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Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.26 05:11:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Well if you think the lasers are overpowered i can give you details in what it is capable: -area denial for infantry -medium-long range support
not capable: -CQB fights -assaulting objectives
In my eyes its mainly a squad weapon to support your guys against people who are on medium-long distance. You can aswell defend a objective as long you have a good and wide view in the area where hostile troops need to proceed. However a laser rifle is not capable in taking a objective cause its just not good enough to fight people up close to a objective. Thats where AR guys hop in and go for the hack. What you guys mainly are getting upset is when 1 laser rifle gets into a very good overview spot and basically camps it like no tomorrow on ambush (my speciality). This is a legit tactic cause on ambush you are supposed to get as many kills as possible and dont die to much. And you guys forget the fact that a AR kills up close much quicker then a laser rifle. And shotguns have the potential of 1 hit kills. The AR is a jack of all trades. You get what you pay for. It doesnt shine in any special situation but it is a decent allround weapon. The damage is fine on it cause when you get up close you basically force the laser rifle guy to use his sidearm which is high likely to be inferior to your assault rifle. And i highly doubt that you will see tons of lasers in the future. Simply due to the fact when a n00b picks up this weapon he does terrible with it. To be good with it you must have these things:
-situational awareness -good positioning -good aim (cause you need to be aible to keep the beam on the target) -squad support who helps you to defend your camp spot on ambush
Yes i can get 30-0 on ambush simply cause nobody is actually bothered to take me out. Before the maps became smaller i had massive problems with snipers who hunt me down. And whats so hard to pick up a laser rifle by yourself and trying to fight back? Its basically then the same situation with AR vs AR. The guy with the better reflexes and aim will win. And its not really difficult to find the laser rifle user. Just look from where the bright green beam is coming. If they are not OP why did i just jump in a match without a single AR and everyone was running LRs?.... Everybodys jumping on that right now because they are OP.
Because ppl are fraking idiots, they see themselves getting demolished by a LR user so they decide eeww i want to try that. NVM the reason ppl get slammed by LR is because they move around open space for too long. All you have to do is learn to find objects to put b/w you and a LR and they are worthless. Then close the gap. Too much open space to cover to close the gap, have you squad provide covering fire till you can, tactics do help. The reason ppl think the LR is so beastly is because most FPSers play out in the open like morons never thinking or worrying about cover until a sniper rings their bell. People just need to adjust, once they learn to think about the possible threats to get from point A to point B they wont find any gun OP.
Edit-Now if you want to talk about the combo of a LR with a tier III SMG or a skilled scrambler users now we can talk that combo reminds of the dual wield needler with a single burst from the BR in Halo 2. |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.26 05:39:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Gunner Visari wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Well if you think the lasers are overpowered i can give you details in what it is capable: -area denial for infantry -medium-long range support
not capable: -CQB fights -assaulting objectives
In my eyes its mainly a squad weapon to support your guys against people who are on medium-long distance. You can aswell defend a objective as long you have a good and wide view in the area where hostile troops need to proceed. However a laser rifle is not capable in taking a objective cause its just not good enough to fight people up close to a objective. Thats where AR guys hop in and go for the hack. What you guys mainly are getting upset is when 1 laser rifle gets into a very good overview spot and basically camps it like no tomorrow on ambush (my speciality). This is a legit tactic cause on ambush you are supposed to get as many kills as possible and dont die to much. And you guys forget the fact that a AR kills up close much quicker then a laser rifle. And shotguns have the potential of 1 hit kills. The AR is a jack of all trades. You get what you pay for. It doesnt shine in any special situation but it is a decent allround weapon. The damage is fine on it cause when you get up close you basically force the laser rifle guy to use his sidearm which is high likely to be inferior to your assault rifle. And i highly doubt that you will see tons of lasers in the future. Simply due to the fact when a n00b picks up this weapon he does terrible with it. To be good with it you must have these things:
-situational awareness -good positioning -good aim (cause you need to be aible to keep the beam on the target) -squad support who helps you to defend your camp spot on ambush
Yes i can get 30-0 on ambush simply cause nobody is actually bothered to take me out. Before the maps became smaller i had massive problems with snipers who hunt me down. And whats so hard to pick up a laser rifle by yourself and trying to fight back? Its basically then the same situation with AR vs AR. The guy with the better reflexes and aim will win. And its not really difficult to find the laser rifle user. Just look from where the bright green beam is coming. If they are not OP why did i just jump in a match without a single AR and everyone was running LRs?.... Everybodys jumping on that right now because they are OP. Because ppl are fraking idiots, they see themselves getting demolished by a LR user so they decide eeww i want to try that. NVM the reason ppl get slammed by LR is because they move around open space for too long. All you have to do is learn to find objects to put b/w you and a LR and they are worthless. Then close the gap. Too much open space to cover to close the gap, have you squad provide covering fire till you can, tactics do help. The reason ppl think the LR is so beastly is because most FPSers play out in the open like morons never thinking or worrying about cover until a sniper rings their bell. People just need to adjust, once they learn to think about the possible threats to get from point A to point B they wont find any gun OP. Sounds like LR user QQ to me.
Actually i dont use the LR, i use AR with my assault class and i bounce b/w SMG and MD with my Logi build. Know plenty of LR users have dealt with enough of them in battle, the only scenario that i thought of that would make them OP is if I were to spec my Assault class into LR and SMG skill opeartions and LW and Sidearm sharpshooters, that might be a sick combo with the LR cutting you down and me letting you close the gap to eat my SMG for dinner. But thats a tactic not the result of one weapon. There are other combinations of weapons and or grenades that can produce similar effects because they complement the weakness inherent in a given weapon. |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.26 05:44:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:lol tbh i gotta agree on the part with ppl playin out in the open too much and completely oblivious to their surroundings. not gonna lie DUST currently has some of the worst players FPS wise ive ever seen.
I STILL see ppl crouch in the middle of the road when in a gunfight or some dude trying to be "tactical" and crouch on a rock somewhere with his sides and all other angles wide open.
Ive even seen bluedots around an objective and completely oblivious to the single red dot hackin the objective 10 meters from them.....like srsly.....u dont notice the text and flashing light sayin ur letter is being taken?
I love it when ppl crounch makes the headshot so much easier. its like they are bowing before they meet their end. |
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