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Skihids wrote:

Sentient Archon wrote:

Skihids wrote:

"I'm so leet that I should be able to take down any group of four no matter who they are and if I can't then it's because they are using OP weapons."

I have never claimed to be a leet playa or any of that sort. What I am saying is when in CQC situations of any situation that involves cover, if you are in a position where you are surrounded by more than one red dot, there is something you can do to get out of it.

However when it comes to MDS, all the MD user has to do is shoot the MD anywhere close to the enemy. You dont even have to shoot it at the enemy! You can shoot the wall, the ground, the CRU , the supply depot, heck you can shoot your own teammate and the enemy can get damaged from it. There are no penalties and there is no skill involved in it. As long as the shell hits anywhere close to the enemy it does damage.

Where is the skill in that? Where is the AOD in that?

Ok, that's more specific.

I think the issue is that the MD is an AOE weapon and you just can't defeat them using the same tactics you would use against line of sight weapons like an AR. You can't dance with them up close because they will step on your feet. Now you could do that one on one as your superior RoF should tear through the MD's suit in less time than it would take him to take you down, but four dance partners with huge feet are going to be too much.

The solution to that is not to engage a group of MD's the same way you would engage a group of AR users. Don't use cover that has a wall behind it or is too narrow to let you avoid the splash. Lure them out where the terrain is to your advantage or obtain a height advantage over them instead. MD's have both advantages and disadvantages.

Hitting prey hiding behind inadequate cover is the main strength of a MD. Don't hate it because you gave it every advantage.
Play to your strength and their weakness.

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Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.19 21:43:00 - [61] - Quote Skihids wrote: Don't hate it because you gave it every advantage. I dont hate it;- Im using it
Finn Kempers BetaMax. 222	Posted - 2012.12.19 22:15:00 - [62] - Quote [quote=Sentient ArchonThey are all in the same spot. 4 of them. The max kills anyone had was 3. They werent even contributing to the game.[/quote] Last time I checked, killing someone is contributing. By killing them, they cannot kill a friend or take an objective or defend one. I call that a contribution. Also lol at QQ not being a long range beast, thats what snipers are for :P You AR last build was glitched and that's the truth, Adapt or die.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.19 22:26:00 - [63] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Skihids wrote: Don't hate it because you gave it every advantage. I dont hate it;- Im using it That's the spirit. I think it's a good thing to give each weapon a moment in the sun so CCP can see what they are capable of and I think that's at least part of the purpose of all these changes.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.19 22:30:00 - [64] - Quote How are the new MD sights? Anyway, snipers need to be more adaptable- when I first joined, yes, I was a sniper; however, whenever my team had enough snipers doing area denial, I also had a shotgun scout setup- same basic skills involved, aside from a weapon change.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.12.19 23:19:00 - [65] - Quote Skihids wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Skihids wrote: "I'm so leet that I should be able to take down any group of four no matter who they are and if I can't then it's because they are using OP weapons." I have never claimed to be a leet playa or any of that sort. What I am saying is when in CQC situations of any situation that involves cover, if you are in a position where you are surrounded by more than one red dot, there is something you can do to get out of it. However when it comes to MDS, all the MD user has to do is shoot the MD anywhere close to the enemy. You dont even have to shoot it at the enemy! You can shoot the wall, the ground, the CRU , the supply depot, heck you can shoot your own teammate and the enemy can get damaged from it. There are no penalties and there is no skill involved in it. As long as the shell hits anywhere close to the enemy it does damage. Where is the skill in that? Where is the AOD in that? Ok, that's more specific. I think the issue is that the MD is an AOE weapon and you just can't defeat them using the same tactics you would use against line of sight weapons like an AR. You can't dance with them up close because they will step on your feet. Now you could do that one on one as your superior RoF should tear through the MD's suit in less time than it would take him to take you down, but four dance partners with huge feet are going to be too much. The solution to that is not to engage a group of MD's the same way you would engage a group of AR users. Don't use cover that has a wall behind it or is too narrow to let you avoid the splash. Lure them out where the terrain is to your advantage or obtain a height advantage over them instead. MD's have both advantages and disadvantages. Hitting prey hiding behind inadequate cover is the main strength of a MD. Don't hate it because you gave it every advantage. Play to your strength and their weakness. Skihids has the best point out on this page. I am MD user and have been for almost four months now. The extra 2 rounds is to much in my opinion, one would have been just fine. It was always that one shot that kept me from killing the over powered no kick AR. Well now that the AR is not the king of all trades I really feel that the MD has come to far. Like Skihids said you must learn how to engage a MD now you can't be reckless like before were you had a super range with a scope. Learning how to use cover against a MD is crucial, almost all of my kill last night were from people did not know how to hide or when to roll out. Get an elevated point on us it is by far our weakness and not even funny our weakness, the round won't blow up near you since it arcs. Unless they have amazing gun game with one and get direct hits every shot, not likely. Playing to my strength and learning the arcs and ranges makes me a good MD user, I will get above you every time I even think I can. Deny that or get higher your choice. Last note maybe they should put the extra clip size into the proficiency skill or the operation like the have the scrambler pistol. I am putting this out there because I as a MD user think that having that big of a clip size handed to you on such a great weapon is not fair to the other players, I think you should have to earn that ability. GG everyone posting and even though I think it is OP I will still use it. It is my weapon of choice has been and will be, But I am going to try out the new iron sight so if I kill you with a AR don't think I am switching.


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