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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:46:00 -
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I can't seem to locate where the others are. If iron sights are the only option....then I'll return to this beta when they add them. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:47:00 -
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I don't want iron sights in my sci-fi. Optional, sure, why not? Mandatory? HELL NO! |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:51:00 -
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All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
151
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:53:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Same here |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:56:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to.
There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.12.18 14:59:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game I hope it's a bug, PLEASE be a bug!
If not then the KBM players have won
Might as well just hip fire from now on. No shooting from range any more. Watch those ISK disappear faster.
The Killswitch is still advertised in store with a scope but when I tried it... poxxy ironsights.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:03:00 -
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Can i haz your stuff? |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:03:00 -
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They probably did this to add a new content later on, maybe scope attachments? |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:06:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Can i haz your stuff? NOBODY getz my stuff, least of all you Sir Snake (hahaha!)
What if they replaced your sights with iron ones???
You would be the first to QQ!! |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:06:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I don't want iron sights in my sci-fi. Optional, sure, why not? Mandatory? HELL NO! I agree, I know a number of players prefer the iron sights, but I'm not one of them. I would much prefer the old scope. I guess I'll have to practice with the iron sights for now though. |
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:17:00 -
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Got a camera sight on my Tactical Assault Rifle but the recoil is just ridiculous on it... |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:20:00 -
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i would only presume they are forcing people to use them like those dark days when we were forced with the instant battle and couldn't choose between skirmish and ambush, so they can do mass testing and then bring the old ones back some time or implement the customization |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:29:00 -
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I think shifting to ironsights is a deliberate and planned move to prepare for the addition of the customisation system, where we'll have a selection of scope options. |
LXicon
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Got a camera sight on my Tactical Assault Rifle but the recoil is just ridiculous on it...
so, it's just the standard assault rifle that has iron sights?
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:32:00 -
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ironsight is only for exile and breach AR. Or so i've heard. all other AR should have the camera sight. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:44:00 -
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N,o tactical rifles are the only ones with camera sights...all others have iron sights. |
Vexen Krios
Doomheim
95
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:49:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:ironsight is only for exile and breach AR. Or so i've heard. all other AR should have the camera sight.
yupp all the assault rifles including the proto all have iron sights...i dont like it...but ill learn to use it. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.12.18 16:27:00 -
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Poo I never like iron sights in any game. Hopefully this is only part of the test of a gun customization system because irons suck so badly. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.18 16:31:00 -
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The real shame is they used PISTOL iron sights for an assault rifle. If they used a nice open sight that was actually useful it would be different. |
Aotherea
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.12.18 16:32:00 -
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they prolly gonna add actual scope later with ironsight combo like other shooters, this looks like prototype more to me, but looks a lot better than floating camera from prev build |
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Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.12.18 16:35:00 -
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I'll add my two cents as another Duster whom hates ironsights in all FPS games. |
Traky78
What The French
115
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Posted - 2012.12.18 16:40:00 -
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So we don't have choice ?? Ironsight kitten |
Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:10:00 -
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deal with the changes its not hard to kill like in previous build |
SATORI CORUSCANTi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:18:00 -
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Kaeralli Sturmovos wrote:deal with the changes its not hard to kill like in previous build "Deal with it" is not a solution. It should go without saying that we're testing and if we don't like something, it needs to be made known. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
145
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:20:00 -
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As i said in another topic not a big fan of iron sight's or being forced to only use an iron sight |
Aeden Crystoli III
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:23:00 -
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They'll probably implement the ability to purchase skill upgrades or equipment that is different scopes. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:27:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Loving the Iron Sights! |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:33:00 -
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I think keeping iron sights as a base weapon feature makes sense, if and only if scopes are provided either as an attachment(hopefully an attachment that doesn't take a module slot because that would be dumb) but rather a slot for weapon attachments, like camera scope, red dot scope, knife, etc, or they simply make variations of the current weapons so if you want a weapon with a scope it will cost a "bit" more isk. I think that brings a bit of versatility and balance to the game . |
David Rivendale
Doomheim
11
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:38:00 -
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Iron sights are better than the scope they had any day imo. But I do hope they implement more practical, tighter scopes for the future on all weapons,except knives obviously I just didnt like how the scope was full screen, it felt somewhat limiting. The scopes in the trailer would be good to see. |
heart u
Doomheim
8
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Posted - 2012.12.18 17:54:00 -
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Replacing the sight on the smg with an iron sight would have made more sense tbh. |
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Sir Petersen
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:11:00 -
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The iron sights are lovely. But I-Śm sure we will have optional sights to chose from sooner that later. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
134
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:33:00 -
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Notice has CCP has remained Mum on the Topic.
I hate it, in fact I am probably going to figure out what game will have my attention until this is sorted out.
I stuck with them thru the nonsense of previous builds, but to do this for no reason to every AR commonly used without including any sort of scope or way to do something different is just like waiting for these webifiers that are supposed to stop tanks from running away as fast.
If you look it is the same iron sight as the one on the Thompson SMG from COD Classic, with the addition of a useless white dot in the center, it is not like I can see where my rounds are hitting without being closer to care. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:50:00 -
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The whole problem with Iron Sights on these guns is.... this is a futuristic shooter. Iron sights should have no place in a futuristic shooter. Feels like I'm back playing Medal of Honor WW2.
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David Rivendale
Doomheim
11
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Posted - 2012.12.18 18:51:00 -
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Has anyone noticed the gun sights look sort of bland and blockish lol. Not complaining, just an observation |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:22:00 -
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Welcome to the wonderful and wierd world of ccp fixes and reasoning. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:25:00 -
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No further changes needed. Its fine how it is now. (start to laugh vicious while wielding a laser rifle WITH A SCOPE ON IT) |
Obama DAT
Doomheim
389
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:36:00 -
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The Laser Rifles are still the same sights from previous build? |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:41:00 -
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Dust 514 is about to turn into 'Lazor Light Show 514' |
Spaceman-Rob
Galactic Alliance 514
64
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:46:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game
Moany little *****. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Got a camera sight on my Tactical Assault Rifle but the recoil is just ridiculous on it...
oh no! |
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VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
135
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:52:00 -
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New ARs make them actually hard to use, no more put dot on enemy form X range away, pop 60 shots in with no kick. Irons make this game much more playable so that ARs are not the do everything weapon, now lazer rifles will take the range weapon status and actually fit in instead of being killed at really long ranges by Tac ARs and others. And yes we will get new scopes eventually ccp has said that before they put in ironsights. Great build CCP. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.12.18 19:54:00 -
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Aeden Crystoli III wrote:They'll probably implement the ability to purchase skill upgrades or equipment that is different scopes.
"Probably" is nothing more than speculation. If they told us where they were going with these things, then it would make more sense and people would understand and "deal with it" like others are proposing. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:00:00 -
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fahrenheitM wrote:Aeden Crystoli III wrote:They'll probably implement the ability to purchase skill upgrades or equipment that is different scopes. "Probably" is nothing more than speculation. If they told us where they were going with these things, then it would make more sense and people would understand and "deal with it" like others are proposing. Check the stickies in the feedback section.
They've specifically stated that there will be weapon customisation, that there's already a system in the works, but it hasn't been implemented in the game engine as yet. |
Marston EV
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:02:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game
then stop being a crybaby! HOW! in ANYWAY does iron sights brake the game for you??? Jesus, do you really aim that much?? half the time people are just hipfiring with the AR anyway, and considering ARs are short to mid-range weapons do you really need a scope anyway?? jeez, how lazy can you get?? In BF3 i used the thermal scopes all the time because they were just that good, but when they nerfed the sh**t out of them did i quite the game??? no!..... i mean really?? whats the point of being a beta tester if your not going to test it?? |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:04:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote: The whole problem with Iron Sights on these guns is.... this is a futuristic shooter. Iron sights should have no place in a futuristic shooter. Feels like I'm back playing Medal of Honor WW2.
+1 |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:14:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:fahrenheitM wrote:Aeden Crystoli III wrote:They'll probably implement the ability to purchase skill upgrades or equipment that is different scopes. "Probably" is nothing more than speculation. If they told us where they were going with these things, then it would make more sense and people would understand and "deal with it" like others are proposing. Check the stickies in the feedback section. They've specifically stated that there will be weapon customisation, that there's already a system in the works, but it hasn't been implemented in the game engine as yet.
That definitely helps. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:16:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game then stop being a crybaby! HOW! in ANYWAY does iron sights brake the game for you??? Jesus, do you really aim that much?? half the time people are just hipfiring with the AR anyway, and considering ARs are short to mid-range weapons do you really need a scope anyway?? jeez, how lazy can you get?? In BF3 i used the thermal scopes all the time because they were just that good, but when they nerfed the sh**t out of them did i quite the game??? no!..... i mean really?? whats the point of being a beta tester if your not going to test it??
Not to be a party pooper, but i think the point was... you could pick another scope in BF3 when that got nerfed.
Alas, all is not lost. Mr. Blacknova has enlightened upon the speakings of CCP toward the customization... now if only to find 'em. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.12.18 20:22:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:The whole problem with Iron Sights on these guns is.... this is a futuristic shooter. Iron sights should have no place in a futuristic shooter. Feels like I'm back playing Medal of Honor WW2. Because it's impossible that anything will be done IN THE FUTURE using a simple, reliable low-tech option instead of something that needs precisely 1.21 gigawatts (pronounced "one point twenty-one jiggawatts") of power or it might spontaneously destroy the space-time continuum.
It would be unthinkable for someone IN THE FUTURE to use the butt of a gun as a club, because that's not an advanced super-high-tech approach to... oh wait. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:10:00 -
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Marston EV wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game then stop being a crybaby! HOW! in ANYWAY does iron sights brake the game for you??? Jesus, do you really aim that much?? half the time people are just hipfiring with the AR anyway, and considering ARs are short to mid-range weapons do you really need a scope anyway?? jeez, how lazy can you get?? In BF3 i used the thermal scopes all the time because they were just that good, but when they nerfed the sh**t out of them did i quite the game??? no!..... i mean really?? whats the point of being a beta tester if your not going to test it??
Speak for yourself if you don't aim, homeboy. CCP needs to be let known if something they've done doesn't make sense. And kudos to you for sticking with BF3 lol
There's no point in testing iron sights, there is no function. Iron sights downgrade the gameplay for me, considerably. I only tolerate them in other games because you can add attachments as you level up. There's no reason to implement iron sights, right now, without attachments.
It is just like tolerating lag and many people don't. Some aspects of the game are deal breakers and iron sights with no options is one for me. So, calm the **** down and stop taking my attitude towards iron sights so personally....as if I'm taking money out your pocket. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
134
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:42:00 -
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I've used that Rifle camera scope since June 6th.
I put up with all the nonsense since then, the invalid suit glitch, the swarms and forges point blank, the hard freezes.
Now my character is pretty much set up for a game that Does not exist. It is not as if there is a system in place to let me Re-task those skill points I apparently wasted for the past 2 months.
Easiest way to show displeasure IS to not play the game, I'm actually reading a book instead of playing this silly mess, after trying 20 games to give the iron sights a chance, I'm done. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.12.18 21:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Burst and Tactical still have scopes. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:18:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:I've used that Rifle camera scope since June 6th.
I put up with all the nonsense since then, the invalid suit glitch, the swarms and forges point blank, the hard freezes.
Now my character is pretty much set up for a game that Does not exist. It is not as if there is a system in place to let me Re-task those skill points I apparently wasted for the past 2 months.
Easiest way to show displeasure IS to not play the game, I'm actually reading a book instead of playing this silly mess, after trying 20 games to give the iron sights a chance, I'm done.
My point exactly....although I am still trying to give the iron sight a go but I don't think I can tolerate it for too long |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Burst and Tactical still have scopes. Yes but there is no dot in the middle of the screen which makes it kinda pointless. |
Corum Irsie
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4
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Posted - 2012.12.19 03:30:00 -
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Good morning Vietnam |
BAM HUSQVARNA
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2012.12.19 11:46:00 -
[55] - Quote
Forced iron sights... What a joke.
Easily the stupidest thing I've come across in quite some time.
And what's with the size if the actual iron sight? It takes up half the screen when aiming down sight.
Thinking of adding this here: http://stupidest.com/ |
UnknowingTea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
21
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Posted - 2012.12.19 15:50:00 -
[56] - Quote
The dark cloud wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Burst and Tactical still have scopes. Yes but there is no dot in the middle of the screen which makes it kinda pointless.
There is a dot. It's just really faint. Look more closely.
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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
202
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:30:00 -
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Not a fan of the iron sights. If this was a WWII game, sure. It's not. I'm cool with them being in because a lot of people prefer them. However, if there isn't eventually an option to add a scope or even remove them all together . . . bleh. Right now they are too large, take up too much of the screen and cover up the guy you are aiming at. Couple that with more kick on the AR and it's poorly implemented currently. ARs needed adjustment but the iron sights need to be redesigned and adjusted for the AR if they are going to be the standard. |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:30:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game
I agree they should not be the only option for sights right now, but the fact is that they are. You ether deal with it or you switch weapons.
What do those eve players say? Adapt or die? Something like that. |
POCKPICKETER
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
3
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:35:00 -
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Anyanka Shadowmane wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:I don't want iron sights in my sci-fi. Optional, sure, why not? Mandatory? HELL NO! I agree, I know a number of players prefer the iron sights, but I'm not one of them. I would much prefer the old scope. I guess I'll have to practice with the iron sights for now though.
HATE IRON SIGHTS, BRING BACK MY ZOOM |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:40:00 -
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if u want zoom you up your gun game and go burst or tac seems pretty balanced imo |
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
966
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Posted - 2012.12.19 16:57:00 -
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You guys can ***** about anything. Personally I like the irons, took a little getting used to but I put the laser down for a night to try them out.
Weapon customization is something I think the devs are interested in, so having stock irons laid out first makes sense. Then you can fit a scope or whatever stuff is available. This is a nice patch, but we are still testing, and we don't have everything switched on yet.
If you don't like the irons this would be a good time to test other weapons, I saw a pile of mass drivers in play last night, hopefully we will see more variety. Two teams of ARs shooting at each other every damn game was getting old.
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:00:00 -
[62] - Quote
i saw a mix of mass drivers, burst, tacs, lasers, smgs, it seemed almost equal. i personally was using a breach AR |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:03:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:You guys can ***** about anything. Personally I like the irons, took a little getting used to but I put the laser down for a night to try them out.
Weapon customization is something I think the devs are interested in, so having stock irons laid out first makes sense. Then you can fit a scope or whatever stuff is available. This is a nice patch, but we are still testing, and we don't have everything switched on yet.
If you don't like the irons this would be a good time to test other weapons, I saw a pile of mass drivers in play last night, hopefully we will see more variety. Two teams of ARs shooting at each other every damn game was getting old.
People are using mass drivers because they are OP and prevent people from firing back. Have a few Corpmates basically dropping mini nukes on people all game. |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:09:00 -
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Rigs will likely be implemented shortly for guns. Give it some time and try another weapon in the mean time.
Im not having any issues with Iron sights. You just have to learn how to shoot with them. The idea is to not see your target instead of seeing them with the camera sight. All you should see is the top of their head.
Just because it takes a remote amount of skill to use, instead of keeping a dot on the person. RDS sights are easy to use/aim, thats why so many people use them. Iron sights need to be balanced/adjusted just as much as any other game feature. Instead of saying OMG they suck give me my old sight back....provide useful feedback.
I prefer tall irons like the m16 in BF3. Its the perfect size sight. I dont like the blocky ones that take up the whole screen. So rather than a giant block you have a small pylon. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:20:00 -
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i don't want to see cam added back to non burst AR's maybe a reflex sight but the cam should stay on the tac and assault, making player choose between super accurate restricted fire or pray and spray but not both.. still ppl will get good at ironsight and make long range kills with it anyway just takes more skill to do. your still rewarded with either system both requiring more skill than the previous full auto with camera. overall good move. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
134
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:35:00 -
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Hey, I am back about 20 pages into the general discussion and about 10 pages back in the Feedback/Requests section..... can someone help me find all these posts saying that ARs need IRON SIGHTS.
Second thing, how do you know if something is OFF in the game, when IT has changed so much from what was accepted as the normal.
It is not like HMG users are just tucking the weapon to the side and running in a diagonal at you; keeping the gun in perfect kill stance for anything in front of them for 5 meters wide by 75m long.... you know once they jump out of the LAV or tank.
(as for going into and out of vehicles, fine for the barbie convertible LAV/ Dropship, just hop into it like the Duke boys, shouldn't take that long, but a person getting into and out of tank should take longer, and it should not be ready to go right out of the gate, you may actually have to start the thing up and that should take some time)
It is not like the laser rifle which gets stronger before never over heating.
I guess all the tank users must have skilled up the turret sharpshooter skills to profiecency level 5 and used the vehicle weapon capacity skill to have more than a few shots.
It is not like you can see where your bullets are going, but a Mass Driver user can actually see the explosions so they can determine if they have to actually move to hit you.
To those saying give the Iron Sights some time....... I ask what type of sdrawkcab-ssa process is this BETA, you friggin start with Iron sights and then go from there, you don't start with the finished product and then go thru everything back to the beginning. This renders the previous months worth of data for the AR's useless. |
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:41:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Michael Cratar wrote:All I can say is learn to use them. I like the iron sights over the scope anyday.
Stop being a yes man....not everything they do is good. I can use them but I choose not to. There's no reason to exclude all for iron sights. I feel like a level 1 player with iron sights. I just won't play the game I agree they should not be the only option for sights right now, but the fact is that they are. You ether deal with it or you switch weapons. What do those eve players say? Adapt or die? Something like that.
I would agree with your statement here if you could switch weapons easily. Instead it will takes weeks most likely to switch into an equivalent weapon to what I was using. |
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:43:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:Hey, I am back about 20 pages into the general discussion and about 10 pages back in the Feedback/Requests section..... can someone help me find all these posts saying that ARs need IRON SIGHTS.
Second thing, how do you know if something is OFF in the game, when IT has changed so much from what was accepted as the normal.
It is not like HMG users are just tucking the weapon to the side and running in a diagonal at you; keeping the gun in perfect kill stance for anything in front of them for 5 meters wide by 75m long.... you know once they jump out of the LAV or tank.
(as for going into and out of vehicles, fine for the barbie convertible LAV/ Dropship, just hop into it like the Duke boys, shouldn't take that long, but a person getting into and out of tank should take longer, and it should not be ready to go right out of the gate, you may actually have to start the thing up and that should take some time)
It is not like the laser rifle which gets stronger before never over heating.
I guess all the tank users must have skilled up the turret sharpshooter skills to profiecency level 5 and used the vehicle weapon capacity skill to have more than a few shots.
It is not like you can see where your bullets are going, but a Mass Driver user can actually see the explosions so they can determine if they have to actually move to hit you.
To those saying give the Iron Sights some time....... I ask what type of sdrawkcab-ssa process is this BETA, you friggin start with Iron sights and then go from there, you don't start with the finished product and then go thru everything back to the beginning. This renders the previous months worth of data for the AR's useless.
I have seen some people asking for it. I personally thought it was dumb but made no comment expecting CCP to know that the majority of players dont want iron sights but that I would be ok with having a choice between the two different sights. However my trust was poorly placed. |
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