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Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 174	Posted - 2012.12.20 21:54:00 - [31] - Quote I like the glare.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.20 22:47:00 - [32] - Quote You can have the glare if you want, I'm just saying there is technology to eliminate it. That's a good point about our view being projected on the inside of our helmet rather than being a direct view. Examine the assault suit to the left and you will see it's designed that way, making it trivial to process out the gare and dampen the direct representation of the sun. Think about it for a moment and you realize it must work that way or the briefest flash of a laser rifle in your face would yeild permanent blindness. That would be even more effective than killing your opponent as he would still be around and ineffective rather than on his way to respawning, and you would only need a fraction of the energy required to melt through his armor.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 00:43:00 - [33] - Quote yea im really wishing for the source engine right about now, much better at handling dynamic lighting
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.12.26 00:47:00 - [34] - Quote we need to buff the glare...make it more realistic, tbh
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:19:00 - [35] - Quote If the glare isn't automatically filtered out from our suit projections I want flash grenades. It would be a great support weapon to be able to blind everyone within a certain radius who happens to be looking in its direction.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:37:00 - [36] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Skihids wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics. Dude, think about it. If it blocks direct sunlight do you think it would let anything else in? And unless you have a 100% computer image in front your eyes and we are not really looking out the visor then YES you get sunlight. See NASA buddy, gold lens cover to not see direct sunlight in space. But can you look directly into the sun with it... NO. ohhh right I forgot no one in the future has those awesome things called eye lids, eye lashes, or iris(no I am not going to include the Purkinje effect). If you mix these with polarized lenses(to eliminate glare) you can have the sun, hell a god damn super sun) in your field of view and still see perfectly clearly. And thats the low tech version, never mind using something like smart glasses that would only darken the areas it needed to.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:38:00 - [37] - Quote I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:43:00 - [38] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Skihids wrote: Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics. Dude, think about it. If it blocks direct sunlight do you think it would let anything else in? And unless you have a 100% computer image in front your eyes and we are not really looking out the visor then YES you get sunlight. See NASA buddy, gold lens cover to not see direct sunlight in space. But can you look directly into the sun with it... NO. Actually, the idea of something that can adjust from totally transparent to totally opaque (like a super-transition lens), but is controlled by an internal computer that only opaques out certain parts of the visor would work. It would basically be like putting your hand out in front of your face - you'd still get a bit of glare shining around the opaque areas, and you'd have a big black spot in the way of your vision, but it would be better than trying to stare into direct sunlight and find your target. And it's bordering on believable near-future sci-fi tech, so it's conceivable that something like this could exist in New Eden. Ok, +1 for thinking outside the box and coming back with an intelligent rebuttal. But black spot or glare... hmm lol 1) polarization eliminates glare with little loss of ambient light 2) you wouldn't have a black spot where the sun is, just a reduction in brightness to within the 100:1 static contrast ratio of the eye
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:44:00 - [39] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: we need to buff the glare...make it more realistic, tbh you mean by having your eyes actualy adapt to it.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:47:00 - [40] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. it adds nothing to the game its simply anoying and is to situational to use tactical in any meaningful way. hell even cheese **** redline snipers cant use it to their advantage.

fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:50:00 - [41] - Quote Skihids wrote: You can have the glare if you want, I'm just saying there is technology to eliminate it. That's a good point about our view being projected on the inside of our helmet rather than being a direct view. Examine the assault suit to the left and you will see it's designed that way, making it trivial to process out the gare and dampen the direct representation of the sun. Think about it for a moment and you realize it must work that way or the briefest flash of a laser rifle in your face would yeild permanent blindness. That would be even more effective than killing your opponent as he would still be around and ineffective rather than on his way to respawning, and you would only need a fraction of the energy required to melt through his armor. well said sir. Although apparently the minmatar only care about keeping one eye safe those crazy bastards.
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2012.12.26 01:56:00 - [42] - Quote the sun is blinding in eve, and In dust. I hate the ******* sun. stop it. please.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 02:06:00 - [43] - Quote tada I want one
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.12.26 02:09:00 - [44] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW Originally I was going to say that I don't really care what happens to it, but after reading this, I completely agree with it being here. It's just so **** cool now! Besides, it's not like one side is immune to it or that you'll always be starting out on the same side of the map.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.26 02:10:00 - [45] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. speakin of learning u learn how to use that Balac yet?
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.26 02:16:00 - [46] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW Originally I was going to say that I don't really care what happens to it, but after reading this, I completely agree with it being here. It's just so ** cool now! Besides, it's not like one side is immune to it or that you'll always be starting out on the same side of the map. Ive been arguing to get rid of it and why but hell If they would just treat it like the source engine does I wouldn't care, that's dynamic lighting and that's engaging, not this stupid, my character is too dumb to use his ***** eyelids, iris, and sun glasses, bullshit
William HBonney Imperfects Negative-Feedback 318	Posted - 2012.12.26 02:41:00 - [47] - Quote Having glare makes no sense and really doesn't add tactical advantage because you never know if the glare is the real reason you won the gun battle. Second is why are you guys even thinking that we are veiwing the environment with our human eyes? Our eyes are so flawed and prone to illusion that it would make more sense to have a virtual image of the landscape fed into our brains....which actually wouldn't be virtual at all. This is science fiction yet we fail to truely think outside the box. Our guns shouldn't have scopes at all...those physical optical enhancements are unneeded when you can have a direct feed into your gun giving all the information into you brain. Ads? Nope not "really " it is the ability to magnify the image and "scope " in. It is sad that ccp wants to hold onto such archaic ideas about future warfare.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:15:00 - [48] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. it adds nothing to the game its simply anoying and is to situational to use tactical in any meaningful way. hell even cheese **** redline snipers cant use it to their advantage. What are you talking about that it adds nothing to the game?! If you stop sitting in one place and learn how to move to a more tactical position,then maybe you would see the advantages of it,instead of sitting with the sun in your face and complaining about how much is sucks when you die because you can't see. Again,more people are trying to make this game easy to play,instead of rising to the challenges that it brings.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:40:00 - [49] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. it adds nothing to the game its simply anoying and is to situational to use tactical in any meaningful way. hell even cheese ** redline snipers cant use it to their advantage. What are you talking about that it adds nothing to the game?! If you stop sitting in one place and learn how to move to a more tactical position,then maybe you would see the advantages of it,instead of sitting with the sun in your face and complaining about how much is sucks when you die because you can't see. Again,more people are trying to make this game easy to play,instead of rising to the challenges that it brings.** the irony here is world class
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:46:00 - [50] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: What are you talking about that it adds nothing to the game?! If you stop sitting in one place and learn how to move to a more tactical position,then maybe you would see the advantages of it,instead of sitting with the sun in your face and complaining about how much is sucks when you die because you can't see. Again,more people are trying to make this game easy to play,instead of rising to the challenges that it brings. Oi! If we are gonna talk about realism, then I should be able to forward rolls, dive over obstacles, slide down ladders, take pot shots climbing ladders. Snipers should not be able to crouch and take pot shots at people. Sniper sniples should have bipod and snipers should crouch when they snipe. ARs should not have just iron sights. They should have mods like stabilitity mods, range scopes, red dots and flash lights. We should be able to activate our dampners any time. Heck if I jump the air and wanna activate my dampners I should be able to do so. Blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda! *** moan * moan *** moan etc etc etc. The bottom line is you cant play the CCP got one thing real and not the rest. Either they get everything or the dont. There is a glare problem and its only one sided. Either give me my friggin sunshades or eclipse the sun. PS: I want flashlights for the nighttime maps

William HBonney Imperfects Negative-Feedback 318	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:47:00 - [51] - Quote Hmmm that makes mw think if there was a bunch of "****** " things in this game we shouldn't want them changed but rise to the challenge.?
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:56:00 - [52] - Quote Fix game ... Not glare.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.26 15:59:00 - [53] - Quote Firestorm Zulu wrote: Fix game ... Not glare. Actually the gameplay is pretty smooth right now. I will take smooth gameplay any day. And you can create a separate topic for "fix game". This is a "fix glare" topic. Just my 0.02 GTFO
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.26 16:39:00 - [54] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. it adds nothing to the game its simply anoying and is to situational to use tactical in any meaningful way. hell even cheese ** redline snipers cant use it to their advantage. What are you talking about that it adds nothing to the game?! If you stop sitting in one place and learn how to move to a more tactical position,then maybe you would see the advantages of it,instead of sitting with the sun in your face and complaining about how much is sucks when you die because you can't see. Again,more people are trying to make this game easy to play,instead of rising to the challenges that it brings.** the irony here is world class Well explain how,instead of throwing out a blanketed statement.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.26 17:12:00 - [55] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I swear,people will complain about every thing,if given enough time. I agree that the glare is annoying and have been killed because of it,but I've killed just as much because of it as well. It's obvious that the detractors of the direct sunlight haven't learned how to use it to their advantage,and to that I say let there be light. And while you can't see because of the sunlight,I'll continue to shoot you in the face. it adds nothing to the game its simply anoying and is to situational to use tactical in any meaningful way. hell even cheese ** redline snipers cant use it to their advantage. What are you talking about that it adds nothing to the game?! If you stop sitting in one place and learn how to move to a more tactical position,then maybe you would see the advantages of it,instead of sitting with the sun in your face and complaining about how much is sucks when you die because you can't see. Again,more people are trying to make this game easy to play,instead of rising to the challenges that it brings.** the irony here is world class Well explain how,instead of throwing out a blanketed statement. well if i gotta spell it out for u sure ur the same guy that got killed repeatedly along with ur boy cody constantly and started cryin how ur Balac should automatically mean u would win those gunfights, ur boy cody even went so far as to call me a cheater cuz i constantly killed u 2 in 1v2s so ur statement of rising to the challenge instead of complaining when u die and tryin to make things easy applies to u, no disrespect just sayin the irony here is world class
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2012.12.26 17:16:00 - [56] - Quote Lmao. This is a signature of EVE. When you look at stars there from close range those are literally blinding. CCP likes shiny objects.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.26 17:50:00 - [57] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: well if i gotta spell it out for u sure ur the same guy that got killed repeatedly along with ur boy cody constantly and started cryin how ur Balac should automatically mean u would win those gunfights, ur boy cody even went so far as to call me a cheater cuz i constantly killed u 2 in 1v2s so ur statement of rising to the challenge instead of complaining when u die and tryin to make things easy applies to u, no disrespect just sayin the irony here is world class But did I say that something should be changed? Nope! All I did was ask you how you were able to survive and what fit you were running,when the first encounter with my GAR-21,you got dropped in like three shots. You never answered my question,and always dodged it.You could have just as easily said that you didn't want to share your loadout specs and left it at that.I was trying to figure out how your mid tier gun was ripping through 401 shield,and my meta level 10 gun wasn't killing you as fast. So back to the issue at hand,which has nothing to do with that situation nor makes anything ironic,again,you and others want to make the game more easy for you to suit your play style.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.26 17:55:00 - [58] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: You never answered my question,and always dodged it.You could have just as easily said that you didn't want to share your loadout specs and left it at that.I was trying to figure out how your mid tier gun was ripping through 401 shield,and my meta level 10 gun wasn't killing you as fast. Numbz is just starting to get decent . He has a long way to go IMHO .
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.26 19:15:00 - [59] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: well if i gotta spell it out for u sure ur the same guy that got killed repeatedly along with ur boy cody constantly and started cryin how ur Balac should automatically mean u would win those gunfights, ur boy cody even went so far as to call me a cheater cuz i constantly killed u 2 in 1v2s so ur statement of rising to the challenge instead of complaining when u die and tryin to make things easy applies to u, no disrespect just sayin the irony here is world class But did I say that something should be changed? Nope! All I did was ask you how you were able to survive and what fit you were running,when the first encounter with my GAR-21,you got dropped in like three shots. You never answered my question,and always dodged it.You could have just as easily said that you didn't want to share your loadout specs and left it at that.I was trying to figure out how your mid tier gun was ripping through 401 shield,and my meta level 10 gun wasn't killing you as fast. So back to the issue at hand,which has nothing to do with that situation nor makes anything ironic,again,you and others want to make the game more easy for you to suit your play style. seeing as i ACTUALLY corp battle and WANT competition i do believe i dont want to make the game easier nice try tho suit my playstyle? thats lulzy considering im more versatile than most ppl on this game since i use almost all light weapons, smgs and i also tank so yea try again PS: wanting to make the game easy is what u wanted when u said after that match that ur GAR-21 should automatically win u fights against a lower tier weapon.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.26 19:18:00 - [60] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: well if i gotta spell it out for u sure ur the same guy that got killed repeatedly along with ur boy cody constantly and started cryin how ur Balac should automatically mean u would win those gunfights, ur boy cody even went so far as to call me a cheater cuz i constantly killed u 2 in 1v2s so ur statement of rising to the challenge instead of complaining when u die and tryin to make things easy applies to u, no disrespect just sayin the irony here is world class But did I say that something should be changed? Nope! All I did was ask you how you were able to survive and what fit you were running,when the first encounter with my GAR-21,you got dropped in like three shots. You never answered my question,and always dodged it.You could have just as easily said that you didn't want to share your loadout specs and left it at that.I was trying to figure out how your mid tier gun was ripping through 401 shield,and my meta level 10 gun wasn't killing you as fast. So back to the issue at hand,which has nothing to do with that situation nor makes anything ironic,again,you and others want to make the game more easy for you to suit your play style. seeing as i ACTUALLY corp battle and WANT competition i do believe i dont want to make the game easier nice try tho suit my playstyle? thats lulzy considering im more versatile than most ppl on this game since i use almost all light weapons, smgs and i also tank so yea try again And as everyone can see YET AGAIN,still didn't answer my question from what,three weeks ago now? Your argument has no merit to me anymore.



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