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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:46:00 -
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What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end.
That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 18:02:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:What annoys me about the whole Mayan calender thing is that nothing said the world would end, merely that it was the end of 1 period out of many periods, also its suppose to have happened already since the Mayans didn't account for leap years so the world was already suppose to end.
That aside, I'm very annoyed by the lack of the new build. I'm guessing patch notes will be out by the 21st, and patch out on the following tuesday (Christmas), but I hope its much earlier. Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice? Seems legit.
1) They were not crude, they were a very advanced civilization for there time with greater astronomical knowledge than many European nations. They also had pretty great architecture, mathematical knowledge. The lack of draft animals available for agriculture and other labor made their advancement even more amazing.
2) You are thinking of the Aztecs, who did sacrifices to 1 of the 4 Tezcatlipoca gods (that one's name starts with an H, was acting as the the current sun god for this version of the world) because he needed sacrifices as energy drinks to feed him so he could fight off the star and moon gods trying to kill him (day vs night). Europeans exaggerated accounts of human sacrifice to make them appear like savages, and thus make their conquest more legitimate.
No need to insult Mayans. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:45:00 -
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Tammerion wrote:Mayan calendar was based around a 400 day year, not 365.
And 5000ish years equates to being off by about 78 years....just sayn'
Not sure where you're getting this info from, maybe you're thinking of a different civilization, but Mayans used 2 calendersl 1 with 366 days, another with 360 days. I checked 3 sources right now, and never saw any mention of of 400 day years. There are cycles of 400 day years though (a baktun). |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:55:00 -
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I am really worried are just lumping Mesoamerican civilizations together, Aztecs were the ones crazy over sacrifice. Mayans did human sacrifice, but not the a degree that it should be something to automatically associated with them. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 20:12:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Also, we're basing our belief off of a crude civilization that existed thousands of years ago? That slaughtered thousands of people a year for sacrifice?
Seems legit. Too bad they were incredibly intelligent, and we STILL slaughter thousands of people a year for sacrifice, just in a different way. We're quite a ways behind the ancients, in many regards. If they were really that intelligent, how did their downfall occur?
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So what, you think intelligence guarantees a civilization will always thrive? Do you think the ancient Romans were idiots because their empire collapsed too?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Maya_collapse Just start from here, read some of it, look at some of the references, that is if you're actually interested in the answer, and not just asking just to be contrarian.
And once again, in regard to the massive scale human sacrifice, that was Aztecs, not Mayan. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:In relation to sacrifices, I believe the Mayans embraced sacrifice so much that even their own kings were willing to cut their own genitals as a payment to their gods. They even had a sport that is similar to soccer in which the winner, not the loser, would be the one to be sacrificed. To them, death was only the beginning or the continuation of a spiritual journey of the cosmos. Or was that the Aztecs that had that sport? I forgot which one did.
Sacrifice was indeed a large part of Mayan culture, but the massive scale sacrifice of human lives (not just bloodletting or sacrificing monkeys) has been wrongly attributed to them; yes they did do some human sacrifice (as in killing humans, not just wounding), but not to the extent that people seem to think they did.
Not really sure, but I know many Mesoamericans had ball games which had greater ceremonial meanings and purposes. I know the Aztecs definitely had one. I think you are right however, sounds like something I heard before. |
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Posted - 2012.12.16 06:55:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I am really worried are just lumping Mesoamerican civilizations together, Aztecs were the ones crazy over sacrifice. Mayans did human sacrifice, but not the a degree that it should be something to automatically associated with them. Yea, I'm always worried about insulting extinct civilizations. Maybe their ghosts will haunt me because I made a politically incorrect statement generalizing their use of human sacrifices. Nice
I'm not worried about dead people being offended, I'm worried about what this misinformation says about the general level of knowledge of people, especially when they really think they know something. Its not abut "political" correctness, its about general correctness, when someone says something which I know to be incorrect it bothers me, and when many people believe that incorrect claim, then it worries me because it shows larger widescale educational problems. Its like how so many US Americans can't find their own country on a map (though in this case its not that severe).
Actually, Mayans are still around today. They are a very large ethnic group, and many of them retain the same practices and beliefs as their ancestors. Its impressive how people can keep showing how little they know. |
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