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JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:40:00 -
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Just found out that URA is a corp, i always thought you guys were a NPC corp...... |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
318
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:51:00 -
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The OP was stating rankings according to the tourney. That is why he placed imp and SI as 1 and 2... |
Donkey Hawaii
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:56:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:The OP was stating rankings according to the tourney. That is why he placed imp and SI as 1 and 2... Well my bad, so SI and Imperfects aren't the best corps in the beta so far, only the two best in the tournament? |
Daddrobit
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:59:00 -
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Defrosted Team Tuna #1 obvsly |
Kasshern s Chrome
SyNergy Gaming
47
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:09:00 -
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Look we suck we know, we haved filled oceans with our QQ's. we need to give FPS up all together and get on with our lives...... We Are Weak Sauce "(
SyN-We Arent Even Decent |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:11:00 -
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Donkey Hawaii wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Donkey Hawaii wrote:SOOOO my guess is SI and imperfects are the 2 badasses in the game Well guess its time to skill up and show all you f@#k muffins how its done Seems like a hard man right here, who knows, maybe I'll break out the militia stuff ^_^ Lets start off with a stupid question, I assume SI stands for Seraphim Initiative, am I right?
Correct good sir.
Honestly, I think the OP is quite right about 1st and 2nd. Sha is a noble sir who wishes no offense, I on the other hand do not care for your feelings..
________________ Jason needs to find his disclaimer, its around here somewhere, honest.
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Dust Goon
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:49:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:as we stated before, we want to take into account the communities opinion regarding our power rankings. spaces 3-10 are up for grabs as The Imperfects and SI are obviously 1 and 2. this article will be up on next monday so you have between now and then to vote. our blog is open to adding highly regarded corps [STB, SC and Tritan come to mind] that didnt participate in the tourney as there were many corps whose poor showing in the tourney doesnt back up their status as a top 10 corp.
we only need your vote but if youd like to add a short reasoning we're open to that as well. thank u for your vote.
You never even finished the old rankings. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:52:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Defrosted Team Tuna #1 obvsly
best corp name ever tbh |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:53:00 -
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1. Imperfects 2. Zion 3. Seraphim 4. SyNergy Gaming 5. Hellstorm 6. Sver 7. STB 8. 9. 10.
All the others dont matter. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1031
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:55:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:1. Imperfects 2. Zion 3. Seraphim 4. SyNergy Gaming 5. Hellstorm 6. Sver 7. STB 8. 9. 10.
All the others dont matter.
zionshad i told you to stop using alts to boost your corp name |
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Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:04:00 -
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Lol you flatter me sir, but no im not an alt. my stats are far too average to be an alt. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:06:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:1. Imperfects 2. Zion 3. Seraphim 4. SyNergy Gaming 5. Hellstorm 6. Sver 7. STB 8. 9. 10.
All the others dont matter. The others don't matter, huh? Interesting. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.12.05 01:44:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:It really depends on what your ranking them on.
Right now I would rank Synergy over SI because Synergy is starting to field some solid tanks and they by far have some of the best gun game players in the game. Only thing that would drop them below SI is they are so close to that number mark on players. Synergy is doing some secret improving so I think they could be one of the ones to watch out for because they have the ability to draw in other skilled players. Just look at there win/loss and K/D together both are decently high.
SI would come next they have great players al around but they do not compete with synergy's ground game. all SI has is Tanks and Rankrancid hiding with his thale.
After that PFB Amazing people lack the numbers though. I think personally they can compete with SI Slap is a great tanker. And I have seen a few people that run solid ground game from them.
then Zion based on numbers they will never be one of the best but they will have numbers to through out there when needed there quantity will let them pull out some amazing players here and there but I feel they will loose them also to corps that are more competitive.
LOTIS might be a up and coming corp can not say have not delt with them enough but They have people with solid gun game and some decent heavies. Along with a tanker if I remember right. dont understand this @ all. SYN supposed to be MLG competitive clan who are leet in competitive games but whined about vehicles, go negative in the tourney and place lower than us, rofl and zion. if they were put together 2 compete theyre doing it wrong. none of the people above have been together as long as them. the imp had no time 2 practice. 3. rofl 4. zion 5. wtf
For all intents and purposes, Synergy, ROFL, and SI are all effectively tied in placement since they lost to the team that played first and no one else they faced. Saying they placed lower, whoever you are, is misleading. |
MORTADEL0
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
45
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Posted - 2012.12.05 02:14:00 -
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Many good corps, sure, but I only know corps with EU members, others I dont know so good. SI and WTF, strongest EU corps, especially SI. Not Imperfects, I imagine they are good too, but dont play against them (maybe a few times)...
But, for one ranking... is important number of members, quaility of them, play like a team, diferents skills, estrategy, veh+Ącles...
Many good corps in Dust, always a pleasure for to get funny games:
SI, Imperfects
WTF, Synergy, STB, Betamax, Zion, ROFL, KEQ
Academy Inferno, MAPHIA, , UPS ... and others
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
261
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Posted - 2012.12.05 02:53:00 -
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SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:33:00 -
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Looks like most of you have forgotten about The Southern Legion huh? We have some pretty good players too :P |
Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.12.05 10:19:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... i doubt that since SI won all 3 battles against Zion on the tourny, unless it was friendly 8 on 8 corp battle |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.12.05 12:36:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... I like you, you made me chuckle. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.12.05 13:56:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Looks like most of you have forgotten about The Southern Legion huh? We have some pretty good players too :P
I didn't forget, you guys are a great corp.
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Dusters Blog
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:55:00 -
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since it seems many want to vote in private u can do say at [email protected] |
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STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:48:00 -
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So regardless of my biasewd opinions ill rank as an on-looker
1- IMP 2- SI -do to run in tourny an there matches vs STB 3-Zion - Numbers an skill make them a massive entity 4-Syn - loads of skill respected battle commanders = threat anywhere 5-WTF - Probably one of the strongest EU corps 6-STB - I think we are better then WTF but they made tourny an we didnt we beat them in 8 v 8 but not a valid representation of there unit 7-L.O.T.I.S - If you are aware of them you will lose - Up an comers 8- Tritin - Strong, martial an brave 9-ROFL - not sure if you can use them casue there a holding corp for there allaince but they are decent 10- Betamax - If they are on there game they are very diffcult
My honest opinions
i would grade the rest but was only asked for 10 dont think i dont respect other corps any1 willing to group up an play larger corps have my respect! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:14:00 -
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It's honestly hard to judge the imperfects. Zitro twins and Reg are beasts, more so then most, but when you see a squad of imperfects and neither of those 3 are in it, then all you have to do is see if they pull out a tank, if they don't, then they're as squishy as anyone else. But even then, their worst members are easily any other corps best.
Si on the other hand, even without a tank they run so perfectly together that 8 out of 10 games you'll see a flock of blue berries following them. STB and SyN get the same treatment from blue berries.
ROFL may as well be dead, so who cares. If they need to pull from several corps to field a team then they'll be struggling with a lot more then just skill. ROFL needs to set up a base of players they expect to be competitive and actually go through with makin' it into a real corp, possibly the idol head of there "Alliance." Which is what I believe they did do, but they didn't stick with it.
Trit - I like these guys. If you ever were to have a good game where a line was drawn and the only thing crossing that line was bullets, it against these guys. Not as tight as other corps, they make up for it with excellent solo players who compliment others who are trying to use team work. There leadership is both effective and influential.
Betamax - You see them from time to time, almost never in full squads. I've never seen them dominate more then a few games, usually in vehicle. They may of once been good, but it's hard to tell now, seems a lot of there best aren't as active. Still, you see there name in game and know that one side has an edge with them there.
L.O.T.I.S - Up and coming indeed. What a punch these guys pack lol. Not nearly at the top 5 corp strength, they're climbing fast. Careful of there pilots, they take cue from PFB and use speed tanks that a full squad of proto forges can't touch. They're well organized and there leadership seems strong.
PFB - Another great group of guys, gun game is as good as any other corp, but there vehicle game is especially sinister. They're probably the best when it comes to vehicle to vehicle warfare. There leadership is capable, but organization may be in the lack.
Zion is hard not to be biased towards, but I have my reservations. Out of any corp we field the most heavies and logi's, which makes for excellent pub stomp squads. Zions lack of vehicles has crippled there standings in corp battles, as such we get looked down upon, which is understandable. If you're looking for a quick squad with excellent gun game Zion's public channel openly accepts anyone into there squads as if they were Zion themselves. Zion has a "good guy" reputation, earned from Shad and his subordinates. But we'll see how long that image lasts :)
And STB - They take a lot of crap from the top corps, and I'm not sure why. QG, when I squaded with him, impressed the hell out of me with his SL skills. Showed me there's a lot more to being a squad leader then giving out orders, objectives, and destinations. The other members of STB constantly show excellent gun game and coordination, and with QG at the helms I've no doubt they'll be spearheading many a battle.
There's a lot to say about every corp that makes them different. It's not a stretch to say Imperfects are easily the best, but it would be a long stretch to say they're the best by a mile. Many corps have several players worthy of mention, many of which never use these forums. So far I'm impressed with the beta communities corps and can't wait to see what it's like in open beta :) |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:17:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... I like you, you made me chuckle.
Interesting zion dont turn up to corp battles against them. Not sure when we got beat down by them. Maybe I wasnt online at the time and missed it?
Wait I'm always online.. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:18:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... I like you, you made me chuckle. Interesting zion dont turn up to corp battles against them. Not sure when we got beat down by them. Maybe I wasnt online at the time and missed it? Wait I'm always online.. Don't turn up to corp battles? When did we not show up? You fell for an obvious troll. :P |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:29:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:It's honestly hard to judge the imperfects. Zitro twins and Reg are beasts, more so then most, but when you see a squad of imperfects and neither of those 3 are in it, then all you have to do is see if they pull out a tank, if they don't, then they're as squishy as anyone else. But even then, their worst members are easily any other corps best.
Si on the other hand, even without a tank they run so perfectly together that 8 out of 10 games you'll see a flock of blue berries following them. STB and SyN get the same treatment from blue berries.
ROFL may as well be dead, so who cares. If they need to pull from several corps to field a team then they'll be struggling with a lot more then just skill. ROFL needs to set up a base of players they expect to be competitive and actually go through with makin' it into a real corp, possibly the idol head of there "Alliance." Which is what I believe they did do, but they didn't stick with it.
Trit - I like these guys. If you ever were to have a good game where a line was drawn and the only thing crossing that line was bullets, it against these guys. Not as tight as other corps, they make up for it with excellent solo players who compliment others who are trying to use team work. There leadership is both effective and influential.
Betamax - You see them from time to time, almost never in full squads. I've never seen them dominate more then a few games, usually in vehicle. They may of once been good, but it's hard to tell now, seems a lot of there best aren't as active. Still, you see there name in game and know that one side has an edge with them there.
L.O.T.I.S - Up and coming indeed. What a punch these guys pack lol. Not nearly at the top 5 corp strength, they're climbing fast. Careful of there pilots, they take cue from PFB and use speed tanks that a full squad of proto forges can't touch. They're well organized and there leadership seems strong.
PFB - Another great group of guys, gun game is as good as any other corp, but there vehicle game is especially sinister. They're probably the best when it comes to vehicle to vehicle warfare. There leadership is capable, but organization may be in the lack.
Zion is hard not to be biased towards, but I have my reservations. Out of any corp we field the most heavies and logi's, which makes for excellent pub stomp squads. Zions lack of vehicles has crippled there standings in corp battles, as such we get looked down upon, which is understandable. If you're looking for a quick squad with excellent gun game Zion's public channel openly accepts anyone into there squads as if they were Zion themselves. Zion has a "good guy" reputation, earned from Shad and his subordinates. But we'll see how long that image lasts :)
And STB - They take a lot of crap from the top corps, and I'm not sure why. QG, when I squaded with him, impressed the hell out of me with his SL skills. Showed me there's a lot more to being a squad leader then giving out orders, objectives, and destinations. The other members of STB constantly show excellent gun game and coordination, and with QG at the helms I've no doubt they'll be spearheading many a battle.
There's a lot to say about every corp that makes them different. It's not a stretch to say Imperfects are easily the best, but it would be a long stretch to say they're the best by a mile. Many corps have several players worthy of mention, many of which never use these forums. So far I'm impressed with the beta communities corps and can't wait to see what it's like in open beta :)
Just thought I'd clear some things up for you, SoTa, since you seem to be a bit confused with regard to ROFL:
ROFL is an alliance and has been for some time now. If you know EvE 3rd party sites, this is pretty easy to confirm. PFBHz is part of ROFL and did comprise some of ROFL House for the tourney.
ROFL has several other clans/corps with plenty of members. Not all corps wanted to participate in the tourney (for various reasons) so a "House" Corp was created for those who have been very active for this iteration of the beta. As with most groups with players who have been around since the first build, many players just don't want to go through the process of grinding toons over and over again knowing they will have to do it again at release.
Definitely not dead |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1031
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:29:00 -
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I like you sota but imperfects are more then 3 people and no your not as good as our 'avg' imperfect. So other players we have that you didn't list include Axl, Cyn, Ima_leet, Telc, ludwig, Alm1gty, bendtner, Gslick, Venery, thereaper, wicked, protoman, enigma, alldin, skytt, beserk. There are more i could list like Adski who runs a 6+ kdr on NA servers as a UK player. Not to mention we have the best HMG/forges in the game. Ever get sniped by sleepy or swufy? Our vehicles are scrubs but i WOULDN'T trade (except Noc he is scruber) them for another corps. We have lots of players that spec'd into different things for the tournament in case we needed it. I have almost 2 mill of my 6 mill sp into logi bro not to mention hacking/scanner/etc. Judging us by public play is a mistake because is just sp/isk farming for us. If you think corp battles are going to get any eaiser when it gets to 16/24/32 per side you are sadly mistaken.
PS I wasn't listing our entire corp here and what they spec'd into for the tournament but there are a lot of player the choose suits/weapons based upon the possiblity of need not what they are already good at.
To add to the discussion I would put PFB and SyN at 2 also because having played them in tourny we know first hand individual skills and tatics. They are both complete teams.
SI Is a good corp but they were dependent a lot of vehicles and lacked a bit of gun game. Something they are woking on now to their credit. On US servers SI would be equal to PFB and SyN.
STB have some individual skilled players but again us in corp battle they used the same pub-stomp-tank-spam they do in pubs. I have played with and against STB players and their skill should translate better to corp battles and it hasn't.
Tritan has a good based but heavies and some vehicles aren't all you need. I expect them improve.
I think the WTF guys have the best gun game in EU but lack in other parts.
Zion TCD I dont know what to think. I know there are some top players there and i have played with them but there is a big fall off once you get past that. Yes they lack vehicles too. The continue to do corp battles which is only way a corp can improve.
I could probably go on and on but am tired of typing it out. I do think there are some really go small 10 man groups in dust right now I hope ccp doesn't try to MAG out dust and make as big as battles as possible. if we do 16/24 I would be happy that way smaller corps can exist. Realistically if you have to fill a 32 man team you will need 100 poeple in your corp to be active daily.
If corps don't do corp battles then they shouldn't be rated at all. Pub stomp corps are worthless in dust in the long term |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:40:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... I like you, you made me chuckle. Interesting zion dont turn up to corp battles against them. Not sure when we got beat down by them. Maybe I wasnt online at the time and missed it? Wait I'm always online.. Don't turn up to corp battles? When did we not show up? You fell for an obvious troll. :P
So the 2 mil was a gift ?
Hmm ok thanks then I guess...I got team killed 7 times in that game waiting for your lot to show up. Then zion said they were short on cash. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:42:00 -
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Thanks for the fill in, Jaiden. Most of my statistics are my own that I've seen on the battlefield, look forward to seeing you guys grow. And had no idea about your relation with PFB, very interesting ^_^
And Free beers - I like you too, man, but I'm not someone you'll easily over-look on the battlefield. Though lately I've been enjoying LAV crushing and kamakazing into every tank I see. I WILL JUMP ON YOU, FEAR ME. In other words, yes, I am as good or better then your average imperfect. Enjoy running your superior proto assault suits, price reduction on proto heavy will help a lot of people dedicated to heavies like I am shine.
And I really should of added you to that trio of beasts Free Beers. You seem to be above average no matter what gun you hold in your hand, which takes a lot more skills to be versatile then it is to be pro with one weapon. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:44:00 -
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Sha Kharn Clone wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SI got beatdown by Zion I heard... I like you, you made me chuckle. Interesting zion dont turn up to corp battles against them. Not sure when we got beat down by them. Maybe I wasnt online at the time and missed it? Wait I'm always online.. Don't turn up to corp battles? When did we not show up? You fell for an obvious troll. :P So the 2 mil was a gift ? Hmm ok thanks then I guess...I got team killed 7 times in that game waiting for your lot to show up. Then zion said they were short on cash. Did that happen? You guys made a match with us when we had no ISK? You either jumped the gun on challenging us without knowing our situation, or Zion made a mistake.
Either way, it's all good. You guys wipe us clean ^_^ |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.05 19:53:00 -
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Third post in a row - ew, but I hate clutter in posts.
My opinions are in no way a reflection of my corporation. I have nothing but absolute respect for every corp mentioned in this thread and every single one of there members ability to play. I tried to keep positive in my opinionated post and give both positive and negative feed-back, but in doing so I realized most my feed-back was positive. It's a reflection of how well organized DUST already is by it's loyal player base.
Regardless of skill, whose better then who, who can do more then who, or who can do things faster, it's been enjoyable posting on these forums, playing games, and discussing and tweaking this game with you all.
May the good times role, and every corp mentioned here find success in there own way. |
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