Umadbro?

well said !!

If you ask me, the sniper rifles (being handheld railguns) should have vastly increased ranges. They should have no problem hitting targets upto 1km away (I'm talking Militia here too). Snipers shouldn't need to worry about range until the maps are made much much larger.

Zoom the whole way out on the overview map in skirmish next time you get the chance. There is a huge amount of unused space available. Once we are using the whole map to its fullest potential, then we should be worrying about sniper ranges.

IDK, I know that this is the exact opposite of what many people are calling for, but it just makes sense to me. If we are using railguns for sniper rifles we should be able to get the ridiculous range that railguns are capable of.

On the maps as they are currently, there shouldn't be anywhere (given line of sight) that can't be touched by a skilled sniper with even a basic militia railgun in their hands.

There have been several times where I have swapped to a counter-sniper fit and still couldn't hit the target (despite knowing their name, what dropsuit they were wearing and having a red dot in my reticle). This makes no sense to me.

EDIT: Sorry, but reading don't even start made me think of all of the things I think are wrong with sniper rifles.

I'm gonna keep posting this anywhere where OP or UP is mentioned.

Dust Revelation 1:1

"Rock is overpowered, paper is fine."
-Scissors

Nah, i just want for the puny whiners and idiots to stop ruining everything for the rest of us.
Its more a feeling of....you know when you hear a mosquito but can't kill it?
Yeah, that.

Yeah in all seriousness though (iM BORED AS F***) I agree so +1...I hate the complaining but only really its aimed at the sp cap because people are to naive to relize its important but...oh well noobs will be noobs...no hard feelings for trolling you btw

^attention grabbing, isn't it?

Guys, for the love of New Eden, stop whining about the weapon power or range or etc!
AV is MEANT TO BLOW UP YOUR TANK
Lasers ARE MEANT TO CUT YOU TO ITTY BITTY PITTIES
AR is MEANT TO BE A GUN FOR EVERY SITUATION
Pistols ARE ALWAYS FRAKING POWERFULL
Mass Driver. It shoots a grenade. In you face. Need i say more?!
Tank. ITS A TANK! OF COURSE IT KILLS YOU. Spec into AV if that bothers you. Not enough people do anyways.
LAV. You got run over? Well, there is this great thing called running away. Instead of charging it maybe? Look it up sometime.
HMG. It is a freaking heavy. machine. gun. It kills you. Duh! How about cover, no?
Grenade. He threw one at you as he died? NO DIP SHERLOCK. Everyone does it. It is called revenge. And fun. Besides, a grenade is meant to explode and kill you. At least that is why i was told. You guys want a bloody hug from it.
Sniper. Don't even start.
SMG. Nothing yet. Oh wait, you bozos screwed that gun over sevral builds ago.
OB. Its too powerful. Well, giant laz0rs from the sky should just bounce off my shields? Right.
Swarm Launcher. Scrubbed out ages ago. BECAUSE OF WHINING,
Forge Gun. Jeez, just look at the stats and read the description. Do you expect to live when getting hit by it?!

Future Prediction:
THIS GUN IS OP. NERF IT SO I DUN DIE NO MORE.
THAT VE-HICLE KILLED ME. UNFAIR. WAHHHH
And so on.



Guys, look. Weapons are specialized, and they should be. Especially in Dust. Teamwork is the key. Hence, if you can;t stop the tank, get your AV buddy to do it instead. You got sniped? Logibro is there for you.
The point is that you are taking advantage of CCP's wonderful interaction with us. Never has any game had this good of DEV support. Don't ruin it. If something bothers you, don't scream about it. Talk it our, discuss it here, and then post something legitimate to the DEVs.

Too much has been ruined already. Grow a pair, and take it like a man.
You're a merc, blast it! Act like one.

Quoted for truth. +1

On the sniping note: try looking for the general direction they sniped you from, before spawn open your map and take a guess where they are holed up. There is most likely a way to get where they sit, I don't believe a sniper would call a dropship just to get to the top of the highest building without ladders. Anyway, once you think you figured it out, put on your rogue suit and go hunt some snipers!

Seriously, I managed to pull that off in Manus Peak today - took out two snipers that were sitting on that mountain on the right side.

^Now that is how you fix some sniper issues! Nothing like taking a sniper out from behind.... XD

^Now that is how you fix some sniper issues! Nothing like taking a sniper out from behind.... XD

Bahahahaha. Nice! That terrible moment when you jump and your inertial shield or such doesnt turn on. ANd from the MCC to the ground you go....

Bahahahaha. Nice! That terrible moment when you jump and your inertial shield or such doesnt turn on. ANd from the MCC to the ground you go....

Logic, glorious logic! "angelic chorus plays in the background".

To be fair, the grenades, forge guns, and the like can be a right pain in the kittens (I love that word).

Now that I think about, ALL of those weapons and such can be a pain in their own right, you just need to figure out how to best deal with each of them. (WARNING: Essay length post incoming, just so you know) :D

What should you do if you find someone who you know will spam grenades like its going out of style?

For starters, try flanking his potato masher loving buttocks when you are able. If you can't do that, then see if you can pick him off from a distance while keeping an eye out for that grenade indicator. The MOMENT you see that indicator appear, run away from it like you were Sonic the blasted Hedgehog! Better still, if you have a sniper on your team (preferably in your squad for communication's sake), tell him where that sucker is so that he can do the job for you.

AV grenades: If its near your tank, move away from it when you can to lower the damage if possible. If its UNDER your tank, then I don't know what to tell you other than leaving the vehicle asap. Looking for that indicator will help in both cases.

Lasers: These nasty pieces of Amarrian tech have quite the range to them, not to the level snipers mind you, but they are still pretty vicious at mid to long ranges. My advice to you folks is to either flank them when possible or snipe their heads off, since the sniper rifles should have more range then they do (going by common sense here, so correct me if I am wrong).

ARs: These guns are essentially the all-arounders that are meant to be useful for most infantry firefights, usually from close to mid-range if memory serves. From my experience, a combination of good aim and quick reactions will serve you well, as even having the best AR in New Eden won't do you any good if your aim is poor or your reaction time is slow.

Pistols: Basically the same advice as above applies for the most part, but do take note of the scrambler's shield damaging ability, as well as its tendency to scramble heads (mind the bad pun).

Mass Drivers: They are, from my understanding,a straight shot to whatever they are aimed at, including infantry. My best advice: Strafe, flank, and pray that the guy using an MD is not good at leaning their shots.

Tanks: Big, mean, heavily armed, and heavily armored/shielded. Avoid contact with one unless you have AVs or Mass Drivers and you know that you can take one out and live! If you see an enemy tank from a distance, regardless of your build, call it our to your teammates in any way you can, so that someone will try to take it out, even if you don't.

HMGs: Cover is your best friend for life, use it to flank the Heavy Weapons Guy wannabe or sniper their face off if you can.

SMG: Its been nerffed to heck, but it can be useful in close range when flanking tactics are used effectively (again, correct me if I am wrong).

OB: Powerful as all kittens, but it gives out a clear visual and audible warning prior to its attack, so be sure to run away when you see the pre-ob light show.

Swarm Launcher: Also nerfed, but I can see it being useful as a secondary AV weapon, especially when combined with forge guns and the like.

Forge Guns: Tank drivers should fear this thing, as its designed for Anti-Armor. If you spot a FG user, take him out fast before they can cause a rage-filled Youtube comment's worth of pain. Infantry are best suited for this, as they can flank and sneak up on the FG user and pepper him with bullets before they can fire a shot if they are quick enough.

For the sake of every Dust Bunny getting some good advice from this thread, please correct me on any bit of what I have just said. Preferably through the use of facts, because those work very well when it comes to showing how to deal with weapon types during a match.

Sorry if I made a double post, quick replay hates me. Also I did write this before the sniper range needing a buff was mentioned. If they need a buff, then so be it. If not, then its all good. :)

"Swarm Launcher. Scrubbed out ages ago. BECAUSE OF WHINING,"

So thats the reason it didn't work when I tried it on a tank or LAV... damn whiners

Might I suggest saving up on the ISK and SP through doing other things that you might be good at, such as inserting bullet A into clone B with an AR. At least until you have enough of both to set up a Swarm Launcher build that works as intended. :)

I'm gonna keep posting this anywhere where OP or UP is mentioned.

Dust Revelation 1:1

"Rock is overpowered, paper is fine."
-Scissors