DUST Search - Shotgun is OP!

Reout Karaal wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

To be honest,the biggest problem with shotties in every single shooter is that if the game is laggy,you are deader than dead.

Yeah, try shotgunning on lag. I'm on proto shotty and during lag it sometims does nothing. I'm behind a guy, 2m away, got his head in aim, press R1... nothing, no shot. I start mashing it, but he moved and is now aware of my presence, so I line up another shot, R1 -- NOTHING. He kills me with his AR. My unused shotty rests in the dirt.

It's not like I'm mashing and missing the time slot, I've got a good rhythm feeling, as you get a feel for one-shot-one-kill in a while. It just doesn't fire for a second or so. At all. So please, tell me how deadly they are on lag.

Oh, you meant your lag? Sure, tell me how a weapon that needs to hit you in one single point is awesome when you're just teleporting all over the place along with your hitbox. Unless you're laggy and standing still, but this is still 50/50.

It works best with no lag and against people unaware of their surroundings. Also vs cocky bastards, who think their ADV/PRO will protect them.

The biggest problem with every weapon in dust are people who want to nerf it but have not bothered to test it themselves.

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Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:10:00 - [1] - Quote People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:14:00 - [2] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. true...but, you know...every fps the same problem...so...just try to stay away from shotgunners and try to kill them before they get close...
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:17:00 - [3] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. Pretty sure this is a troll thread but...... Not sure srs. I survive against shotgunners with militia gear. You just have to lokm around, this isn't CoD where you can run in a straight line and expect to just kill everyone with 3 bullets.
Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:17:00 - [4] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. true...but, you know...every fps the same problem...so...just try to stay away from shotgunners and try to kill them before they get close... There is something wrong with the gallente armor, it's hard to hit that bunny hopping toggaf. And when I do, the hits don't register.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:19:00 - [5] - Quote its a shotgun what do u expect tho? maybe its a tad too powerful for militia gear but shotguns are shotguns cqc deliver heavy damage at any range they blow
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:21:00 - [6] - Quote obvious crybaby is obvious. Stop complaining about shotguns cause you barely see them these days and if you do you should get distance and shot the guy. Ever thought about it the other way around? You kill shotgunners from 30 meters away and they have no chance at all to kill you. Hmm i think the AR is the overpowered weapon here dont ya think?
Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:21:00 - [7] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: its a shotgun what do u expect tho? maybe its a tad too powerful for militia gear but shotguns are shotguns cqc deliver heavy damage at any range they blow Ok, but make the gallent armor less laggy and glitchy, when that ******* is in the air, I am at him, shot him, nothing happens.
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2012.12.08 11:32:00 - [8] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. The but hurt is strong with this one.
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 41	Posted - 2012.12.08 12:14:00 - [9] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. Man up and deal with it remember to check your corners and keep your distance. I lost my last Heavy-A/Proto assault FG fit to a militia SG in the back of the head during an epic Tank duel so what I just spawned back in and got on with the match end of. Probably a Troll thread but far to much QQing these days, it's an FPS you will die quite a lot. Heck I only just manage a 1 for 1 KDR these days. Rant over lads. Snag out
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.08 13:43:00 - [10] - Quote I can say Militia Shotguns may need a tweak in damage, but not a nerf or anything ridiculous. Shotguns are great if you can use them well. I can't use them well and so I only ever get kills sneaking up on snipers. I've been using my Krins and Balacs in quite a few pub matches and have lost them to a range of players, but quite a few to shotgun players. If you're brave enough to rush me whilst I'm using that powerhouse of a weapon, I take my hat off to you. Risk V Reward right there.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.12.08 13:51:00 - [11] - Quote This is the 1st game ive played in which shotguns do what they are ment to do That is blast you apart at CQC or pointblank range and be ******* useless at any other range
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.08 13:54:00 - [12] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: This is the 1st game ive played in which shotguns do what they are ment to do That is blast you apart at CQC or pointblank range and be ******* useless at any other range this
Sylwester Dziewiecki Doomheim 83	Posted - 2012.12.08 14:10:00 - [13] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. I'm sure they doing so in THEY term of battle, not yours. So it's nothing special about that. If you could meet guy with militia shotgun at YOUR weapon optimal range I'm sure you wouldn't have any problems with killing him. EVE rules number two: Always stick to your optimal!
Moochie Cricket SyNergy Gaming 143	Posted - 2012.12.08 14:10:00 - [14] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: This is the 1st game ive played in which shotguns do what they are ment to do That is blast you apart at CQC or pointblank range and be ******* useless at any other range +1 Well said
Reout Karaal Doomheim 85	Posted - 2012.12.08 15:35:00 - [15] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. So how about you kill them before they can basically reach out and touch you? Or are you one of those guys who bring AR to a CQC fight? TBH it's getting harder to score solo shotty kills now, even with duvolle and creos, because people actually start to look around. Thanks for feeding frags to militia shotty users though, you're doing gods work.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:00:00 - [16] - Quote To be honest,the biggest problem with shotties in every single shooter is that if the game is laggy,you are deader than dead.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:03:00 - [17] - Quote I handled the militia shotgun before. Not a serious tool in the hands of a newbie. Spread is too high, damage two low, this without the skills.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:24:00 - [18] - Quote Militia shotguns are fine. Scary, but fine. For objective based games anyway. Pub stomp TDM they're a beast.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:26:00 - [19] - Quote what comes next? A rant that some 1 got killed while having a Vk.1 assault suit with a laser rifle from distance?
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.08 16:31:00 - [20] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: what comes next? A rant that some 1 got killed while having a Vk.1 assault suit with a laser rifle from distance? Mate, you're OP with Lasers. Stop. XD

DTOracle Universal Allies Inc. 95	Posted - 2012.12.08 20:44:00 - [21] - Quote What is level IV assault armor anyway? You do realize that all dropsuits in a particular class, have the same # of HP regardless of level. On top of that, shotguns get a damage bonus at <3m. & if it was a headshot, then armor is negated.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.12.08 20:50:00 - [22] - Quote yes but you can put more modules on it to make it have more HP. The OP is just mad that all the ISK that he spend on his fancy suit didnt saved him against a militia shotgun.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 126	Posted - 2012.12.08 21:42:00 - [23] - Quote Shotgun is fine it kills at close range usualy 2 to 3 shots depending on effect against Assult, if engaging a scout do what they are doing go evasive if they miss a shot chances are they aint going to have much chance against a AR in this build, the only real issue is suit related and thats trying to figure out how far to lead by depending on lag but its possible. If they get the jump on you on the other hand you surely have to admit they earned the kill stealth is not easy in this game if you walk in front of someone if if indirectly youll have a arrow of death over head Also a bit of advice if engaging a scout and they back off DO NOT follow them have a guess what they are doing thats right they are hiding with a shotgun about to blow your head off if you go that way
Isaa Quade ZionTCD Legacy Rising 107	Posted - 2012.12.08 21:53:00 - [24] - Quote ITT: "Waaaaaaaaah! somebody killed me with something other that an AR! Waaaaaaaah!"
Roldrage Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 49	Posted - 2012.12.08 22:36:00 - [25] - Quote My word, CQC weapons actually work at close quarters, I am surprised.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.12.08 22:59:00 - [26] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: what comes next? A rant that some 1 got killed while having a Vk.1 assault suit with a laser rifle from distance? An LAV ran me over...wah.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.12.08 23:05:00 - [27] - Quote kira! havnt seen you in ages! message me on the betamax site!
Reout Karaal Doomheim 85	Posted - 2012.12.09 12:40:00 - [28] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: To be honest,the biggest problem with shotties in every single shooter is that if the game is laggy,you are deader than dead. Yeah, try shotgunning on lag. I'm on proto shotty and during lag it sometims does nothing. I'm behind a guy, 2m away, got his head in aim, press R1... nothing, no shot. I start mashing it, but he moved and is now aware of my presence, so I line up another shot, R1 -- NOTHING. He kills me with his AR. My unused shotty rests in the dirt. It's not like I'm mashing and missing the time slot, I've got a good rhythm feeling, as you get a feel for one-shot-one-kill in a while. It just doesn't fire for a second or so. At all. So please, tell me how deadly they are on lag. Oh, you meant your lag? Sure, tell me how a weapon that needs to hit you in one single point is awesome when you're just teleporting all over the place along with your hitbox. Unless you're laggy and standing still, but this is still 50/50. It works best with no lag and against people unaware of their surroundings. Also vs cocky bastards, who think their ADV/PRO will protect them. The biggest problem with every weapon in dust are people who want to nerf it but have not bothered to test it themselves.
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2012.12.10 04:28:00 - [29] - Quote Reout Karaal wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: To be honest,the biggest problem with shotties in every single shooter is that if the game is laggy,you are deader than dead. Yeah, try shotgunning on lag. I'm on proto shotty and during lag it sometims does nothing. I'm behind a guy, 2m away, got his head in aim, press R1... nothing, no shot. I start mashing it, but he moved and is now aware of my presence, so I line up another shot, R1 -- NOTHING. He kills me with his AR. My unused shotty rests in the dirt. It's not like I'm mashing and missing the time slot, I've got a good rhythm feeling, as you get a feel for one-shot-one-kill in a while. It just doesn't fire for a second or so. At all. So please, tell me how deadly they are on lag. Oh, you meant your lag? Sure, tell me how a weapon that needs to hit you in one single point is awesome when you're just teleporting all over the place along with your hitbox. Unless you're laggy and standing still, but this is still 50/50. It works best with no lag and against people unaware of their surroundings. Also vs cocky bastards, who think their ADV/PRO will protect them. The biggest problem with every weapon in dust are people who want to nerf it but have not bothered to test it themselves. THIS OMG this! Sometimes I wonder if the devs made shotguns randomly laugh at their users and just refuse to fire. >.< Kind of like the RDVs that will circle overhead with your expensive toy forever while kitten near highlighting your position to the enemy team
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.10 04:33:00 - [30] - Quote Schazla wrote: People kill me with militia shotguns, and i have level IV assault armor. No offense I kill all the so called shot gun greats with my SMG. True I have high proficiencies for the SMG and Side arm sharpshooter, but I dont let them shotgunners get close to me. Its your gameplay thats to blame here. 1. Dont get baited 2. Keep your distance You will be fine. Now go practise this.



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