DUST Search - FACTION WARFARE! Could be very one sided

R F Gyro wrote:

Beld Errmon wrote:

Faction warfare will always be poorly balanced simply because of the story backgrounds, who wants to be a religious zealot who owns slaves when you can be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks and the best pvp ships in the game.

You'd be surprised actually. The Amarr have always had less pilots than the Minmatar, but they are generally well organised. The minnies were a disorganised rabble, fighting each other almost as much as the enemy, in part because it attracts people who want to be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks.

Also, there's plenty of players/corps that ignore the back story altogether, and chose a faction based on which will give them the most fun. With lower skilled players flocking to successful factions, you often see smaller more experienced groups joining the other side and then fighting quite successfully while heavily outnumbered (giving "good fights").

Over the long term it seems to have been relatively well balanced.

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Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 00:59:00 - [1] - Quote On the 15th of Jan ZionTCD is Joining Gallente Faction Warfare on both EVE and DUST 514. So the Question is what side will you fight for or are you going for who ever pays. Gallente vs Caldari Amarr vs Minmatar Quote: Does the DUST 514 mercenary's corporation have to enroll in FW to accept these contracts? The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder) Link DUST FW Blog
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2013.01.10 01:00:00 - [2] - Quote Are we going into faction warfare right from the start of open beta? and gallente ftw
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2013.01.10 01:01:00 - [3] - Quote NPC contracts atm so no one is actually payin same system like we using now lol
Jesse Jayne ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.10 01:33:00 - [4] - Quote Should be interesting in the coming weeks to see where certain corps decide for faction warfare.
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2013.01.10 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote As far as I know all of ROFL is already in Gallente. But if everyone is going Gallente I may have to vote for a move so we have people to fight
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.01.10 02:52:00 - [6] - Quote Crush the Caldari bastards! They deserve nothing!
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 03:31:00 - [7] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: NPC contracts atm so no one is actually payin same system like we using now lol We are being payed to our EVE side to take NPC Contracts that are linked to target system of our FW Ally's.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 383	Posted - 2013.01.10 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Crush the Caldari bastards! They deserve nothing! Join us, together we'll obliterate luminaire
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.01.10 03:50:00 - [9] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: NPC contracts atm so no one is actually payin same system like we using now lol We are being payed to our EVE side to take NPC Contracts that are linked to target system of our FW Ally's. If our EVE side takes 'donations' for taking NPC FW contracts, is that ISK accesible in DUST? Is the DUST wallet separate from the EVE wallet? If not, what mechanic is CCP going to use to prevent internal ISK transfers? P.S. Going Gallente, and ALLLLL those Ammar-dominated FW systems. A Matari merc's dream come true.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:46:00 - [10] - Quote I was just wondering about this. As far as eve is concerned a Dust corp is an Eve corp is a Dust corp...there's no distinction. In fact, the Subdreddit guys will be joining a corp tomorrow that was created over 8 months ago in eve. They must have some kind special wallet in the corporation assets for isk generated within Dust, which is the only wallet a director in Dust can access for distrubuting isk to mercs. Without that there would be no way to prevent transfer between the games. Now....what this might mean is that you can still accept isk from eve, but you have to spend it within eve. For example, buying destroyers for orbital support or paying faction warfare corps to provide support.

Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 07:34:00 - [11] - Quote Quote: So, for this first release, any ISK transfer between EVE and DUST characters will be blocked. This will then be replaced by a taxable transfer mechanism with the intention of easing the currency control to 0% and removing it entirely once we are happy the economies have reached an equilibrium. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74180 This means there will be Two wallet types in Corp (Eve & Dust sides) in the case of ZionTCD a division in our EVE wallet will be made to save Dust related funds that will be distributed to Dust Mercs once the ability is granted. I will be speaking with CMDR WANG on Saturday about Corp UI changes to come. The Interview will be out on iTunes short after along with a blog by me to go with.
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2013.01.10 08:05:00 - [12] - Quote really one of the bigger corps going to jump in with the side that is already winning FW? well that's typical.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 08:10:00 - [13] - Quote Daalzebul Del'Armgo wrote: really one of the bigger corps going to jump in with the side that is already winning FW? well that's typical. Yea it looks that way, but this was a deal struck months ago before Caldari lost a good chunk of their systems. I have post on this forum to back it. Seek Caldari backing for Corps to aid them. This is all great steps in being accepted by Capsuleers.
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:11:00 - [14] - Quote oh not throwing blame your way Z. it's just sad that it's turning out that way. a lot of the big name corps went Gallente when they started making the Characters and will probly back Gallente in FW.
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 140	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:13:00 - [15] - Quote DOWN WITH THOOSE AMARR INBREDS. MINMATAR WILL CRUSH ALL THOOSE WHO STAND BEFORE US.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:15:00 - [16] - Quote Gallente All Day Every Day !
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:56:00 - [17] - Quote Faction warfare will always be poorly balanced simply because of the story backgrounds, who wants to be a religious zealot who owns slaves when you can be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks and the best pvp ships in the game.
R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2013.01.10 10:07:00 - [18] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Faction warfare will always be poorly balanced simply because of the story backgrounds, who wants to be a religious zealot who owns slaves when you can be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks and the best pvp ships in the game. You'd be surprised actually. The Amarr have always had less pilots than the Minmatar, but they are generally well organised. The minnies were a disorganised rabble, fighting each other almost as much as the enemy, in part because it attracts people who want to be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks. Also, there's plenty of players/corps that ignore the back story altogether, and chose a faction based on which will give them the most fun. With lower skilled players flocking to successful factions, you often see smaller more experienced groups joining the other side and then fighting quite successfully while heavily outnumbered (giving "good fights"). Over the long term it seems to have been relatively well balanced.
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.01.10 10:13:00 - [19] - Quote I was fighting for the amarr while the new system came in where losing control of a system locked you out of station, we were constantly outnumbered all those nubs add up when they are following the orders of a good FC, not to mention having a core of vets. Either way balance is something for the devs to worry about, pretty sure my corp wants to go gallente, i'll have fought for 3 militias if thats the case, my eve side standings with gallente are terrible lol.
Fasjh Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2013.01.10 10:30:00 - [20] - Quote Trust In Rust.

Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.01.10 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: DOWN WITH THOOSE AMARR INBREDS. MINMATAR WILL CRUSH ALL THOOSE WHO STAND BEFORE US. Nothing stopping us from supporting our Matari allies and engaging the Amarr. With extreme predjudice, ofc.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.01.10 17:44:00 - [22] - Quote Quote: Does the DUST 514 mercenary's corporation have to enroll in FW to accept these contracts? The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder) http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE-DUST_514_Link_FAQ#Does_the_DUST_514_mercenary.27s_corporation_have_to_enroll_in_FW_to_accept_these_contracts.3F
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.01.10 17:51:00 - [23] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Faction warfare will always be poorly balanced simply because of the story backgrounds, who wants to be a religious zealot who owns slaves when you can be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks and the best pvp ships in the game. You'd be surprised actually. The Amarr have always had less pilots than the Minmatar, but they are generally well organised. The minnies were a disorganised rabble, fighting each other almost as much as the enemy, in part because it attracts people who want to be a cool freedom fighter with dreadlocks. Also, there's plenty of players/corps that ignore the back story altogether, and chose a faction based on which will give them the most fun. With lower skilled players flocking to successful factions, you often see smaller more experienced groups joining the other side and then fighting quite successfully while heavily outnumbered (giving "good fights"). Over the long term it seems to have been relatively well balanced. Minnies were always organized in FW more than the amarr or recent times Then again i think they had more farmers than PvP pilots tbh Then after the FW change amarr packed up shop and ran, minnie steamrolled most of it and even if amarr tried to do something the minnie pilots booted up amarr alts and flipped the systems back after they had farmed them
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.01.10 18:02:00 - [24] - Quote So who gets to set up contracts in FW? Do you have to be a special rank in the militia? Also, what stops a conspiratorial group on the other side from employing a shell corp to throw a battle?
crazy space 2100046106 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.01.10 18:48:00 - [25] - Quote So ammar loyal dust players can just spam us out of defending . Ok...
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.10 19:13:00 - [26] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: So who gets to set up contracts in FW? Do you have to be a special rank in the militia? Also, what stops a conspiratorial group on the other side from employing a shell corp to throw a battle? FW contracts are put out by the NPC corps at the moment - any director or CEO can accept the contracts on your corp's behalf.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.01.10 19:24:00 - [27] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: So who gets to set up contracts in FW? Do you have to be a special rank in the militia? Also, what stops a conspiratorial group on the other side from employing a shell corp to throw a battle? FW contracts are put out by the NPC corps at the moment - any director or CEO can accept the contracts on your corp's behalf. would there be a legitimate way to see what these look like if you aren't a CEO or director of a corp?
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2013.01.10 19:48:00 - [28] - Quote i hear theres no fights on the gallante side.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2013.01.10 22:58:00 - [29] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: On the 15th of Jan ZionTCD is Joining Gallente Faction Warfare on both EVE and DUST 514. So the Question is what side will you fight for or are you going for who ever pays. Gallente vs Caldari Amarr vs Minmatar Quote: Does the DUST 514 mercenary's corporation have to enroll in FW to accept these contracts? The DUST merc's corporation does NOT have to be enrolled in FW to accept these contracts. DUST CEOs/Directors can accept a contract from any faction at any time (even if the EVE side of their corp is enrolled in FW on the other side or if the corp has bad standings with that faction! A true mercenary fights for the highest bidder) Link DUST FW Blog I plan to go Gallente and shoot Gallente in space.
Rayan Storm ZionTCD Legacy Rising 358	Posted - 2013.01.10 23:35:00 - [30] - Quote So....at the moment, the game is still more or less what it was. No non-NPC contracts yet.

Rayan Storm ZionTCD Legacy Rising 358	Posted - 2013.01.10 23:38:00 - [31] - Quote Zion, if we are not Gallente, i WILL depose you! JK No, but really. Watch it, mister!
Aselus En Terra Crimson Right 0	Posted - 2013.01.10 23:44:00 - [32] - Quote well at least one of us in Amarr has to say something I think. Although i'm in the odd Kador anti-Sarum, pro-jove camp.... not exactly CVA so also death to Sarum... fraking false empress. Honor on the battlefield, to many gf to come! ~Aselus en Terra (Avatar of Aselus) P.S.: give me an assault amarr suit already! Or some heavy laser weaponry.


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