well said but, nonsense. Your not trying to help CCP develop this beta your trying to get likes and you know by doing this type of threads if gets you likes.

Yesterday`s event could of been avoided and handled a lot better than it did. There wouldn't of been 15 or so locked threads if you just kept the first thread open. Even if it was 126 pages later it would of been less destructive then what happened. Everyone in the forum would know what it was and just stepped over it and looked at other threads. Also the original poster wouldn't of felt he was being challenged and silenced because he didn't like what he saw in dust.

Even though they will time and time again there not , they are very selective about what they want to see and what they don't want to. Example how is zion players are great not in the locker room it is so way off topic. As well as how do you promote a game that doesn't exist or is not announced. I promise you some good feedback was starting to come from that thread because passions would of erupted and the i don't want to make waves filter would of shut down. As much as you want to believe the calm thread gives feedback its actually the semi flaming ones 7 pages of a good read that do.

Also how mature are we as a playerbase if we have to be shielded from bad language, or hold our hands over our ears when we disagree replying la la la get the hell out your running this beta lock this thread, and omg im telling CCP your gonna get in such trouble.

Frequency is what makes devs pay attention, because a video game is like a child and every parent has the bubble that their child is special, cute, and a genius it takes a lot of hammering at that bubble to get truth in.

1. You post a thread that comes across as nothing more than a rant.

2. You post a thread that contains inappropriate language just to convey said rant. Case in point: Someone just recently posted a thread using an anti-gay slur just to say "get rid of redline so I can get to tanks".

3. You don't include any detailed suggestions with well thought out logic as to why you want [insert demand here].

4. You disrespect CCP and their staff.

5. Claim that they don't listen when in fact they have (see Feedback and Technical sections of the forums).

6. Your post is NOT constructive nor professional in any way.

All CCP will do is just ignore your post. In some cases even delete it and slap a 404 label on it like this one: [insert 404 page here]

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CCP will listen to you if...

1. You post a thread that is calm, concise, and polite.

2. Thread doesn't contain inappropriate language (at least not the sort that crosses the line).

3. You include detailed suggestions and you have done your homework on the matter to back up said suggestion.

4. You respect the Devs and GM.

5. Your post is constructive.

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It's not that hard. CCP is not like Blizzard, Microsoft, Infinity Ward, EA games, SOE, etc. where they cater to the lowest common denominator. They don't bend over for you just because you posted a rant. As long as you help them, they will help you and all of us. If you don't help them and all you do is post demands and rants, then what the frakk are you doing here?

that sounds good once again in words , but put in the context of this beta is once again non sense. Your basically proud that your testing a cracked sample any data collected now is void from exploit, and outdated code. the testing process to crack this build was accomplished a month and half ago. I would say your right if Dust was updated every week and tweaked but its not , its done by build. We are way past the conclusion part of this build now and the atmosphere shows it everyday.

CCP is still collecting data. Why else do you think they are hosting these events even now?I got better things to do than to continue this argument with you about what is considered nonsense.

you better not question ccp they can do no wrong YOU BOW TO THEM NOW. http://youtu.be/GLZjPYyE0fs

Think you got it wrong , you should have put CCP will ignore you if,,,,,,,

You post on the forum.

CCP will listen ,,,,,,,,,,

If you use the irc.

that is the feeling i am getting when i am on the forum. it's also why i lost hope because the loudest minority will be the one that is heard.

it was a nice run for the most part. what a shame.

It's laughable if you think they're listening to us in IRC. We feel as ignored as anyone here. You should have been in IRC the other day for the hour+ long rant between several of us about the lack of communication anywhere lately. I mentioned it would be funny to link it all here so everyone could participate, but stopped logging when it surpassed 20 pages in a word doc.

oh ccp will notice if you try and ramp up support for other games that are not even made yet.they care more about other peoples games than the legitimate gripes of their fanbase.

i farmed 276 likes in 24 hours before my thread got locked

I love it: to sum up this post: CCP will ignore their customers if the said customers dissatisfied. You should be the official spokesman/woman for CCP, bro.

I love it: to sum up this post: CCP will ignore their customers if the said customers dissatisfied. You should be the official spokesman/woman for CCP, bro.

Being dissatisfied doesn't mean act like a moronic jackass.

Weird, I've gotten responses on 9 of 12 of my bug reports, and 3 of 5 of my technical issues. That's a pretty incredible ratio for a company who "doesn't listen".

A lot of you make a post, and then rant about "a lack of dev response" or "because they just don't listen to us" less than an hour later, like a spoiled brat asking "did you make me dessert yet?" every five minute starting at noon - even after getting told you can have your dessert after dinner.

Learn some patience and wait for the next build to see results on the things they've told us they've adressed.

Weird, I've gotten responses on 9 of 12 of my bug reports, and 3 of 5 of my technical issues. That's a pretty incredible ratio for a company who "doesn't listen".

. . .

that IS wierd. . .

You are saying that you got a dev to respond in 9 of your 12 bug reports?

There isn't even one dev response on the entire front page of this forum right now, and dev responses are so rare I am shocked whenever I spot one.
I've made as many bug reports with well detailed calm information, and not a single response.
Then i made a single one filled with rage, still not one response-- it doesn't seem to make any difference.

that IS wierd. . .

You are saying that you got a dev to respond in 9 of your 12 bug reports?

There isn't even one dev response on the entire front page of this forum right now, and dev responses are so rare I am shocked whenever I spot one.
I've made as many bug reports with well detailed calm information, and not a single response.
Then i made a single one filled with rage, still not one response-- it doesn't seem to make any difference.

It isn't hard to find dev responses if you actually look for them...

Maybe you should try reading the stickies occasionally?

Devs here are MUCH better at responding and resolving issues than most. And they're also a lot more lenient on their definition of "rude" than some companies I could point fingers at (Ubisoft, for example).

well said but, nonsense. Your not trying to help CCP develop this beta your trying to get likes and you know by doing this type of threads if gets you likes.

Yesterday`s event could of been avoided and handled a lot better than it did. There wouldn't of been 15 or so locked threads if you just kept the first thread open. Even if it was 126 pages later it would of been less destructive then what happened. Everyone in the forum would know what it was and just stepped over it and looked at other threads. Also the original poster wouldn't of felt he was being challenged and silenced because he didn't like what he saw in dust.

Even though they will time and time again there not , they are very selective about what they want to see and what they don't want to. Example how is zion players are great not in the locker room it is so way off topic. As well as how do you promote a game that doesn't exist or is not announced. I promise you some good feedback was starting to come from that thread because passions would of erupted and the i don't want to make waves filter would of shut down. As much as you want to believe the calm thread gives feedback its actually the semi flaming ones 7 pages of a good read that do.

Also how mature are we as a playerbase if we have to be shielded from bad language, or hold our hands over our ears when we disagree replying la la la get the hell out your running this beta lock this thread, and omg im telling CCP your gonna get in such trouble.

Frequency is what makes devs pay attention, because a video game is like a child and every parent has the bubble that their child is special, cute, and a genius it takes a lot of hammering at that bubble to get truth in.

I just thought I would make everyone feel a bit better here! We read the Forum constantly and a lot of information posted here is raised/discussed on our side for the benefit of the game. Because there isn't a DEV post in a thread does not mean it is being ignored :)

Forum rules apply (Like on any other forum) to all members and by ignoring them people only make all the information posted less accessible and readable for us all hence why there is some moderation being done from time to time.

CCP isn't making a game to be played by CCP employees but by you guys so trust me when I say nothing valuable is being ignored :)

well said but, nonsense. Your not trying to help CCP develop this beta your trying to get likes and you know by doing this type of threads if gets you likes.

Yesterday`s event could of been avoided and handled a lot better than it did. There wouldn't of been 15 or so locked threads if you just kept the first thread open. Even if it was 126 pages later it would of been less destructive then what happened. Everyone in the forum would know what it was and just stepped over it and looked at other threads. Also the original poster wouldn't of felt he was being challenged and silenced because he didn't like what he saw in dust.

Even though they will time and time again there not , they are very selective about what they want to see and what they don't want to. Example how is zion players are great not in the locker room it is so way off topic. As well as how do you promote a game that doesn't exist or is not announced. I promise you some good feedback was starting to come from that thread because passions would of erupted and the i don't want to make waves filter would of shut down. As much as you want to believe the calm thread gives feedback its actually the semi flaming ones 7 pages of a good read that do.

Also how mature are we as a playerbase if we have to be shielded from bad language, or hold our hands over our ears when we disagree replying la la la get the hell out your running this beta lock this thread, and omg im telling CCP your gonna get in such trouble.

Frequency is what makes devs pay attention, because a video game is like a child and every parent has the bubble that their child is special, cute, and a genius it takes a lot of hammering at that bubble to get truth in.

I just thought I would make everyone feel a bit better here! We read the Forum constantly and a lot of information posted here is raised/discussed on our side for the benefit of the game. Because there isn't a DEV post in a thread does not mean it is being ignored :)

Forum rules apply (Like on any other forum) to all members and by ignoring them people only make all the information posted less accessible and readable for us all hence why there is some moderation being done from time to time.

CCP isn't making a game to be played by CCP employees but by you guys so trust me when I say nothing valuable is being ignored :)

Nice but how about going the extra mile and actually doing a weekly post then (you found time for this response) we may feel less inclined to think we are p****ing against the wind.

I just thought I would make everyone feel a bit better here! We read the Forum constantly and a lot of information posted here is raised/discussed on our side for the benefit of the game. Because there isn't a DEV post in a thread does not mean it is being ignored :)

Forum rules apply (Like on any other forum) to all members and by ignoring them people only make all the information posted less accessible and readable for us all hence why there is some moderation being done from time to time.

CCP isn't making a game to be played by CCP employees but by you guys so trust me when I say nothing valuable is being ignored :)

Look here for their weekly post lol, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&find=unread

I think the lack of a new build in such a long time and the devs knowing the problems but choose to work on other stuff when releasing the build we have right now has made those links more of "ill believe it when I see it" mentality . Even the Dust has so much potential loses all meaning over time after hearing it for the 1000 time and having no proof why.

Yes because CCP doesn't have to do anything , not even update their beta that has been delay or in production the same amount of time a person would get a bachelors degree in.Really I hate saying the word Fan boy , but trying to justify no progress in over 2 months and not understanding why people are weary of a new game developer after this amount of time is crazy.

The players didn't tell CCP to release in builds making so much anticipation and hype to make or break this beta. Also beta players don't get upset because its not perfect , just that it doesn't change and slowly politeness changes into What the crap then to ahhh screw it.

I think the lack of a new build in such a long time and the devs knowing the problems but choose to work on other stuff when releasing the build we have right now has made those links more of "ill believe it when I see it" mentality . Even the Dust has so much potential loses all meaning over time after hearing it for the 1000 time and having no proof why.

Considering -most- games don't come out with a new build every month (this one being no different, just for beta) it's going to be peachy watching those people struggle waiting every six months for new features.

I just thought I would make everyone feel a bit better here! We read the Forum constantly and a lot of information posted here is raised/discussed on our side for the benefit of the game. Because there isn't a DEV post in a thread does not mean it is being ignored :)

Forum rules apply (Like on any other forum) to all members and by ignoring them people only make all the information posted less accessible and readable for us all hence why there is some moderation being done from time to time.

CCP isn't making a game to be played by CCP employees but by you guys so trust me when I say nothing valuable is being ignored :)