Vehicles are the biggest mofos on the battlefield....why is it that we can never see them on our radar?? It is annoying when you hear them and hear missiles going off but you don't know where they are exactly and they can be right around a corner.

If the higher the shield hp, the easier it is to detect signature....then how come they never come up on the radar? You have dropships and tanks with 8000hp worth of shields that are invisible. Yet, an infantry with 137hp pops up easily on my radar.

Please....this needs to be changed.

Did you skill-up scanning skills?

I agree with the OP.

Yes, we understand that the current radar system works by line of site. But it needs to work by sight AND sound. It's pretty ridiculous that a tank can sneak up on you from around the corner. Isn't that what black ops variants are for?

I had this happen too. This skill level crap is ridiculous. You don't operate a sensor system. It is an AI system that takes readings based off of movement and bio-signatures. That has nothing to do with skill level. I guess that's just the rpg portion of the game being applied to something it shouldn't.

If you can hear it, and it's in line of sight, you can look around to see where it's coming from.

If it's being sneaky-sneaky, then it's doing a better job than you.

... but it's not in the line of sight. That's the point. If it's not in the line of sight, you cannot tell which direction it's coming from. Forward, behind, left and right, who knows? I should AT LEAST be able to detect which direction it's coming from.

It's not as simple as "it's doing a better job" than me. It's a wonky game mechanic that doesn't make sense and makes deaths feel cheap. Similar to silent LAVs running people over.

I'm not quite sure why you seem to be against this idea.

I think that honestly unless you have modules equipped for stealth, and your close, you should show up on radar by firing. The modules and skills aiding sensors should be extremely enhancing range and accuracy, while stealth and sensor dampener modules should make you very sneaky.

The current system just is too numbers related and less common sense related.

That's true for so many parts of the game though. One can make a case for such extensive automation that a Merc would be nothing but a pack mule for the AI that would perform instant threat recognition and assessment, then aim and fire a weapon faster than any human could. Just as modern day airline pilots are systems managers and don't hand fly any more, a truly advanced battlefield would be fully automated.

One has to resort to lore to explain why mercs are even there instead of drones, but even then the lack of mid level automation is glaring. We just have to overlook all that so we have a FPS rather than SimBattlefield.

... but it's not in the line of sight. That's the point. If it's not in the line of sight, you cannot tell which direction it's coming from. Forward, behind, left and right, who knows? I should AT LEAST be able to detect which direction it's coming from.

It's not as simple as "it's doing a better job" than me. It's a wonky game mechanic that doesn't make sense and makes deaths feel cheap. Similar to silent LAVs running people over.

I'm not quite sure why you seem to be against this idea.

When I said "in line of sight" I actually MEANT "in line of sight" not "in field of view" - If you COULD see it when looking the right direction, but aren't looking in the right direction, that's not the game's fault. Look around more.

If you're not watching your back, and don't have someone else watching your back, expect tanks to show up there occasionally. Also, Shotgunners, SMG/AR guys, and... pretty much anything that can kill you.

If you got snuck up on by a tank, YOU SCREWED UP. Simple as that. Possible exception of spawning in front of the tank, but then, it didn't really "sneak up" so much as "get lucky" in the same way anyone else can with a bad spawn.

... but it's not in the line of sight. That's the point. If it's not in the line of sight, you cannot tell which direction it's coming from. Forward, behind, left and right, who knows? I should AT LEAST be able to detect which direction it's coming from.

It's not as simple as "it's doing a better job" than me. It's a wonky game mechanic that doesn't make sense and makes deaths feel cheap. Similar to silent LAVs running people over.

I'm not quite sure why you seem to be against this idea.

We've seen a lot of good gameplay opportunities and mechanics balanced out for the sake of poor playstyles.

If you aren't aware of your surroundings, and you're moving as a solo player rather than as part of a squad, you will put on blinders and be mowed over by someone who pays attention to the little things -- like the directional indicator on your HUD icon.

Want to avoid being blindsied by an LAV? Look both ways before crossing the street. That's something my 3 year old knows to do.

Um, dude, I don't think you understand what we are talking about here. I think there is definitely some miscommunication going on. The issue that we are talking about is very specific/situational. And it probably happens 10% of the time when tanks are in play. The issue is: when the tank is completely "under cover" as in, you cannot see it at all because it's behind a wall or building, it is essentially impossible to tell which wall/corner it's hiding behind unless you can see where it's shots are coming from, if it is shooting at all. (And when I say "hiding", don't take it literally. It's a joke. I doubt anyone is actually trying to "sneak" in a tank).

It doesn't matter if you look around because if you did look around you would not be able to see it. Unless you have xray vision. We know the tank is close, we can hear it. But it is impossible to see it. Our decisions are a matter of luck rather than any type of thought. So it's not that the tank is "doing a better job" or we "screwed up", it's luck. Just. Luck. One guy just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. The other guy just happened to stumble across the right place at the right time.

I'm not sure where you thought I was talking about "field of view" but I assure you that wasn't what I was talking about. We simply want the ability to detect vehicles in close proximity by using sound. That's all.