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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:08:00 -
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Siege modules for marauder tanks? Force Recon dropships? Conquest gamemode that we keep hearing is sooooo awesome? Weapon customisation? Ewar? Capacitors?
when is all the stuff from the devblogs gonna actually become reality and not fantasy/pipe dreams? are they even possible? or are the devblogs just fantasies CCP hopes they can turn into reality?
when is this beta gonna feel like its really pickin up steam and making progress forward and not sideways
communication is key CCP and for the duration of this beta since back in april its been the #1 problem along with the snail pace things since to be goin at.
this beta been goin on for almost 8 months now and we still trying to get basics down?
This isnt a rant this is a general concern thread about just how much progress was actually made in 8 months. The game has been pushed back twice already the more it delays the more interest disappears Can CCP have this game ready by spring-summer next year based on the snail pace we moving at? i seriously doubt it and another delay will only hurt the game more.
Speaking from experience im a little worried because games that had awesome concepts never seem to ever end up near the high standards they set for themselves. Just look at MAG, game was touted as gonna be this massive persistant war and what did we actually get upon release? contracts that were worthless, nothing even close to what it could of been.
Look at BF3....touted by dice as gonna be this awesome clan oriented game with massive clan support and esports support...what did we get? facebook for battlefield players aka battlelog
Would like to hear other ppls thoughts both from those that been in since april like me and newer testers do u think CCP can pull it off and deliver the game we all want as hardcore fps fans, competitive clans, casual clans? |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:14:00 -
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but isnt it a beta though? (this game will always be a beta) |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:20:00 -
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Longest beta I've ever been in, including some big name MMOs that didn't have their kittens together either. Game has great concept, originality etc. but its moving at a vaporware pace.
We need new builds every 2-3 weeks, not 2months.
CCP are you relying on your in house testers for most of the stuff? If so they are failing (1hit missles etc) and why are we here?
Are the balances you are making based off public matches or in house testing? Corp. battles is where some testing needs to be done. You will see all the game mechanics come into play. Again, if only in house testing is done for these things, I can see why we received the 1 shot missles that travel across the map or the militia shotguns that can 1 shot proto suits.
Your beta player base has some good ideas and solutions to your problems with this game, I would suggest listening to most of them. It looks like some have been adapted and for that I applaud you.
While alot of us whine, complain and give you all kinds of sh it about the game. It's because we care, we want this game to succeed and can see the potential in it.
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Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:29:00 -
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agree with ya Mavado & Cyn. CCP's ideas are very sound, and for all we know they may have this things in the next build of in house testing. However, if they havent noticed their "in house testing" isn't as good as we are, so they are unable to accurately identify balancing issues.
If i could suggest one thing, it would be in this next update/build, include EVERYTHING that will be in full release, and let us do our "job" and test how everything works together instead of piecemeal items. By piecemeal'ing it, it changes the balance that was/n't there beforehand harder to identify. Plus if they aren't gana reset and simply possibly move all gained SP to unallocated, it would allow players to test more aspects of the game, which would have to be done before full release anyway; which i think would be hard to include all the items after this nxt update if they are looking for a summer 2013 release. As give them 6 months from now, for full release, making it May/June. That means if new build starts mid December, we could have 2-3 months to test EVERYTHING, then open beta for 1-2 months which could include changes needed based on what was identified as "op" or ineffective, then full release. As it would be pretty bad to have a new unbalanced feature in game thats never been tested.
Just my .02 |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:31:00 -
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EriktheHeartless wrote:but isnt it a beta though? (this game will always be a beta)
the beta excuse is a poor one atm tbqh just because its a beta doesnt mean u can continue to drag it on for 3 years before it finally gets work done
the game will always be in development but sayin "it will always be in beta" means u are willing to accept a subpar game on the hopes that it will eventually get good. Sorry to disappoint u but most of the console community will not think like this and this game NEEDS a large playerbase to thrive |
MItt R0mney
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:33:00 -
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I've been here since April. I think we should wait and see what the new build brings us before we completely give up all hope. This is the build that is supposed to fix basic gameplay. I'm not getting my hopes up (It's been a long 8 months), but if CCP can successfully pull off this new build, then maybe not all hope is lost.
It's important to keep in mind that no one has done what CCP is doing right now. And it's kind of funny because it seems like CCP is the LEAST capable developers when it comes to the FPS genre. It's probably why we are moving at a snails pace. I wonder how much FPS experience the DEV team has? But like I said CCP will create this game in their own time. It's easy to get impatient.
They will create a successful game, but only on their time schedule, not ours. I truly believe that they will (eventually) create a great game. It's why i'm still here after 8 long months. |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:33:00 -
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Yes i agree that the progress is a little slow. And that there are lots of issues to work through. But i got FAITH that it will eventually happen.
With all the hidden info and teases and ideas out there. Im just wondering. When it is all finnaly released we may get our minds blown and smashed in the face by its awsomeness.
I hope this happens. Sooner rather than later.
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R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:38:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:when is all the stuff from the devblogs gonna actually become reality and not fantasy/pipe dreams? are they even possible? or are the devblogs just fantasies CCP hopes they can turn into reality?
There will be 2 free updates per year for as long as there are enough players to fund it; that is a lot of opportunities for this stuff to be implemented.
Features that have been implemented already...
Basic infantry combat Fitting system Market Skills system Ground vehicles Air vehicles Anti-vehicle weapons Objective capture Squads Teams Coroporations In-game currency Micro-transactions Text Chat Voice chat Global voice chat In-game email Remote Repair Revive Ammo Re-supply "Streaming" content (installations falling from the sky) Atmosphere (day/night/fog) War points Leaderboards Corp battles Instant matches Equipment blueprints Eve integration Orbital strikes Spawn-in-MCC Shields Salvage Equipment meta-levels Safezones
I'm sure I could name more "features" if I could be bothered, and I'm equally sure people will argue about this list. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:07:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:EriktheHeartless wrote:but isnt it a beta though? (this game will always be a beta) the beta excuse is a poor one atm tbqh just because its a beta doesnt mean u can continue to drag it on for 3 years before it finally gets work done the game will always be in development but sayin "it will always be in beta" means u are willing to accept a subpar game on the hopes that it will eventually get good. Sorry to disappoint u but most of the console community will not think like this and this game NEEDS a large playerbase to thrive
sorry to dissappoint you but you do not understand sarcasm at all.this game has a great concept that will in my opinion never be reached. all the fanboys keep stating that this game will be played for many many years after release but the lifetime of a game on cosole is far shorter than on pc(even with die hard fans) but with this games poor mechanics and a developer that seems to want everything they do to be shrouded in mystery i think people will tire of this game before beta even ends and it will flop. this is a shame because i had very high hopes for this game but have figured out fairly quick how this is going that is why i am so down on dust.i hope i am proven wrong and this game becomes what we all hoped. |
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