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Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:41:00 - [1] - Quote srsly........CCP.....take out the bs sun glare im wearing a futuristic suit but i can get blinded by glare....... another thing dunno if yall play that map at all at the office but it kinda makes it very annoyin to play on the side with the glare #justsayin i know the kiddies here all want to feel "immersed" an **** but its annoyin.....get rid of it. kthnx
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:42:00 - [2] - Quote Afraid someone is hiding in the glare?
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:44:00 - [3] - Quote seriously our helmet's don't have sunglasses mode?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:45:00 - [4] - Quote What you said about the suit contradicts removing glare as lowering immersion- lowering glare would improve immersion because our suits don't suck. Even my minmatar suits have sunglasses tapped to a string I can pull down whenever I want.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2012.12.20 17:46:00 - [5] - Quote A sunglass mode would be nice ! But I don't want to take it off
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:00:00 - [6] - Quote 200k plus years in the future, we do not have transition visors! I guess my glasses are super futuristic!
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote Okay I am not immersed but again we a fighting on barren waste lands. These planets are all but destroyed really just shells we suck the life out of to make stuff(well at least that is what they will be when the game releases). So there is no ozone no green house gasses no nothing to protect it from any kinda ray that would from a sun that is that freaking close to a planet(litterally look at that thing it is huge in the sky). Sorry you have to forgive me I am one of those kiddies who likes flavor to the game that I am playing. Also good games earlier Mavado couldn't ever get on you guys side but it was still fun playing yall.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:06:00 - [8] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: srsly........CCP.....take out the bs sun glare im wearing a futuristic suit but i can get blinded by glare....... another thing dunno if yall play that map at all at the office but it kinda makes it very annoyin to play on the side with the glare #justsayin i know the kiddies here all want to feel "immersed" an **** but its annoyin.....get rid of it. kthnx +1 I always forget to mention that.......there's no reason for the glare. I can understand if it reflected the exact time of day in real life but it doesn't. There's no reason for glare and only one side of the map is affected.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:08:00 - [9] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: srsly........CCP.....take out the bs sun glare im wearing a futuristic suit but i can get blinded by glare....... another thing dunno if yall play that map at all at the office but it kinda makes it very annoyin to play on the side with the glare #justsayin i know the kiddies here all want to feel "immersed" an **** but its annoyin.....get rid of it. kthnx +1 I always forget to mention that.......there's no reason for the glare. I can understand if it reflected the exact time of day in real life but it doesn't. There's no reason for glare and only one side of the map is affected. True if they keep it allow it to affect both sides equally not just one side. By sides I mean usually one team in skirmish.
StealthReborn L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 14	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:10:00 - [10] - Quote Our suits > Sun? No.

Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:18:00 - [11] - Quote StealthReborn wrote: Our suits > Sun? No. Visors able to block the tiny amount energy producing the glare when it is billions of times less powerful than the laser energy attempting to melt your face? Yes
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:36:00 - [12] - Quote this could be a planet with a sun much closer than ours, earth, so even with sunglasses that may be the amount of light thaat still passes through the visor... but to be quite honest i like it it actually adds another tactical dynamic to gameplay no different than pilots in real life must contend with even with sunglasses or visors on their helmets. use it to your advantage i like it my .02 isk
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.12.20 18:49:00 - [13] - Quote Oh, you wish to equip sunglasses? That will be about $120 worth of AUR please. $60 for each eye. Available in a DUST 514 Marketplace near you.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 19:57:00 - [14] - Quote First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:05:00 - [15] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW That's no excuse to not change an annoying aspect of the map
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:06:00 - [16] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW LOL this response right here. so u hinder one sides ability to see for a visual immersion effect this game is so competitive gameplay > realism
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:07:00 - [17] - Quote Leave the glare alone!! If you want to moan about OP glare then take a look at bf3, all those dumb dust spots on the screen etc etc on top of sun glare and artificial light glare is just ridiculous. But leave the glare here alone. How can you say the glare is OP? Ever been on a planet with as many close proximity suns and planets? Nope, our sun is......what.....600 mil miles away or something like that? Now take a look at the star map and look how close alot if the planets are to their suns, on top of the fact that there's no clouds in the sky to filter the sun light on some planets, i think the glare is awesome.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:14:00 - [18] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW LOL this response right here. so u hinder one sides ability to see for a visual immersion effect this game is so competitive gameplay > realism Its not just one side getting being hindered its everyone that turns that direction will get that same direct sun light effect. Yes, Ill take realism that goes that extra step to be different then the same BS that we have had for years in COD, BF. CCP is going for full immersion into the New Eden universe. If we were in battle and the sun was up and facing us, we would be having these issues. Sorry but Ill take Realism > over kids game-play mode.. I've played enough of those over the years. I came to Dust to see what the next great step up in the FPS gaming could do, adding Lightning effects, sun effects, soon weather effects to each planet will make Dust a unique experience. Also I think you are QQ'ing for the sake of attention rather then trying to effect the game. But thats just my opinion.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:21:00 - [19] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW That's no excuse to not change an annoying aspect of the map Actually it is. :)
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:24:00 - [20] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW That's no excuse to not change an annoying aspect of the map Actually it is. :) I actually agree with sleepy - for sake of gameplay realism can take a step back. A small one.

Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 71	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:30:00 - [21] - Quote Can we buy some Oakleys for the mercs? I'd use Aurum.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:36:00 - [22] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW That's no excuse to not change an annoying aspect of the map Actually it is. :) I actually agree with sleepy - for sake of gameplay realism can take a step back. A small one. Then we agree to disagree (rare in the forums). You prefer to not have it, I think its a cool effect. Have I died from it, yes. But Ive also used to my advantage many, many times.
Myles Aarne Amarrican Ground Forces I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 22	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: our sun is......what.....600 mil miles away or something like that? >.< 1 a.u., or about 93 million miles, or about 150 million kilometers, or a bit over eight light munutes, or -â-ä+¦+¦+¦-ë++ ++-à-ü+¦+¦+¦+¦-é -ä+¦-ä-ü+¦+¦++-â+¦+¦-é +¦+¦+¦ +++¦-ä-ë+¦+¦-â++-à-ü+¦+¦-é (804,000,000 stadia, using 185-190m / stadium.) Don't make me go furlongs per fortnight... But I agree that the glare is OK. And I am glad that we weren't talking what I first thought we were: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Glare_crust
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:46:00 - [24] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics.
A TASTY SANDWICH Algintal Core Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:46:00 - [25] - Quote I too have been on both ends of the glare. I still prefer it be there. Glare is something that one would expect if the sun is close enough too almost touch. I prefer it stay. It adds another dimension to the game.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:50:00 - [26] - Quote Skihids wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: First off we are talking about two separate things. Direct Sun light is what we are seeing, and it does not matter what type of sun glasses or shield (see NASA visor) can block direct sunlight. Sorry but if you look at the sun, any sun on any planet you will not be able to see and eventually burn your eyes out. Glare is sun light or any light source reflecting off another object. Examples are snow, glass, cement etc. This can be blocked by adding a polarized lens, that acts like a venetian blind and blocks glare from hitting your eyes. What happens on that one map is direct sunlight hitting you from one side. While it is kinda annoying, it is a really great effect in game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but CCP actually did it correctly and nothing can block direct sun light. DPGäó FTW Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics. Dude, think about it. If it blocks direct sunlight do you think it would let anything else in? And unless you have a 100% computer image in front your eyes and we are not really looking out the visor then YES you get sunlight. See NASA buddy, gold lens cover to not see direct sunlight in space. But can you look directly into the sun with it... NO.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.12.20 20:50:00 - [27] - Quote Silly Mercs, CCP can't control the SUN.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 21:09:00 - [28] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Skihids wrote: Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics. Dude, think about it. If it blocks direct sunlight do you think it would let anything else in? And unless you have a 100% computer image in front your eyes and we are not really looking out the visor then YES you get sunlight. See NASA buddy, gold lens cover to not see direct sunlight in space. But can you look directly into the sun with it... NO. Actually, the idea of something that can adjust from totally transparent to totally opaque (like a super-transition lens), but is controlled by an internal computer that only opaques out certain parts of the visor would work. It would basically be like putting your hand out in front of your face - you'd still get a bit of glare shining around the opaque areas, and you'd have a big black spot in the way of your vision, but it would be better than trying to stare into direct sunlight and find your target. And it's bordering on believable near-future sci-fi tech, so it's conceivable that something like this could exist in New Eden.
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.12.20 21:21:00 - [29] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Skihids wrote: Nothing can block direct sunlight? So we shouldn't have any shadows at all because nothing can stop that sunlight from shining right through every single obect. Of course you recognize that as absurd. Opaque objects are all around us. So it is simple to posit a visor that can selectively opaque two spots on the visor such that it would prevent the direct light from shining into each eye. I'm pretty sure somone could cobble that together from current technology with something like an LCD visor, a light sensor, and a bit of electronics. Dude, think about it. If it blocks direct sunlight do you think it would let anything else in? And unless you have a 100% computer image in front your eyes and we are not really looking out the visor then YES you get sunlight. See NASA buddy, gold lens cover to not see direct sunlight in space. But can you look directly into the sun with it... NO. Actually, the idea of something that can adjust from totally transparent to totally opaque (like a super-transition lens), but is controlled by an internal computer that only opaques out certain parts of the visor would work. It would basically be like putting your hand out in front of your face - you'd still get a bit of glare shining around the opaque areas, and you'd have a big black spot in the way of your vision, but it would be better than trying to stare into direct sunlight and find your target. And it's bordering on believable near-future sci-fi tech, so it's conceivable that something like this could exist in New Eden. Ok, +1 for thinking outside the box and coming back with an intelligent rebuttal. But black spot or glare... hmm lol
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.20 21:35:00 - [30] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Ok, +1 for thinking outside the box and coming back with an intelligent rebuttal. But black spot or glare... hmm lol Black spot is only blindness where the black spot is. Glare from looking at the sun is blindness EVERYWHERE.



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