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Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:08:00 -
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Not sure about ever one else but kind of suck at this game, love it to death but still suck in my old age. I would like to put out there, and see what you about adding some Insurance to say 10 drop suits per match I'm at the point where if I us anything but the free stuff it cost me money to use more then one or two based on the current pay out rates.
This is what I'm think 10 AUR at the start of each match for one line of suits and have some kind of carry over to the next match if you don't us them all, so we can start maken some isk and not just being forced to drop down to the cheap suits if I have any dreams of making any isk and not haven every match cost me isk. This is just a thought mind you so be kind and caring thank you.
Also whats up with spawning targets right next to you at the start of each match it never fails I always get a heavy with a mini gun i cant kill =P |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2866
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:57:00 -
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The only insurance you need is your trusty plasma rifle blowing a hole clear though your opponents head. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:06:00 -
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If you don't want to be running at a loss, bring Starter Fits. if you have AUR, buy a few Militia Blueprints to mod them with.
That way, you have a selection of free suits to run with.
If you DON'T have AUR, you can use a few non-blueprint Militia items to mod the Start Fits, and while they won't be FREE, you can create a competent fitting for almost any situation with less than 5,000 ISK per restock. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:17:00 -
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I'm not sure about dropsuits, but you should definitely be able to take out insurance on your vehicles. That would certainly ease my suffering just a little. Just do it like in EVE. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:20:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Not sure about ever one else but kind of suck at this game, love it to death but still suck in my old age. I would like to put out there, and see what you about adding some Insurance to say 10 drop suits per match I'm at the point where if I us anything but the free stuff it cost me money to use more then one or two based on the current pay out rates.
This is what I'm think 10 AUR at the start of each match for one line of suits and have some kind of carry over to the next match if you don't us them all, so we can start maken some isk and not just being forced to drop down to the cheap suits if I have any dreams of making any isk and not haven every match cost me isk. This is just a thought mind you so be kind and caring thank you.
Also whats up with spawning targets right next to you at the start of each match it never fails I always get a heavy with a mini gun i cant kill =P
I've thought of this before and actually do think CCP will add this someday - it just makes sense. It's not a pay to win feature - yet you could pay so your deaths sting less. |
Mogar Bobac
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:35:00 -
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The up side to this though is the balance. You can choose to pay at the beginning of the match, but you dont have to. If you don't die you've lost money. If you do die your reimbursed a percent of your loss. Were not all amazing killers ya know |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:47:00 -
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I like this idea innsure a line of 10 suits and u get yeh base v
value back but forfit u isk rewards or somthing needs to sting enough that people don't fraud it :-) |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:59:00 -
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For those that don't know: CCP does allow you to insure ships in Eve, so this request does have a basis. I don't think it would work well in this game, however. |
Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.21 23:20:00 -
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Putting some insurance on vehicles isn't to bad and why not insure drop suits as well its a form of property and possessions  ether that or up the pay. sting is ok when you lose, is one thing but i just had a match that i won 13\9 payout 249k isk i spent 350k isk to make it happen hmm can anyone do some simply math on that one for me lol. oh and thank god i didnt put a tank or flyer in there to help win and lose it =P |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.12.21 23:28:00 -
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I don't really see a point. You know you're going to lose your dropsuit over and over in Dust. In Eve, you're more or less investing in insurance for a ship that costs a lot more and isn't always certain that you'll lose it. Putting insurance in Dust would just be adding a pointless layer of complication to the cost of dropsuits... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.12.21 23:52:00 -
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There needs to be something that tells us how much ISK we've lost in the battle- we could also set a "spending limit" warning amount.
In other words- I might want to set a 100,000 ISK spending limit. It will list my ISK lost as "X/100,000", then warn me (possibly by changing the fitting name's color to yellow) when a fitting would bring me over that limit. |
Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:There needs to be something that tells us how much ISK we've lost in the battle- we could also set a "spending limit" warning amount.
In other words- I might want to set a 100,000 ISK spending limit. It will list my ISK lost as "X/100,000", then warn me (possibly by changing the fitting name's color to yellow) when a fitting would bring me over that limit.
That ones simple just keep track of the suits you us and re-up them if you can and do the math some times your a head sometimes no so much |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:08:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:There needs to be something that tells us how much ISK we've lost in the battle- we could also set a "spending limit" warning amount.
In other words- I might want to set a 100,000 ISK spending limit. It will list my ISK lost as "X/100,000", then warn me (possibly by changing the fitting name's color to yellow) when a fitting would bring me over that limit.
I know this without having to have a system tell me. I die once I lose 130K.....I die twice I lose 260K.....I die 3 times well im definitely not going to be making profit on this round. Sometimes I will switch to my skinweaves after 1 death sometimes I wont if the death was a stupid death that shouldnt have happened but I just got unlucky. |
Gemini Reynolds
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:15:00 -
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Insurance for dropsuits? No. Vehicles? Maybe..Outside chance maybe. Installations and such would be much more appropriate though. That way, at least if a bunch of blueberries can't pull their act together, the buildings and equipment aren't a total loss. You'll have enough to buy something to drown your sorrows at least. |
Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:21:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:For those that don't know: CCP does allow you to insure ships in Eve, so this request does have a basis. I don't think it would work well in this game, however.
What do you know |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United
Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:47:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:For those that don't know: CCP does allow you to insure ships in Eve, so this request does have a basis. I don't think it would work well in this game, however. What do you know
Insurance in EVE is based on the mineral prices. Since dropsuits are seeded and not manufactured and you are buying them from an npc basically. The there is no way to really calculate the value of a dropsuit unless they did it by the cost of each one. Which really would be small change when it comes to militia dropsuits. The average frigate in EVE costs 4 to 6 times the cost of a proto. So even a cheap frigate is pushing 400,000 isk.
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slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm not sure about dropsuits, but you should definitely be able to take out insurance on your vehicles. That would certainly ease my suffering just a little. Just do it like in EVE.
Can I get some AFLAK up in here |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:04:00 -
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I use AUR items to stack up. There are times I play Corp battles and I don't get paid back for my losses. I try not to use expensive gears just to get kills. I try not to die a lot, that's my Q.
I use AUR items for active and passive boost to help me level up faster, There are times I don't play and let my passive boosters do it's works.
There are many players are missing the point of squad leader abilities, having the squad leader issue a command order (ex. defend), and anyone in your squad within that command order get more WP, when you heal I believe it's 72 wp. For repair I believe it's 35. For a kill, I believe it's 75? Anyways, you end up having 2000 plus wp and get more ISK. |
Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:15:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Justice Darling wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:For those that don't know: CCP does allow you to insure ships in Eve, so this request does have a basis. I don't think it would work well in this game, however. What do you know Insurance in EVE is based on the mineral prices. Since dropsuits are seeded and not manufactured and you are buying them from an npc basically. The there is no way to really calculate the value of a dropsuit unless they did it by the cost of each one. Which really would be small change when it comes to militia dropsuits. The average frigate in EVE costs 4 to 6 times the cost of a proto. So even a cheap frigate is pushing 400,000 isk.
Its one thing to put a price on a 400k frig that take about 3 mins to mine for and about 10 sec's to loss but the 6 dropsuits that cost around the same no your right no way to calculate it at all but i would say if you base your price on minerals then how many minerals would it take to build a dropsuit in eve and base the in game cost of the suits on that then you can do the break down of cost to minerals |
Justice Darling
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:24:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:I use AUR items to stack up. There are times I play Corp battles and I don't get paid back for my losses. I try not to use expensive gears just to get kills. I try not to die a lot, that's my Q.
I use AUR items for active and passive boost to help me level up faster, There are times I don't play and let my passive boosters do it's works.
There are many players are missing the point of squad leader abilities, having the squad leader issue a command order (ex. defend), and anyone in your squad within that command order get more WP, when you heal I believe it's 72 wp. For repair I believe it's 35. For a kill, I believe it's 75? Anyways, you end up having 2000 plus wp and get more ISK.
afew thing wrong with all of this why have anything if its going to cost you to use it. at this point we all should have AUR and I understand losing a match and haven it cost you but when you win you should make money not lose money. All it really comes down to is an oversight of some kind, and your points are off a bit healing someone 60 wp killing someone 50 wp repairing someone is 25 wp for ever so many armor fixed and i say armor because thats all i have fixed at this point and i have gotten up to 125 wp fixing a heavy before |
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