AR's especially Exile are everywhere. Heavy's are more common, but not all that much, you just notice them more because a few more joined to become a greater threat. There is a definite increase in Lasers, maybe 20% now, and MD is slightly more common. HMG is being pulled out becuaseof the influx of login bros willing to back a Heavy up now.

If other weapons came as militia, or came in starter fits, then I think this problem would be less. This needs to happen first before further rebalancing IMO.

Allright the current build is out for some quite time and ive made the following observations:
-Main weapon is still the assault rifle
-increase of logis running around the field
-massive increase on people who use a heavy+HMG
-laser rifle users are still a minority you see maybe 1 laser every 4 matches.
-mass drivers are still rare

My main concern is that a huge amount of players are focus now on on heavys. There is allmost no skirmish where the half opposite team is not sitting in heavy suits with HMG's. This becomes appearently very popular since the AR has beeing balanced and now every n00b hops to the next best thing to spray and pray. Because the accuracy has beeing increased aswell on them they can shot you on allmost the exact same range like assault rifles. Opposed to the general thoughts laser rifles are not the thing that the majority is going for cause you need to be accurate with them to do anything good. Though i saw heavys with laser rifles. Well i would like to hear other opinions about the "heavy dropsuit situation".

Heavy's. All most. Apparently. Being. As well. All most. Heavy's.

Thought you read your posts though before posting them? You really let all those mistakes get thought your proof read?...


AR's will always be the most popular weapon, the problem is that now some of the AR variants are balanced and some are unusable, like the breach and TAC variants.

More logi's is due to the WP's being put back in now that boosting has been fixed.

Massive increase of heavy's/HMG is due in part to the AR nerf, now we have lots of much harder to kill people on the field using the same tactics they use to.

Laser rifles are much, much, much more common now, they are severely OP and need looking at.

MD's are also slightly OP and need looking at.

Since when the hell were lasers severely OP? No one complained about them last build. Neither about MD'S

personally i dont see a problem with how ppl specialise now
ARs will ALWAYS be the main goto weapon of ANY FPS game. Its the standard all around decent weapon
anyone who plays FPS will automatically gravitate towards the AR

MDs, LRs i consider speciality support weapons

Just because people don't complain does not mean something is not balanced, it simply means the masses have not worked out that the items are unbalanced yet.

Give it a few weeks and everyone will be using MD's and LR's. LR's especially.

Funny how Dark Cloud was crying about AR's for weeks and now they can't counter LR's due to being unbalanced he thinks that LR's are perfectly balanced.

Lol shots fired

Lasers aint OP they are in the same state like shotguns. When you are in optimal range you deliver devastating damage, if not you get killed very easy. Even a proto laser will barely touch the shilds from a militia assault suit at point blank range while he gets gunned down by a AR. You simply need to do the opposite what you do against shotgunners. Against shotguns you keep distance, against lasers you need to get close. Treat a laser rifle user like a sniper, get up close and kill him. Its not that hard to do. And most laser rifle users will stay in a good overview spot where they can keep distance. Another thing is lasers do have range limitations you can do the range game aswell by picking up a sniper rifle and outrange the laser. And dont tell me that there are not enough snipers. In the last build you could see every match 3-4 snipers sitting on mountains.

Well if you think the lasers are overpowered i can give you details in what it is capable:
-area denial for infantry
-medium-long range support

not capable:
-CQB fights
-assaulting objectives

In my eyes its mainly a squad weapon to support your guys against people who are on medium-long distance. You can aswell defend a objective as long you have a good and wide view in the area where hostile troops need to proceed. However a laser rifle is not capable in taking a objective cause its just not good enough to fight people up close to a objective. Thats where AR guys hop in and go for the hack. What you guys mainly are getting upset is when 1 laser rifle gets into a very good overview spot and basically camps it like no tomorrow on ambush (my speciality). This is a legit tactic cause on ambush you are supposed to get as many kills as possible and dont die to much. And you guys forget the fact that a AR kills up close much quicker then a laser rifle. And shotguns have the potential of 1 hit kills. The AR is a jack of all trades. You get what you pay for. It doesnt shine in any special situation but it is a decent allround weapon. The damage is fine on it cause when you get up close you basically force the laser rifle guy to use his sidearm which is high likely to be inferior to your assault rifle. And i highly doubt that you will see tons of lasers in the future. Simply due to the fact when a n00b picks up this weapon he does terrible with it. To be good with it you must have these things:

-situational awareness
-good positioning
-good aim (cause you need to be aible to keep the beam on the target)
-squad support who helps you to defend your camp spot on ambush

Yes i can get 30-0 on ambush simply cause nobody is actually bothered to take me out. Before the maps became smaller i had massive problems with snipers who hunt me down. And whats so hard to pick up a laser rifle by yourself and trying to fight back? Its basically then the same situation with AR vs AR. The guy with the better reflexes and aim will win. And its not really difficult to find the laser rifle user. Just look from where the bright green beam is coming.

If they are not OP why did i just jump in a match without a single AR and everyone was running LRs?....

Everybodys jumping on that right now because they are OP.

If they are not OP why did i just jump in a match without a single AR and everyone was running LRs?....

Everybodys jumping on that right now because they are OP.

Because ppl are fraking idiots, they see themselves getting demolished by a LR user so they decide eeww i want to try that. NVM the reason ppl get slammed by LR is because they move around open space for too long. All you have to do is learn to find objects to put b/w you and a LR and they are worthless. Then close the gap. Too much open space to cover to close the gap, have you squad provide covering fire till you can, tactics do help. The reason ppl think the LR is so beastly is because most FPSers play out in the open like morons never thinking or worrying about cover until a sniper rings their bell. People just need to adjust, once they learn to think about the possible threats to get from point A to point B they wont find any gun OP.

Sounds like LR user QQ to me.

lol tbh i gotta agree on the part with ppl playin out in the open too much and completely oblivious to their surroundings.
not gonna lie DUST currently has some of the worst players FPS wise ive ever seen.

I STILL see ppl crouch in the middle of the road when in a gunfight or some dude trying to be "tactical" and crouch on a rock somewhere with his sides and all other angles wide open.

Ive even seen bluedots around an objective and completely oblivious to the single red dot hackin the objective 10 meters from them.....like srsly.....u dont notice the text and flashing light sayin ur letter is being taken?

My main concern is that a huge amount of players are focus now on on heavys. There is allmost no skirmish where the half opposite team is not sitting in heavy suits with HMG's. This becomes appearently very popular since the AR has beeing balanced and now every n00b hops to the next best thing to spray and pray. Because the accuracy has beeing increased aswell on them they can shot you on allmost the exact same range like assault rifles.

Funny how Dark Cloud was crying about AR's for weeks and now they can't counter LR's due to being unbalanced he thinks that LR's are perfectly balanced.

Are they the best long range weapons? Yup. Even over the sniper rifle, the snipers cant move when they shoot.

With a Viziam and damage mods it is ridiculous how much damage an LR can do. Am I calling for them to be nerfed, not really, but I would like them to look at the damage output compared to snipers.

I agree the LR is a support weapon because of it's range. But if a good LR user is in an elevated position with proto laser/damage mods it will swing the battle for sure, seen it happen time and again this build.

Best solution rather than tweaking damage would be to make the LR only damage shields.

It's a true support weapon then.

Fun thing to know is that i used laser rifles before every 1 else even thought off it. Cause they where looked down and nobody even thought of replacing their precious AR. This was stright after the missile launcher nerf and i wanted something that not every 1 used. And oh well seems like it worked out pretty well for me.

Fun thing to know is that i used laser rifles before every 1 else even thought off it. Cause they where looked down and nobody even thought of replacing their precious AR. This was stright after the missile launcher nerf and i wanted something that not every 1 used. And oh well seems like it worked out pretty well for me.

lol tbh i gotta agree on the part with ppl playin out in the open too much and completely oblivious to their surroundings.
not gonna lie DUST currently has some of the worst players FPS wise ive ever seen.

I STILL see ppl crouch in the middle of the road when in a gunfight or some dude trying to be "tactical" and crouch on a rock somewhere with his sides and all other angles wide open.

Ive even seen bluedots around an objective and completely oblivious to the single red dot hackin the objective 10 meters from them.....like srsly.....u dont notice the text and flashing light sayin ur letter is being taken?

If they are not OP why did i just jump in a match without a single AR and everyone was running LRs?....

Everybodys jumping on that right now because they are OP.

Allright the current build is out for some quite time and ive made the following observations:
-Main weapon is still the assault rifle
-increase of logis running around the field
-massive increase on people who use a heavy+HMG
-laser rifle users are still a minority you see maybe 1 laser every 4 matches.
-mass drivers are still rare

My main concern is that a huge amount of players are focus now on on heavys. There is allmost no skirmish where the half opposite team is not sitting in heavy suits with HMG's. This becomes appearently very popular since the AR has beeing balanced and now every n00b hops to the next best thing to spray and pray. Because the accuracy has beeing increased aswell on them they can shot you on allmost the exact same range like assault rifles. Opposed to the general thoughts laser rifles are not the thing that the majority is going for cause you need to be accurate with them to do anything good. Though i saw heavys with laser rifles. Well i would like to hear other opinions about the "heavy dropsuit situation".

just because u see it everygame dont mean its OP
i still see way more ARs than MDs or LRs and its not only from the casual ppl but still from the ppl beta testing the game

ive seen a slight increase in variation in terms of LRs and MDs
Heavies got a big boost, seeing alot more of those recently