Thanks - DP - I'll share with my team.

Great stuff, I think flux grenades and high ground are the most important tips.

I used to run all the damage mods and expensive shield extenders but I die to much lol. The tsunami does a pretty good job at half the cost of the cyclone. I don't personally find the cyclone to be worth the extra isk.

I'm pretty fond of the Assault Mass Driver for smaller maps. Flux grenades are much more important but the larger splash radius throws of the aim of enemies enough that you can dump a lot of shells and run.

Im using the AUR bought version vs the ISK and I find its working out pretty good.

The Cyclone Exo-5 AUR bought vs Proto MD's is kinda lame. No real change in stats, the Core is ok to use but you have to be spot on the target and not work with splash damage.

I want different types of MD, maybe ones that fire Flux grenades or fires 3 grenades, show some variation in styles of MD.

Whats your thoughts on Proto MD and different types?

All the standard ones suck. The first really useful MD is the tsunami, then moved up to the cyclone. So I've really only used the AUR MDs

I think a cool idea for a proto would be one that can fire either flux or standard rounds. Give it a 6 round mag that fires 3 flux and 3 standard grenades. Give it the same reload time but give it a 2 second switch over time from grenade types.

I'm listening.. Keep going.. Assault MD you say...

I like that idea, heck any variation of what we have now would be cool.

How far have you taken your skills in MD? Do you use the Light Sharpshooter Skill, what other skills are you going into?

MD lvl 5, proficiency lvl 3, sharpshooter lvl 5

I run mainly logi so I'm running MD a lot but I've also moved in to laser rifle. LR kind of sucks because without a sidearm can't do any cqc.

Sever Logi BPO

Weaponry 5

MD operation 4

Light weapon SS 3

Exo 5 MD ISK version tier III

Two enhanced shield extenders, 2 armor plates

Flux nades, rep tool, hive, and injector is my std set, however lately been using RE's but that creates issues not having both inj and rep tool for my squad since forgoing hive is a nonstarter. Im thinking about testing PE's so i can set and forget and then get to a supply depot and switch to my hive/inj/rep suit and still have objectives protected without having to set off the RE.

Now at range i try to find elevation to push people into cover so my teammates can "cleanup"

When i want to do the killing i try to use to get into alleys and corridors where people cant escape easily and surprise them with a flux nade and then come out of cover and start dropping MD fire on them, the key to success however is knowing how to hit the floor behind them or hitting shots off objects behind them to protect you from damage

I also find bunny hopping in close quarters keeps me from getting hurt too much by splash damage, its also a good way to avoid or at least mitigate the splash damage you incur from MD fire similar to nades.

Also the key is to learn the distance and how to lead your shots, in CQC i will often strafe one direction but place my shots in the opposite direction since most ppl instinctively strage away from you to try to create distance, one shot in that direction almost guarantees they change the direction so i try to anticipate that so i can setup a direct hit. but with flux and that setup above its enough to kill in 2 well placed shots 4-5 if your just spraying.

*semi auto noobtube or pro pipe

Like I said, please dont make this a bash thread. Players can make constructive threads with out having to getting Trolled.

Also if you knew anything about MD you would know your statement is false. Good day sir..

i like how people get instantly defensive or butthurt. Did I say anything was wrong it it?

People in this forum take everything said way too serious.

IDGAF what people have fun with. Like to pro pipe? By all means, feel free to noobtube. Because I chose to call it that you assume I'm calling you a "noob" as an attempt to insult you or troll you. Chill out.

+1 for the reply, Good info.

So Logi suit question, how much total Shields and armor are you running with on what type of suit do you have? I may have to go Logi next time just for the added equipment slots. Ill do some more research on the subject, but I think you changed my mind on what suit to get next time we reset.

You acted as a troll and now you are backing out of what you said. Calling something a "Noob______" is non-contructive and is indicative of some who trolls. What response did you think I or anyone would respond with? Oh gee thanks for the post, yeah I love my Noob tube.. You throw trash at someone expect to get it back.

Like I said Good day Sir.. Now **** off.

How is Logi suit with MD, what are the benefits to running a B series Assault vs a B series Logi suit. Do you get more armor, shields, PG/CPU, equipment slots? What do you lose compared to an Assault suit?

back out of trolling? HAHAHAHAHAHA...first time I've EVER heard that one, and I was on Battlelog steady!


A weapon shooting nades (M320) has been called a noobtube for years now, so I don't know what makes you think you're special. You use something shooting nades that explode on impact...sounds awful lot like a M320 but semi auto.

If you feel like a noob then fine, if you don't, then fine. You are what you perceive yourself to be.

Telling me "f*ck" and all... you mad over something sir?

GO to the marketplace and look at the suits yourself in the class you are interested in. It would be way too large a wall of text for me to explain the differences. Actually it isnt

There are no variants like assault class that gives increased shield at the cost of armor, they are all 125 shield and i think 105 armor as a base(not sure about the armor).

The main difference is that the 2 varaints differ in equipments slots Tier I give 3 slots at the cost of movement speed and stamina
The other varaints have 2 slots but give you more stamina and speed. So you'll move either like a slightly faster heavy or a slightly slower assualt depending on which way you go. As far as modules they are i believe they are the same from tier to tier b/w assualt class and logi class, 2 and 2 and then 3 and 3 i think.

Like i said check the marketplace and you'll be able to see for sure. Just press triangle and look at the stats to see what they all give.

Oh logi have tons of CPU/PG thats why they can stack some really ridiculous things together like dmg mods at lower levels of dropsuit fittings. Its all about which types of modules you use that can really extend the life out of your low end gear.

back out of trolling? HAHAHAHAHAHA...first time I've EVER heard that one, and I was on Battlelog steady!

A weapon shooting nades (M320) has been called a noobtube for years now, so I don't know what makes you think you're special. You use something shooting nades that explode on impact...sounds awful lot like a M320 but semi auto.

If you feel like a noob then fine, if you don't, then fine. You are what you perceive yourself to be.

Telling me "f*ck" and all... you mad over something sir?

I dont see anything wrong here. At close range the MD is a noob tube that fires off "nades" but if you arent careful and mindful of your surroundings it will kill you like all "noob" tubes.

However where a skilled MD user and a nonskilled MD user is evident is at range. Sure you can do damage but getting kills takes skill even more so than AR since you have to manage both distance and direction and lead your aim to a moving target in a way AR and yes even Snipers don't have to in this game. So if a person is racking up kills at range with an MD on the regular either they are skilled, leeching kills from others, or the reddots are extremely dumb.

Skill with a MD really shines in the hands of ppl who can land DIRECT hits consistently or the ever elusive direct headshot. Also skill in close quarter shines when a player manages their clip properly, too many MD scrubs just fire at will and if they dont get the kill in the first 4 shots those last 2 arent going to help because they will miss those as well.

The best part of my day is Headshot from a mile away one shot killing my target. Nothing in this game is like it.

I run two logi fits with MD(only run the MD unless I am so broke the I go free with Exile).

My first is my real cheap.

Sever BPO

Highs - 1 complex 1 enhanced shield mods
Lows - Enhanced armor plate and militia armor rep(not enough basic to go enhanced but militia fits so to save money militia it is).
Weapon - Exo 5 MD
Equipment -Militia Nanite injector, triage rep gun, and Gauged nanohives
Nades - flux nades

Advanced suit - A series( I don't run the B because I am a main logi and need the hives for my own ammo)

Highs - 3 Complex shield mods
Low - Enhanced armor plates, Comlex shield restorer faster mod, enhanced armor rep
Weapon - Exo 5
Equipment - Kin12 nanite Injector, Triage rep gun, and Gauged nanohives
Grenades - Advanced flux nades

My skills are MD LV 5, MD Pro LV 2, Light weapon capacity LV 2, Rapid reload LV 2, Sharpshooter LV 2(did this early and really don't think it is needed for the MD for how close the encounters are right now. I can hit from Bravo to Delta on the 5 point map right now).

The only advise I have is not only fight from the high ground as this is universal for an encounter all around, but almost never fight up hill at least try to gain a level battlefield. I have been using the MD for over 3 months and still have not found the angles that you need to fight up hill really well I am better now with it, but you are at a serious disadvantage that is most of the time not able to be over come.

Thanks Goat, BTW next time we are on the same team, switch to Team Chat. If I see you or others Ill usually try to chat.

See you on the field soon ;)

Yeah you had me at tons of CPU/PG.. done and done Logi next build it is.

Every good corp that I've ran into has someone who totes a MD as one of their loadouts so ... that fact speaks volumes for the Mass Driver's effectiveness when coupled with a good squad.

I'm personally fond of getting a nicely tanked scout suit, charging up point blank and shooting someone directly in the face with a breach MD. OHK pretty much anything, and the splash is usually small enough that it barely stings. Melee if they survive.

It's also strong as hell against vehicles, especially if you put damage mods on it you can rain hell.


That said, I'm firmly a believer that they never should've increased the splash radius on MD's and that the skill to do so should have been a bonus to reserve capacity or put more power/speed into the arc.

I'm personally fond of getting a nicely tanked scout suit, charging up point blank and shooting someone directly in the face with a breach MD. OHK pretty much anything, and the splash is usually small enough that it barely stings. Melee if they survive.

It's also strong as hell against vehicles, especially if you put damage mods on it you can rain hell.


That said, I'm firmly a believer that they never should've increased the splash radius on MD's and that the skill to do so should have been a bonus to reserve capacity or put more power/speed into the arc.

You do realize this is an Area Effect weapon.... and the first 5 enhancements are blast radius... its not like they just increased it without anyone having to work for it.

Forge Gun to the FaceGäó There's nothing else like it for me. Even sweeter when it's a protobear.

Tsunami md
Assault type II
2 shield extender complex
Basic armor plate
Militia armor repair
Nanohive gauged

This was my bread and butter but trust me friend, get dat dat B-series! Have the same loadout but with a complex damage modifier and you will love it. Or you could go double damage mod. Also get prof. 3 or better. Would talk about going proto but right now there really isn't any need but the four highs and extra equip does look lovely!

So with some new SP's I got MD to Prof 3 and working towards 4, man this makes a HUGE difference in the damage output on the MD. The additional 9% is basically a damage module added to the gun. I have made a few loadouts without the damage mod (10%) I can last longer vs ProtoBears but still find a damage mod and 2 Shield Extenders are working better.

Any new MD ideas or new builds?

Poll Question's for you guys:

1. How many use Damage Mods with MD?
2. How many of you use Flux grenades

Both !
I use a Complex damage mod and Prof 3
and I use Flux level 1

So with some new SP's I got MD to Prof 3 and working towards 4, man this makes a HUGE difference in the damage output on the MD. The additional 9% is basically a damage module added to the gun. I have made a few loadouts without the damage mod (10%) I can last longer vs ProtoBears but still find a damage mod and 2 Shield Extenders are working better.

Any new MD ideas or new builds?

Poll Question's for you guys:

1. How many use Damage Mods with MD?
2. How many of you use Flux grenades

Just Flux for now. It's great for softening up the enemy whether I'm solo or supporting my squad, and I prefer using the slot for defense so I can stay alive longer to revive and heal more. I leave the heavy killing to the front line elements of my squad.

So I'm guessing Logi suit and injector for you then, do you carry nanohives in that loadout? Any preference on injectors or Nanohives? What lvl suit are you running with?

Planning on going Logi next build vs the Assault that I use now. More equipment slots, better PG/CPU for stacking of modules.

I'm using the SEVER BPO Logi suit, needle, hives, and rep tool, though I have one rarely used fit that swaps out the rep tool tor an uplink. For the most part I use a scout suit to deploy uplinks as it is faster and completely BPO. I'm not sure which I would go with if I had to choose only two pieces of equipment, but fortunately I don't have to. The EXO-5 MD rounds out my loadout. I just bought MD Proficiency L3, so it's as If I have one damage module anyway.

Ha! Good Man, its the way to go these days. What suit are you using?

Great stuff, I think flux grenades and high ground are the most important tips.

I used to run all the damage mods and expensive shield extenders but I die to much lol. The tsunami does a pretty good job at half the cost of the cyclone. I don't personally find the cyclone to be worth the extra isk.