DUST Search - Grenades

Government CheeseBurger wrote:

Free Beers wrote:

Government CheeseBurger wrote:

Just add this to the pile of other open treads this is already brought up in.

"The only thing over powered in Dust is team work and communication" Anon.

Edit ^^^ And Lamp posts!!!!

Look you can continue to post this **** in an attempt to seem witty or "hardcore" but it doesn't address the issue at hand. Only a few people refuse to acknowledge it because they are trying to look tough. You can't even troll properly let alone shoot a gun so I am just going to assume you are one of those that are overly dependent on this tatic to get kills.

Can someone show me the SiSi to TQ patch notes that says grenades got a buff? I can't find it. Ask yourself why now all the (corp name) are upset about this, at this time in conjunction with the reset. Is it effecting your KDR. Might be sharpshooter skills are low and CQC is more prevalent? I don't have the answer, there are to many to even start. But I can say this. The reset catalyzed the usage of more grenades. In time things will settle out as they did before. In the mean time I suggest you try new play styles and adapt. And stop the nerf threads. Unless its about lamp posts.

I am not that good at FPS and Team work gets me assists.

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Noraa Anderson Nox Aeterna Security 184	Posted - 2013.01.15 10:30:00 - [31] - Quote Make it so you can't throw grenades while being shot consecutively.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.15 10:39:00 - [32] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Every "gun" fight: Enemy? Toss grenade Toss grenade Toss grenade Ok, now use free shotgun to finish him off. broken mechanic is broken. Previous grenades were perfect. Agreed. i decided to spam every thread about nades as much as nades are spammed in the game. I seriously CCP goes back to the standard 5 sec fuse time very quickly.... Coz i can only imagine how worse it's gonna get with M1 nades, or the combination Flux\MD...... Runs, throws flux at feet that blows in 2 sec with 8m radius..... draws MD, aims at feet and kills lotadudes...... => Didnt aim even one second
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.01.15 11:01:00 - [33] - Quote Watching team mates and enemy's corpses fly through the air to militia grenades has provided several moments of hilarity for me. :)
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2013.01.15 11:40:00 - [34] - Quote What I can't figure out is why those reds keep trying to shoot me while standing right next to a grenade? It's almost like they didn't get the memo that I decided to deny them that area.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.01.15 11:54:00 - [35] - Quote Agreed. NadeSpam is getting old and detracting from the game. Please fix before open beta, CCP. Everything is fine except for the timer. Make cooking necessary for insta-nade kills. 3 Second default should be fine.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 165	Posted - 2013.01.15 12:12:00 - [36] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Oh no u got killed in a first person shooter? By a grenade? What's that now? the grenade blew up exactly as intended? Oh golly better nerf everything!!!!! Put as little effort into your trolling as into your gameplay I expect. +1 to the OP. The change to 2sec impact fuses has messed up so many games for me in Dust. Where I used to get killed by a grenade and think that that was a well executed throw and maybe cook, now it's just a joke. Yes, there is still skill in the throw but the real skill comes from having it explode at the perfectly timed moment. This has been the only change to the game so far that I'm in disagreement with. Bring back the 4sec user armed fuses.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.15 12:34:00 - [37] - Quote Someone arguing that 2 sec timer is fine is either a jerk or a troll. Try and look the internet for actual grenade timer. I didnt find any below 4 sec.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 155	Posted - 2013.01.15 12:47:00 - [38] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: What I can't figure out is why those reds keep trying to shoot me while standing right next to a grenade? It's almost like they didn't get the memo that I decided to deny them that area. This is an interesting point. When we scope in on someone (iron sights, mind you), up onto our HUD comes some very pretty information about the person and how easy the kill is going to be, not to mention their name so you know who you just killed so you can apologise to the grieving family. So why is there only a small icon above enemy grenades that is hardly visible instead of a giant blinking 'holy kitten there's a grenade to your left move the other way' sign on this amazing HUD interface.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.01.15 12:52:00 - [39] - Quote Fused locus grenades explode whenever they hit anything Milita can be bounced and dont blow up instantly
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2013.01.15 21:31:00 - [40] - Quote People are still QQ'ing about the grenades?!

BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 55	Posted - 2013.01.15 21:37:00 - [41] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: It could be worse. You should have been here earlier during the E3 build. Remote Explosives were all the rave. Or the swarm launchers before that.
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.01.16 00:35:00 - [42] - Quote BursegSardaukar wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: It could be worse. You should have been here earlier during the E3 build. Remote Explosives were all the rave. Or the swarm launchers before that. wait? swarm launchers were a thing? what more did i miss after the whole dropships and tanks where give out like candy thing?
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2013.01.16 00:57:00 - [43] - Quote Swarms could dumb-fire, and were pretty effective against infantry. HMG had the range and accuracy of a maxxed-out skillshooter AR, Heavies had more base HP than they do now, Remote Explosives could be thrown and insta detonated for an insta-kill against other players (this was before thukker grenades, and the current short-fuse grenades) our guns had optics, scouts could 1v4 heavies and assaults, etc, etc Those were the good ol' days.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.01.16 07:05:00 - [44] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Free Beers wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just add this to the pile of other open treads this is already brought up in. "The only thing over powered in Dust is team work and communication" Anon. Edit ^^^ And Lamp posts!!!! Look you can continue to post this **** in an attempt to seem witty or "hardcore" but it doesn't address the issue at hand. Only a few people refuse to acknowledge it because they are trying to look tough. You can't even troll properly let alone shoot a gun so I am just going to assume you are one of those that are overly dependent on this tatic to get kills. Can someone show me the SiSi to TQ patch notes that says grenades got a buff? I can't find it. Ask yourself why now all the (corp name) are upset about this, at this time in conjunction with the reset. Is it effecting your KDR. Might be sharpshooter skills are low and CQC is more prevalent? I don't have the answer, there are to many to even start. But I can say this. The reset catalyzed the usage of more grenades. In time things will settle out as they did before. In the mean time I suggest you try new play styles and adapt. And stop the nerf threads. Unless its about lamp posts. I am not that good at FPS and Team work gets me assists. troll, sorry but its true. if you had played last build and this you would see they now have a two second timer and that ridiculous throwing mechanic that begs to be abused. that is a major buff, even scouts have trouble getting out of the way of a grenade. OP is right, the bright side is that everyone is rocking them instead of AV nades so LAV drivers are stupid right now and every one secrambles to get out of the way when you throw any grenade.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 149	Posted - 2013.01.17 05:11:00 - [45] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Oh no u got killed in a first person shooter? By a grenade? What's that now? the grenade blew up exactly as intended? Oh golly better nerf everything!!!!! Lol bad troll 1/10 He knows!!! Act natural whistles
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 149	Posted - 2013.01.17 05:14:00 - [46] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Oh no u got killed in a first person shooter? By a grenade? What's that now? the grenade blew up exactly as intended? Oh golly better nerf everything!!!!! Put as little effort into your trolling as into your gameplay I expect. +1 to the OP. The change to 2sec impact fuses has messed up so many games for me in Dust. Where I used to get killed by a grenade and think that that was a well executed throw and maybe cook, now it's just a joke. Yes, there is still skill in the throw but the real skill comes from having it explode at the perfectly timed moment. This has been the only change to the game so far that I'm in disagreement with. Bring back the 4sec user armed fuses. Lol nah but in general i should really stay off the forums cuz i never sound as witty as id like but I don't see a problem with grenades people crying about a mechanic that works just fine and no I don't use grenades I haven't even bought any still using militia
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 100	Posted - 2013.01.17 05:16:00 - [47] - Quote Grenades are ridiculous. I find it more frustrating that all I ever get killed by is grenades, yet I cannot for the life of me seem to land a throw. If I do manage to get a hit marker, the guy walks out of it like it was just a rough night.
crazy space 2100046106 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.01.17 06:34:00 - [48] - Quote mikegunnz wrote: Swarms could dumb-fire, and were pretty effective against infantry. HMG had the range and accuracy of a maxxed-out skillshooter AR, Heavies had more base HP than they do now, Remote Explosives could be thrown and insta detonated for an insta-kill against other players (this was before thukker grenades, and the current short-fuse grenades) our guns had optics, scouts could 1v4 heavies and assaults, etc, etc Those were the good ol' days. Um... There are high damage dumbfire swarm launchers on the market, and the prototype remote mines have the old timer. That was just before remote mines had levels.
Kreayshawn Coruscanti Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 114	Posted - 2013.01.17 07:18:00 - [49] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Lol nah but in general i should really stay off the forums cuz i never sound as witty as id like but I don't see a problem with grenades people crying about a mechanic that works just fine and no I don't use grenades I haven't even bought any still using militia That's the point, genius.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 149	Posted - 2013.01.19 06:20:00 - [50] - Quote Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Lol nah but in general i should really stay off the forums cuz i never sound as witty as id like but I don't see a problem with grenades people crying about a mechanic that works just fine and no I don't use grenades I haven't even bought any still using militia That's the point, genius. Meaning I find them useless enough that I will not buy more because I hardly use the ones I have not that militia are good enough I don't need to upgrade

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2013.01.19 06:28:00 - [51] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just add this to the pile of other open treads this is already brought up in. "The only thing over powered in Dust is team work and communication" Anon. Edit ^^^ And Lamp posts!!!! Look you can continue to post this **** in an attempt to seem witty or "hardcore" but it doesn't address the issue at hand. Only a few people refuse to acknowledge it because they are trying to look tough. You can't even troll properly let alone shoot a gun so I am just going to assume you are one of those that are overly dependent on this tatic to get kills. umadbrah?
Kreayshawn Coruscanti Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 114	Posted - 2013.01.19 21:00:00 - [52] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Lol nah but in general i should really stay off the forums cuz i never sound as witty as id like but I don't see a problem with grenades people crying about a mechanic that works just fine and no I don't use grenades I haven't even bought any still using militia That's the point, genius. Meaning I find them useless enough that I will not buy more because I hardly use the ones I have not that militia are good enough I don't need to upgrade So what you're saying is It actually IS possible to still be bad with grenades in this current build? You deserve an award.
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.20 11:02:00 - [53] - Quote Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Lol nah but in general i should really stay off the forums cuz i never sound as witty as id like but I don't see a problem with grenades people crying about a mechanic that works just fine and no I don't use grenades I haven't even bought any still using militia That's the point, genius. Meaning I find them useless enough that I will not buy more because I hardly use the ones I have not that militia are good enough I don't need to upgrade So what you're saying is It actually IS possible to still be bad with grenades in this current build? You deserve an award. Lol yeah. I heard that later on fuse grenades (the ones that blow up on contact) will be able to be bought with isk. That sounds terrible, unless something about them is changed because they're.. just, ridiculous. It's annoying how right now you can only get them by buying a merc pack, the most ridiculous weapon in the game and it's obtainable only by AUR. A little bit of pay to win there IMHO, for now anyway. It'll be great when people can get the fuse grenades with isk, oh just lovely, I can only imagine how much I'll be swearing. :)
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 217	Posted - 2013.01.20 16:42:00 - [54] - Quote Dust is not a FPS it is now a FPT(first person thrower). People are confounding two different arguments. A confounder is a variable that masks the effect of the variable that you are attempting to analyse in case you don't know. Few if ANY people complain about grenade damage or radius, some may but MOST DO NOT. The variable in question the one that has made nades become the new FOTM is the 2 SEC TIMER(and IMO the nade physics--the way they skip). The moment they touch the ground they detonate in 2s, the physics compensate for a short throw by skipping and by the time the 2s are up the nade is even closer making it almost impossible to avoid(especially since you cant sprint backwards). Threads on the nades existed before the wipe and have been popping up ever since chromosome released where they specially note that nade detonates x seconds after contact unless cooked.(the x is 2s we know this now). This was likely done with regards to QQ over fused locus nades which blow up on impact(in fact those are actually worse than 2s nades because they arent forgiving on a poor throw). If you make a poor toss on the fused it blows up right away, if you make a poor toss on the regular locus nades they hop and blow up 2s later making them even more forgiving for unskilled players. The argument made by many isnt that nades should be reduced in damage or radius,(again some will make this argument in response to the nadespam but they dont consider the true variable that creates this current state of beta) Unequivocally it is the 2s timer for which grenades need to be changed. The timer MUST go back to 4-5s on contact with ground UNLESS COOKED. This reduces panic nading and forces players to develop SKILL IN NADE TOSSING. There is a difference. Edit- They also noted that thukkar locus nades were made available in market with chromosome but it is not there, so i wonder if this current iteration is what they want to do with the thukkar and are simply only making this one variation avaliable to us for data gathering purposes(fingers crossed).
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2013.01.20 17:14:00 - [55] - Quote OMG another Imperfect with another grenade thread.... totally called for! btw mine is here somewhere as well.... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=51549&find=unread
RO1MO69 Prima Gallicus 1	Posted - 2013.01.22 14:54:00 - [56] - Quote honestly, always did in every fps ever played... i mean it's the most common thing to throw a grenade when you'r covered then get out and shoot. I thinks grenades are perfect, maybe there's a problem with grenade spamming, but again it's common in every FPS so I can't understand why all this rage +1


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