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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.21 13:57:00 - [1] - Quote Dust 514 is a game in which teamwork is important to success, and communication is very important (if not vital) for teamwork. With this in mind, it doe not make sense why voice chat is set off by default. I have encountered many before in text chat complaining that their voice chat not working because they expect it to be set on by default (as it should be). This leads to unnecessary confusion for new players to deal with when the game is already hard enough for newbies to get a full grasp of. Please have it set on by default. This is a really old issue, and its not a huge task. Its about time this gets resolved. EDIT: This also Garrett Blacknova wrote: Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.21 15:02:00 - [2] - Quote I've been saying that since the E3 build. Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2012.12.21 17:46:00 - [3] - Quote Signed.
OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.12.21 18:10:00 - [4] - Quote I also fully agree with this. I can't think of any other games that have voice chat completely disabled by default.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.21 21:30:00 - [5] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been saying that since the E3 build. Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle. Good points.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.12.21 21:32:00 - [6] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been saying that since the E3 build. Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle. ^This
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2012.12.21 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote Totally agree for posts #1 and #2.
ArMaGeDoN The Cat Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity 157	Posted - 2012.12.22 00:28:00 - [8] - Quote yup
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.23 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote This is vital
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2012.12.23 06:44:00 - [10] - Quote No. It's not difficult to change settings. This would be a worthless change that serves to do nothing. Stop being lazy and do something you should be doing anyway, and configure your settings!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.23 07:59:00 - [11] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: No. It's not difficult to change settings. This would be a worthless change that serves to do nothing. Stop being lazy and do something you should be doing anyway, and configure your settings! Are you saying that I personally am too lazy to configure my own settings? do you think my settings are all default including my voice chat being off? I configure all my settings, and have my voice chat set on, but that isn't the point. This isn't about me, its about all those new people who turn on their mics expecting it to work because that's just common sense that when you turn on your mic in a multiplayer shooter that it should work; those people are in our teams and our squads, and can't communicate with them because they don't know, and it ends up hurting the team. Given the team oriented nature game, it makes more sense to have voice chat on instead of off by default. Why do you think OFF is preferable to ON by default? Why shouldn't the people who want theirs OFF have to be the ones to tweak that setting instead?
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2012.12.23 08:26:00 - [12] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: No. It's not difficult to change settings. This would be a worthless change that serves to do nothing. Stop being lazy and do something you should be doing anyway, and configure your settings! Why shouldn't the people who want theirs OFF have to be the ones to tweak that setting instead? Why shouldn't the people who want theirs ON have to be the ones to tweak that setting instead? It's an echo that is just as valid as what you've said.
Odiain Suliis ZionTCD Legacy Rising 112	Posted - 2012.12.23 08:39:00 - [13] - Quote I would like to say that if you are going to play a game, you should atleast get to know the settings and mechanics. That includes game options. Don't ecpect everything to just land on your lap and be content with it. No need to design and cater to players that are just lazy or expect everything to just work the way they are always worked.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2012.12.23 08:43:00 - [14] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Why shouldn't the people who want theirs ON have to be the ones to tweak that setting instead? It's an echo that is just as valid as what you've said. Because it has nothing to do who with has to go into settings and switch it to off/on. It's about all the clueless bluedots that can't do something on their own. If they can hear someone giving them orders some of them will probably follow these orders as best as they can, and most of these guys will probably end up in a corp and actually get better at the game because their new corpmates might help them out with a lot of things. Most of the clueless bluedots won't care about someone giving them orders, and I don't care if they switch voice chat to off or anything, but it shouldn't ruin it for the rest of the people. This game is all about communications and teamwork, so therefore voice chat should be on by default.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.27 02:00:00 - [15] - Quote Hopefully next build...
Rhadiem Algintal Core Gallente Federation 496	Posted - 2012.12.27 04:26:00 - [16] - Quote +1 for Voice on, but push to talk ON. Voice on lets them hear others, but making Push to Talk be ON by default should prevent a ton of random background noise clutter. Squadmates can help people change settings over voice for those that need handholding.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.05 02:32:00 - [17] - Quote For something minor, it affects a lot. It needs to be readjusted.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.09 23:13:00 - [18] - Quote Still needed.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.13 04:09:00 - [19] - Quote If this is not fixed by open beta, there will be a lot of silent battles with confused players.
The Paige Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.01.13 06:52:00 - [20] - Quote Make it happen

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:32:00 - [21] - Quote Needed.
Velvet Overkill Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 104	Posted - 2013.01.16 10:04:00 - [22] - Quote For a game that relies heavily on teamwork, voice chat should be on by default. If you look at other team based online games, they have voice chat on by default for good reasons. Some reasons to have it On by default: It doesn't make logical sense to have it Off by default. More users want it on than off. It would be easier to just mute the person(s) you don't want to hear than to go in the options to basically mute everyone and yourself. If you want to mute yourself, than you could just do it from the chat channel neocom menu, use PushToTalk , or turn off your mic. It would force users who want voice chat to just work feel alienated.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.25 06:19:00 - [23] - Quote sighs
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 235	Posted - 2013.01.25 07:17:00 - [24] - Quote +1
Lycuo On The Brink 5	Posted - 2013.01.25 08:13:00 - [25] - Quote +1
Crazy Mistah Jay Prima Gallicus 11	Posted - 2013.01.25 11:13:00 - [26] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Dust 514 is a game in which teamwork is important to success, and communication is very important (if not vital) for teamwork. With this in mind, it doe not make sense why voice chat is set off by default. I have encountered many before in text chat complaining that their voice chat not working because they expect it to be set on by default (as it should be). This leads to unnecessary confusion for new players to deal with when the game is already hard enough for newbies to get a full grasp of. Please have it set on by default. This is a really old issue, and its not a huge task. Its about time this gets resolved. EDIT: This also Garrett Blacknova wrote: Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle. I agree, this 2 options must be like you say, because each time a new player of DUST want join my corp, i must explain with the write function how he can speak in-game (he must change options in-game), and i already lost a lot of time for explain the game to my players, so i lost more times with this problem (i want play too !!! )
Monkxx Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.01.25 12:36:00 - [27] - Quote It's natural to have voicechat ON. I honestly see no reason why there should be the ability to completely turn the voicechat off.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.01.25 15:20:00 - [28] - Quote CCP sort it out already.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:27:00 - [29] - Quote Long overdue
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.28 03:44:00 - [30] - Quote Needed

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.28 18:48:00 - [31] - Quote Still unacceptable
Spacetits CDXX Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 105	Posted - 2013.01.28 20:16:00 - [32] - Quote +1 and a bump, the first thing I have to explain to any friend I recruit is how to make voice work, and everybody is like "why doesn't it work by default, like voice in any other game?" well, that's a good question...
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.28 20:32:00 - [33] - Quote nah sorry i disagree it should remain off. not everyone wants kids to hear mic chatter by default and some adults are not interested in random pub match chatter either (WAAAAAHHH TAKE POINT!!! WAAAAH I NEEED HELP!!!! SOMEBODY HOLD MY HAND!!!!) we shouldnt be subjected to that crap by default unless we choose to be.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.28 20:35:00 - [34] - Quote Monkxx wrote: It's natural to have voicechat ON. I honestly see no reason why there should be the ability to completely turn the voicechat off. because %70 of random players are extremely needy, entitled, and annoying when their on a mic
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.28 21:25:00 - [35] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: Monkxx wrote: It's natural to have voicechat ON. I honestly see no reason why there should be the ability to completely turn the voicechat off. because %70 of random players are extremely needy, entitled, and annoying when their on a mic Someone who doesn't know about the current state of voice chat settings might not be annoying. Someone who understands how voice chat works and have it set on may be extremely annoying.
Spacetits CDXX Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 105	Posted - 2013.01.28 21:48:00 - [36] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: nah sorry i disagree it should remain off. not everyone wants kids to hear mic chatter by default and some adults are not interested in random pub match chatter either (WAAAAAHHH TAKE POINT!!! WAAAAH I NEEED HELP!!!! SOMEBODY HOLD MY HAND!!!!) we shouldnt be subjected to that crap by default unless we choose to be. I hear what you're saying, but I don't think a purposefully obscure interface is a good answer to potential problems with the playerbase.
G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2013.01.28 21:51:00 - [37] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle. Oh, dear lord no - the screaming, whining and profanities that will come at all new players, non-stop.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.28 21:56:00 - [38] - Quote For those who are worried about actually hearing other players, there is a MUTE option.
Ion Crush Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 32	Posted - 2013.01.28 22:09:00 - [39] - Quote I agree with Voice chat on by default but leave push to talk on as well. I don't want to hear the clueless blue dots. My First day in beta back in June I got on expecting voice chat and was confused as to why it was not working. Having it off just adds to the confusion of trying to figure this game out. When it is on it is a lot quicker for people to start helping you figure out some of the more complicated parts of the game.
Arken Sarum IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 4	Posted - 2013.01.28 22:12:00 - [40] - Quote Ion Crush wrote: I agree with Voice chat on by default but leave push to talk on as well. I don't want to hear the clueless blue dots. My First day in beta back in June I got on expecting voice chat and was confused as to why it was not working. Having it off just adds to the confusion of trying to figure this game out. When it is on it is a lot quicker for people to start helping you figure out some of the more complicated parts of the game. Voice chat on by default but PTT on by default seems like a good compromise.

Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2013.01.28 22:18:00 - [41] - Quote bump
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.02.19 03:02:00 - [42] - Quote Do it CCP!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3313	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:56:00 - [43] - Quote Hopefully next build
Celeblhach Goggles Inc. 10	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:00:00 - [44] - Quote Definitely something to consider. The game is only rated T in the USA though, so maybe an option (with a major suggestion) at the beginning instead would work better and keep CCP from getting yelled at too much.
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 82	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:02:00 - [45] - Quote I support posts #1 and #2 fully.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 69	Posted - 2013.04.03 11:33:00 - [46] - Quote I don't see what your problem is, trying to ram a potentially negative feature down someone elses throat. Its unacceptable that someone be forced to listen to someone elses ranting, music, babies, body noises and then try to figure out how to disable it. If someone wants to listen to you rant and complain at them then they will turn on their mic and listen. If anything, make sure the enchanced tutorials go over how to turn your mic on and off and gives you a 1 sentence statement that says, "Oh Hai, being able to communicate may help improve teamwork, results vary"
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2365	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:11:00 - [47] - Quote So just to defend my point a little... Voice on by default? Obvious. This just makes sense. PTT off by default? Why are you arguing? Most annoying blue dots don't turn their mics on instantly, because they're idiots. If they don't turn their mic on, they won't be annoying you. Also, and more importantly, if they're that bad, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A MUTE OPTION. First, ask them to shut up. If they don't, mute them. And for those arguing that swapping it is unfair on those who want it off, voice on is the industry standard for basically every current-gen console game that isn't DUST. The majority of multiplayer console games - not even just FPS games - default to having voice chat turned on. The majority of console games ALSO have no PTT support at all, let alone defaulting to it being off. There are enough PTT-enabled games for it to be reasonable either way, but I'd rather see it off by default than on, because it's more standard for a console game to not have PTT options at all than to have it default to being turned on. Also, because the standard is so familiar to players, when you don't hear voices, the immediate assumption is that the game doesn't support voice. When you DO hear voices and would rather not, there's no rational person who would immediately assume that the game doesn't give you a "disable" option, but the reverse assumption makes sense with the way almost every multiplayer game with voice chat funcitonality has ever worked in the history of gaming consoles.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 70	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:08:00 - [48] - Quote Let me ask you this. When you started this game, did you not know that it had voice support? Or, did you understand it had voice support and you had to activate it? Your statement says the immediate assumption is that if it isn't there that you assume it doesn't have voice support. I am quite sure all those blueberries out there know there is voice support for this game. They just don't have it turned on. Considering the vast majority of people seem to have it turned off most the time, I fail to see why it should be activated. When I started playing this game, I knew there was voice. And I didn't want it. I turned it on because I was curious and game after game would just be some random guy munching on potato chips, every time. The only time I enjoyed voice support was when I got into a corp.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2366	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:21:00 - [49] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Let me ask you this. When you started this game, did you not know that it had voice support? Or, did you understand it had voice support and you had to activate it? Your statement says the immediate assumption is that if it isn't there that you assume it doesn't have voice support. I am quite sure all those blueberries out there know there is voice support for this game. They just don't have it turned on. Considering the vast majority of people seem to have it turned off most the time, I fail to see why it should be activated. When I started playing this game, I knew there was voice. And I didn't want it. I turned it on because I was curious and game after game would just be some random guy munching on potato chips, every time. The only time I enjoyed voice support was when I got into a corp. I've had several friends start playing the game, and immediately ask me in our PSN chat "does this game not have voice?" I knew there was voice, because like almost every other game I've ever played, I researched before picking it up. If voice doesn't just work, most console gamers assume it isn't there. If a game DOES support voice and you don't want it, most people assume they're going to have to disable it. If you don't want voice, then you're in the minority anyway, and default settings should cater to the majority, not the minority (as long as the minority is catered to OPTIONALLY, as in this case with a "disable" option). Also, potato chip guy is a perfect example of why there's a MUTE FUNCTION.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 71	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:29:00 - [50] - Quote I actually don't know if I am in the minority or not. Most people probably won't ever open a forum page ever, so those who have signed onto this may be the minority. I don't know. However I made my point. You made yours. Good conversation.

Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 8	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:48:00 - [51] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Dust 514 is a game in which teamwork is important to success, and communication is very important (if not vital) for teamwork. With this in mind, it doe not make sense why voice chat is set off by default. I have encountered many before in text chat complaining that their voice chat not working because they expect it to be set on by default (as it should be). This leads to unnecessary confusion for new players to deal with when the game is already hard enough for newbies to get a full grasp of. Please have it set on by default. This is a really old issue, and its not a huge task. Its about time this gets resolved. EDIT: This also Garrett Blacknova wrote: Also, push to talk should be off by default, and team chat should be the default channel on entering a battle. Oh this again, Well, wth. +1 People NEED to hear their team mates on pub games. Those bluebarries... :\| Llan Heindell.


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