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:[quote=Rayan Storm]^attention grabbing, isn't it? Guys, for the love of New Eden, stop whining about the weapon power or range or etc! AV is MEANT TO BLOW UP YOUR TANK Lasers ARE MEANT TO CUT YOU TO ITTY BITTY PITTIES AR is MEANT TO BE A GUN FOR EVERY SITUATION Pistols ARE ALWAYS FRAKING POWERFULL Mass Driver. It shoots a grenade. In you face. Need i say more?! Tank. ITS A TANK! OF COURSE IT KILLS YOU. Spec into AV if that bothers you. Not enough people do anyways. LAV. You got run over? Well, there is this great thing called running away. Instead of charging it maybe? Look it up sometime. HMG. It is a freaking heavy. machine. gun. It kills you. Duh! How about cover, no? Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it.............. Didn't want to quote entire post, but WELL SAID bro. Took the words literally right outta my head
Thanks! *bow |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:46:00 -
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crazy space 2100046106 wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:^attention grabbing, isn't it?
Guys, for the love of New Eden, stop whining about the weapon power or range or etc! AV is MEANT TO BLOW UP YOUR TANK Lasers ARE MEANT TO CUT YOU TO ITTY BITTY PITTIES AR is MEANT TO BE A GUN FOR EVERY SITUATION Pistols ARE ALWAYS FRAKING POWERFULL Mass Driver. It shoots a grenade. In you face. Need i say more?! Tank. ITS A TANK! OF COURSE IT KILLS YOU. Spec into AV if that bothers you. Not enough people do anyways. LAV. You got run over? Well, there is this great thing called running away. Instead of charging it maybe? Look it up sometime. HMG. It is a freaking heavy. machine. gun. It kills you. Duh! How about cover, no? Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it. Sniper. Don't even start. SMG. Nothing yet. Oh wait, you bozos screwed that gun over sevral builds ago. OB. Its too powerful. Well, giant laz0rs from the sky should just bounce off my shields? Right. Swarm Launcher. Scrubbed out ages ago. BECAUSE OF WHINING, Forge Gun. Jeez, just look at the stats and read the description. Do you expect to live when getting hit by it?!
Future Prediction: THIS GUN IS OP. NERF IT SO I DUN DIE NO MORE. THAT VE-HICLE KILLED ME. UNFAIR. WAHHHH And so on.
Guys, look. Weapons are specialized, and they should be. Especially in Dust. Teamwork is the key. Hence, if you can;t stop the tank, get your AV buddy to do it instead. You got sniped? Logibro is there for you. The point is that you are taking advantage of CCP's wonderful interaction with us. Never has any game had this good of DEV support. Don't ruin it. If something bothers you, don't scream about it. Talk it our, discuss it here, and then post something legitimate to the DEVs.
Too much has been ruined already. Grow a pair, and take it like a man. You're a merc, blast it! Act like one. I didn't even notice the coro untill after I fell in love. 07 Zion TCD!
Love you too bro, hahahaha. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:47:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:... HARDEN THE F*** UP ... there ya go cleaned it up for you
Thats like the second post ive seen that quotes me and i never said that. Really made me double take, bahahaha +1 for accuracy, or rather, inaccuracy :D |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:51:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Rayan Storm wrote: Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it.
Probably the only thing where you're totally wrong. It's not like nades didnt blow up or were never used in codex and before. But you wont ever gonna make me accept noobish tricks like 2 sec blowing up nades. The revenge part ? LOOL ! Want revenge ? Well respawn and kill the guy. The whole "take you with me in the grave" deal is a pain in the ass in EVERY fps. So in a game where every death actually cost you, it's a cheap mechanics to please scrubs. Regarding the rest of your .... thing.. I'll just say ok, but it's not that simple. Some of the thing you described arent actually valid.
Okay, i'll give you that much. But my entire point is just for people to stop complaining and provide REAL input, not this is OP, that is OP, EVERYTHING IS OP. ^that isn't input. It is whining. But i see your point. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:51:00 -
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Mister0Zz wrote:Rayan Storm wrote:Foley Jones wrote:Umadbro? Nah, i just want for the puny whiners and idiots to stop ruining everything for the rest of us. Its more a feeling of....you know when you hear a mosquito but can't kill it? Yeah, that. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH
Is that the sound of realization, burn or release after constipation? |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:52:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:If you think the whining is bad now, wait till open beta. It'll go up exponentially, and another magnitude or two with release.
Make sure your H, T, F and U keys work, otherwise everything will get nerfed to oblivion like in too many games where the devs blidnly act upon forum whiners.
Yup. Sadly, you are quite right there. Quite right. |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:54:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:i agree with the op but unfortunately everything's going to get nerfed that these lil btches whine about.. CCP will end up caving into them, there is no hope. paintball in outer space with the occasional fatality is coming soon where 12 kills a match will be considered phenomenal
Ugh. That sounds terrible. I prefer my 25 kills, thank you very much! |
Frodaris Sortana 2100058545
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
43
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:59:00 -
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We seriously need some kind of Dust Manual that describes valid tactics and strategies for every weapon, vehicle, and gear in the game, including the maps and gamemodes. It has to be detailed and well organized, as well as easy enough for any fps gamer to read and gain some knowledge from it.
Do it, I say! DO IT! :D |
Rayan Storm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
358
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:05:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:We seriously need some kind of Dust Manual that describes valid tactics and strategies for every weapon, vehicle, and gear in the game, including the maps and gamemodes. It has to be detailed and well organized, as well as easy enough for any fps gamer to read and gain some knowledge from it.
Do it, I say! DO IT! :D
Hmm. Maybe us Zionites should team up with another corp and write it up!
I am betterat essays or stories. You want an essay about the economic situation in Dust? Sure, i am in school for a reason. You want a short story glorifying our corporation? Gladly! You want a training manual? At least dedicate it to me. I ain't gonna write it though, hahahha. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:49:00 -
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Dust needed to be released and well under way before the nerf/buffs began. How can you balance a game with so many unknowns atm? Let's see how it all works together first. |
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