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Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote Would really like to play the new build before the world ends.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:27:00 - [2] - Quote Eternal Technique wrote: Would really like to play the new build before the world ends. We will have the new build on 21st. THAT'S why world's ending not because of maya's bu******.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:28:00 - [3] - Quote Eternal Technique wrote: Would really like to play the new build before the world ends. LOL ikr but hey........ SoonGäó
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:38:00 - [4] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Eternal Technique wrote: Would really like to play the new build before the world ends. LOL ikr but hey........ SoonGäó Well, I was looking at my Mayan calendar and noticed it said SoonGäó on the 20th of December.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:46:00 - [5] - Quote What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.12.15 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 18:02:00 - [7] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit. 1) They were not crude, they were a very advanced civilization for there time with greater astronomical knowledge than many European nations. They also had pretty great architecture, mathematical knowledge. The lack of draft animals available for agriculture and other labor made their advancement even more amazing. 2) You are thinking of the Aztecs, who did sacrifices to 1 of the 4 Tezcatlipoca gods (that one's name starts with an H, was acting as the the current sun god for this version of the world) because he needed sacrifices as energy drinks to feed him so he could fight off the star and moon gods trying to kill him (day vs night). Europeans exaggerated accounts of human sacrifice to make them appear like savages, and thus make their conquest more legitimate. No need to insult Mayans.
Tammerion Codex Troopers 7	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:08:00 - [8] - Quote Mayan calendar was based around a 400 day year, not 365. And 5000ish years equates to being off by about 78 years....just sayn'
Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:36:00 - [9] - Quote Once I've heard a merc say 'CCP haz 1337 trollz' I didn't believe him ; now I do.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:45:00 - [10] - Quote Tammerion wrote: Mayan calendar was based around a 400 day year, not 365. And 5000ish years equates to being off by about 78 years....just sayn' Not sure where you're getting this info from, maybe you're thinking of a different civilization, but Mayans used 2 calendersl 1 with 366 days, another with 360 days. I checked 3 sources right now, and never saw any mention of of 400 day years. There are cycles of 400 day years though (a baktun).
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1899	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:48:00 - [11] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit. Too bad they were incredibly intelligent, and we STILL slaughter thousands of people a year for sacrifice, just in a different way. We're quite a ways behind the ancients, in many regards.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 19:55:00 - [12] - Quote I am really worried are just lumping Mesoamerican civilizations together, Aztecs were the ones crazy over sacrifice. Mayans did human sacrifice, but not the a degree that it should be something to automatically associated with them.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.12.15 20:06:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit. Too bad they were incredibly intelligent, and we STILL slaughter thousands of people a year for sacrifice, just in a different way. We're quite a ways behind the ancients, in many regards. If they were really that intelligent, how did their downfall occur?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 20:12:00 - [14] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit. Too bad they were incredibly intelligent, and we STILL slaughter thousands of people a year for sacrifice, just in a different way. We're quite a ways behind the ancients, in many regards. If they were really that intelligent, how did their downfall occur? ... sighs ... So what, you think intelligence guarantees a civilization will always thrive? Do you think the ancient Romans were idiots because their empire collapsed too? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Maya_collapse Just start from here, read some of it, look at some of the references, that is if you're actually interested in the answer, and not just asking just to be contrarian. And once again, in regard to the massive scale human sacrifice, that was Aztecs, not Mayan.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.15 22:11:00 - [15] - Quote Actually, the Mayan Calender is based on 365.XXXX ('X' meaning the decimals) days per year. The modern-day atomic clock is accurate to about 365.XXX0 days per year. The millionth decimal, as per scientists of today, is calculated to be off by a margin of +/- 0.0005. Therefore, even modern scientists have no clue which is most accurate: the Mayan Calendar or ours? The Mayans were no fools. They dedicated their entire lives to understanding how the stars moved. They even back dated their calender to about 3112 BC which is long before their own civilization even began its infancy. What kind of civilization so advanced decides to base their calender on an year or date that happened so long ago? And why create a calendar that will outlast even their own civilization?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.15 22:16:00 - [16] - Quote In relation to sacrifices, I believe the Mayans embraced sacrifice so much that even their own kings were willing to cut their own genitals as a payment to their gods. They even had a sport that is similar to soccer in which the winner, not the loser, would be the one to be sacrificed. To them, death was only the beginning or the continuation of a spiritual journey of the cosmos. Or was that the Aztecs that had that sport? I forgot which one did.
Dust Racer 26 3	Posted - 2012.12.15 23:17:00 - [17] - Quote Our alien overlords are coming back on the 21st, just saying
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.15 23:36:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: In relation to sacrifices, I believe the Mayans embraced sacrifice so much that even their own kings were willing to cut their own genitals as a payment to their gods. They even had a sport that is similar to soccer in which the winner, not the loser, would be the one to be sacrificed. To them, death was only the beginning or the continuation of a spiritual journey of the cosmos. Or was that the Aztecs that had that sport? I forgot which one did. Sacrifice was indeed a large part of Mayan culture, but the massive scale sacrifice of human lives (not just bloodletting or sacrificing monkeys) has been wrongly attributed to them; yes they did do some human sacrifice (as in killing humans, not just wounding), but not to the extent that people seem to think they did. Not really sure, but I know many Mesoamericans had ball games which had greater ceremonial meanings and purposes. I know the Aztecs definitely had one. I think you are right however, sounds like something I heard before.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.16 01:04:00 - [19] - Quote yooooooo this history lesson is all well and nice but lets not stray from the topic shall we.............soooooo CCP...........new build before we all die a horrible death??????
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2012.12.16 01:09:00 - [20] - Quote You didn't see that. I would like to see the new build period.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.12.16 01:48:00 - [21] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. The Mayan calander is just another calender. Just like our calander ends on December 31st and begins all over again on January 1st, the Mayan calander is exactly the same, just on a larger scale. Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2012.12.16 01:52:00 - [22] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: [quote=KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf]embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. LOL that's right!
Lilah Silverstone Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.12.16 01:57:00 - [23] - Quote Ever occur to anyone that maybe the Mayans just got tired of extending their calender? I mean most of our current calenders end in 2099. Unless of course we too have the power to predict such events.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.12.16 02:19:00 - [24] - Quote dust forever, heh
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.16 02:46:00 - [25] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. LOOOOOOOOOL
Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.12.16 03:30:00 - [26] - Quote I'm worried that this end of the world thing will really kill our playerbase.
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.12.16 06:20:00 - [27] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I am really worried are just lumping Mesoamerican civilizations together, Aztecs were the ones crazy over sacrifice. Mayans did human sacrifice, but not the a degree that it should be something to automatically associated with them. Yea, I'm always worried about insulting extinct civilizations. Maybe their ghosts will haunt me because I made a politically incorrect statement generalizing their use of human sacrifices. Nice
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 285	Posted - 2012.12.16 06:23:00 - [28] - Quote By "new build", they meant civilisation.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.16 06:55:00 - [29] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I am really worried are just lumping Mesoamerican civilizations together, Aztecs were the ones crazy over sacrifice. Mayans did human sacrifice, but not the a degree that it should be something to automatically associated with them. Yea, I'm always worried about insulting extinct civilizations. Maybe their ghosts will haunt me because I made a politically incorrect statement generalizing their use of human sacrifices. Nice I'm not worried about dead people being offended, I'm worried about what this misinformation says about the general level of knowledge of people, especially when they really think they know something. Its not abut "political" correctness, its about general correctness, when someone says something which I know to be incorrect it bothers me, and when many people believe that incorrect claim, then it worries me because it shows larger widescale educational problems. Its like how so many US Americans can't find their own country on a map (though in this case its not that severe). Actually, Mayans are still around today. They are a very large ethnic group, and many of them retain the same practices and beliefs as their ancestors. Its impressive how people can keep showing how little they know.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.12.16 08:32:00 - [30] - Quote The Mayan calendar ties to the movement of celestial bodies. The calendar ending is just that, the end of one and start of next. It's when the solar system crosses the galaxies center-line. Albert Einstein found this to happen on same date, but when asked what would happen he answered nothing. Same way nothing happens when you cross the equator or on the solstice or equinox twice each year. It's a trivia thing and something to measure time by is all. In Europe they had doomsday predictions at the year 1000, since they would run out of digits, a minority of Mayans probably had same idea for needing to start the calendar over and we just found the inscription. The majority of the Mayans would probably think it was silly to think the world would end because of the calender running out, same way most in Europe figured they could just add another 1 to the date, or put the m in a different spot since it would have been roman numerals back then.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2012.12.16 10:41:00 - [31] - Quote ProFact: The superstitions of extinct cultures do not dictate reality. Theres a reason why there is a modern empirical science of astronomy, and we arn't all still asking the high preist if our crops will grow this year or whatnot. I'll let you figure out why .
Jack Boost Zarena Family 194	Posted - 2012.12.16 11:00:00 - [32] - Quote http://youtu.be/QY_Gc1bF8ds
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.12.16 12:04:00 - [33] - Quote This and also this(at 6.40) both make that Stats Reset comment a VERY SCARY thought indeed!
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 216	Posted - 2012.12.16 17:06:00 - [34] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. The Mayan calander is just another calender. Just like our calander ends on December 31st and begins all over again on January 1st, the Mayan calander is exactly the same, just on a larger scale. Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. RL Stat Wipe???? WTF..... I just trained Mortgage Payoff Upgrades to V
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.16 17:10:00 - [35] - Quote Lilah Silverstone wrote: Ever occur to anyone that maybe the Mayans just got tired of extending their calender? I mean most of our current calenders end in 2099. Unless of course we too have the power to predict such events. Not to mention their civilization collapsed. Hard to work on something when nobody is left who knows how to do it.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.12.16 19:06:00 - [36] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. The Mayan calander is just another calender. Just like our calander ends on December 31st and begins all over again on January 1st, the Mayan calander is exactly the same, just on a larger scale. Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. RL Stat Wipe???? WTF..... I just trained Mortgage Payoff Upgrades to V Hahahaha +1
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.12.16 19:36:00 - [37] - Quote lol at the argument over minor facts about each culture "these guys reeeaallly like sacrificing human beings. The mayans, yeah, they did it, you know, biweekly and on special occasions, but as a whole they weren't reeeaallly that bloodthirsty. They were kind casual human sacrificers, not like those hardcore aztecs"
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.12.16 20:01:00 - [38] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. The Mayan calander is just another calender. Just like our calander ends on December 31st and begins all over again on January 1st, the Mayan calander is exactly the same, just on a larger scale. Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. RL Stat Wipe???? WTF..... I just trained Mortgage Payoff Upgrades to V Hahahaha +1 Stat reset??? But, but, but I have Lahmborginni at L5, Learjet at L2, Positive cash flow at L5 and Positive cash flow proficiency at L5!! And I have pending Year Vacation in Europe/Australia/Disneyland to be trained until its L5!!
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 12	Posted - 2012.12.16 22:08:00 - [39] - Quote the world not going to end its only a excuse to go crazy killing each other clone
Tyler Hall Algintal Core Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2012.12.16 22:19:00 - [40] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: the world not going to end its only a excuse to go crazy killing each other clone agreed, but the respawn time seems to be much longer.....
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.12.16 23:59:00 - [41] - Quote Dec 21 is OP, it needs nerfed.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 194	Posted - 2012.12.17 00:15:00 - [42] - Quote Can someone help me get out of the bathroom? Please?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.17 00:50:00 - [43] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Can someone help me get out of the bathroom? Please? That's not a bathroom, that's a closet.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2012.12.17 00:53:00 - [44] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end. That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. The Mayan calander is just another calender. Just like our calander ends on December 31st and begins all over again on January 1st, the Mayan calander is exactly the same, just on a larger scale. Hollywood 'end of the world' movies are one of the many contributions to the December 21st theory and should be taken with a pinch of salt, end even if it DOES happen.......embrace it and come to terms with the fact that we would face a major stats reset that would put dust 514 to shame. Game on people. RL Stat Wipe???? WTF..... I just trained Mortgage Payoff Upgrades to V In Italy we've just trained taxes and bad government lvl5
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.12.17 01:28:00 - [45] - Quote but seriously what the kitten, when ccp? : ( not even some new footage to hold us over?
LT Dans Legs Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 72	Posted - 2012.12.17 01:55:00 - [46] - Quote Oh. I thought this thread was gonna be about the new build. Apparently its a discussion about ancient history. Lmao.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.17 02:20:00 - [47] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: Oh. I thought this thread was gonna be about the new build. Apparently its a discussion about ancient history. Lmao. I have finally found you! I have only heard legends of your name- until now.

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