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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:39:00 -
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I, the glorious ReGnUM, was able to encounter this epic local chat between FACTBOI and FANBOI. The events/words that took place will never be forgotten Here is their story:
[Dust: Local Chat] [Amarr Space]
FACTBOI: The graphics, for Dust 514, seem pretty bad for 2012 FANBOI: Its a BETA
FACT:The Core game mechanics of this game seem broken. The hit detection is off, the frame rate is bad, and the lag makes the game unplayable. FANBOI: Its a BETA
FACTBOI: But DUST has been in beta for almost a year now, and they have still have not mastered the basics. You would think a developers first priority for any FPS would be the mechanics, yet their actions seem to go in the opposite direction. Makes me worry if you ask me. FANBOI: Dude... Its a BETA
FACTBOI: Ok. ok, lets say CCP does fix game play in the near future. Then they will have to deal with these huge in game imbalances. Firstly, Their is a huge imbalance between Veterans and new players. Secondly, I really don't understand how the eve to dust isk transfers are not going to break the game. Lastly, The whole skill system really seems too imbalanced to me. The lone fact that some skills increase damage and range makes no sense to me, Let alone, all the other skill perks. FANBOI: It will get fixed. Its a BETA!
FACTBOI: I know it will get fixed. However, I am just worried about how long it will take. It has been almost a year and game play still is not par. Imagine how long it will take to balance the game: all the weapon tuning, internal testing, and updating. Furthermore, CCP has proven that when they try to fix one thing, they just end up creating three new problems. It feels that CCP progress is at a snails pace. FANBOI: FOR THE LAST TIME ITS A BETA! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GAME THEN GTFO.
FACTBOI: I do like the game (kinda why Iam still here), but it would seem that many others do not like the game. Over 100, 000 people are in the BETA.
Quote:Dust 514, he says, is very active, previously telling Joystiq that "hundreds of thousands of people" have joined the closed beta. LINK Anything vet WILL verify that Dust is not very active, and that we barely have 1000 people playing, let alone "Hundreds of thousands" of people playing. FANBOI: For the last time its a Beta @#$%^$#@$%^&%$#@!#$%^& I hate 12 year old COD players who don't understand a work in progress. GTFO and go play COD.
FACTBOI: I guess we are done FANBOI:... ZZZ
([Fast forward to DUST PUBLIC RELEASE])
[Local Dust chat] [Minmatar Space]
FACT: Fixed a lot of the gameplay, but the core of the game is still imbalanced. FANBOI: Its a BET..... I mean Dust is a work in progress.
[And so it begins a new]
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HERCULEZE
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:43:00 -
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TL;DR |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:46:00 -
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Yeah I thought that might be a problem |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:46:00 -
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The it's a beta excuses don't work anymore. Fanboys need to take a sniff of reality and stop being high on delusions.
We all want this game to succeed, just have to be realistic about it. |
INVAILD LOADOUT
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:03:00 -
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LMFAO I hate FANBOYs with a passion |
Lilah Silverstone
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:20:00 -
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The sad state of the gaming world where graphics take place over gameplay :( inb4 "games" just become interactive movies to please the eyes of the easily manipulated target audience |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:22:00 -
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But it is a beta...
That isn't an excuse. It will just really help to clarify your thinking about Dust 514. Everyone knows the game needs work if it is to be a real game that people will invest in and play over months and years. Probably why they have not moved to open beta or beyond. If all of the obvious problems persist through open beta I would probably play for a few weeks after release then lose interest. That is only reasonable.
But that said, pointing out that "Its a beta" is a knee jerk and empty reaction now that it is almost December (when the game was supposed to go live this fall) is almost as pointless as saying "its a beta."
When I want to play a finished console game there's Halo 4, Dark Souls DLC arena mode, and Ok, I'll just go back to Call of Duty BLOPS 2 now. Cause that is out as well.
As far as "balance" I am not investing in a CCP game for the type of balance that you find in Call of Duty. The supposed "imbalance" between vets and new players is something I want to see in game. Whenever I see posts about balance that treat the word with some sort of almost religious fervor and reverence and posts that go on and on about balance I wonder why those advocating for the type of balance where everything is basically the same as everything else are even here.
Some decent, if not bone simple and bloody obvious, well worn points in the OP. But when it comes to balance it seems like some players just cannot comprehend that there is more to gaming than so called "balance." Call it dynamic imbalance, or emergent gameplay, or whatever, but I am really interested in something more than "balance." Many games do balance well, but not many gaming companies strive for anything beyond that. CCP seems to, and that is why I am here.
Edit* I think you said it best yourself, "I really don't understand ..." No one knows how it will all work out, but to me that is a great big positive and shows great promise. It is that leap into the unknown that is exciting and keeps me coming back, despite many dissappointments. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:52:00 -
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But it is beta. :) stupid factboi :P |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:00:00 -
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Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:27:00 -
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@ ReGnUM +1,
But you forgot the other excuse ,
CCP do things differently please add this. |
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:29:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes.
Sorry FANBOI FAN, but I look at reality.
Firstly, When I see a matchmaking system I will change my thread. Secondly, all they did to fix Hit detection was increase aim assist and decrease move speed. sorry I don't consider that a improvement.
Lastly, I will bash CCP as much as like, until they fix this game and make it playable. I am done being kind
FYI just be happy I am bashing on a closed forum. If we did not have NDA I would bash this game on Youtube |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:33:00 -
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The problem is, ReGnUM, CCP probably aren't listening to you, because the content level in your threads is too low. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:31:00 -
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I think its better to be a fanboi who enjoys playing the game despite its flaws, then to be a hateboi who claims to hate the game while spending hours everyday being a wanker on the forums of said game, life is too short to waste, so why don't you move along to something you enjoy? (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style) |
Timbo101
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:05:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote: (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:07:00 -
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KThanxBi! |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:08:00 -
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Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:21:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
So do I, so do I. Just how does a forum poster with so many different alt accounts get so many likes?
How do they do it? |
Icy Stealth
Doomheim
1
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:41:00 -
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See, you were so close to making a constructive thread, then you put this trolling in lol. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:56:00 -
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My favorite response is maybe this game is to complex for you ha ha. The op just nailed the last 3 months of this forum. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.11.27 22:19:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Super Cargo wrote:Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
So do I, so do I. Just how does a forum poster with so many different alt accounts get so many likes? How do they do it?
If I had alt accounts I would have over 9000 likes by now.
Thanks for showing me that thread, now I can be popular. |
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:21:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I think its better to be a fanboi who enjoys playing the game despite its flaws, then to be a hateboi who claims to hate the game while spending hours everyday being a wanker on the forums of said game, life is too short to waste, so why don't you move along to something you enjoy? (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style)
Yes because burrying your head in the sand and saying all is well is the way to sort out problems and flaws the game has |
IK0 Golden Blade
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:31:00 -
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Lol dude called himself glorious nothing here is glorious escpecially not this dude him and dust are both pretty crappy |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:23:00 -
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How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game, you're just complaining it ain't the game you want it to be. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again because your PLAYSTYLE is threatened (6 day Get ISK event really ruined your life, huh?) or that it's a bit broke (We're a year away from release still) to the point I had to block you after you started calling people 'ignorant fanboys' whenever you were proven wrong (The irony of which amused me endlessly). This continued even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:32:00 -
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You need to learn the difference between factboy, opinionboy, and assumptionboy. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:40:00 -
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LOL at CCP listening to Regnum |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:45:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again to the point I had to block you after you started calling people ignorant fanboys whenever you were proven wrong. Even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please.
Who are you again? Do I know you?
Firstly, CCP suggests to be constructive. I refuse. I spent money on this BUST 514 and I intend to wait it out at least until the game releases.
How about you first find something constructive in this waste of 6gb we call a beta, and I might post something constructive.
BTW thanking for proving my point.
Not once has anybody been able to rebuttal my points, all you Fanbois can do is make personal attacks, and say... ITS A BETA.
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Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:58:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again to the point I had to block you after you started calling people ignorant fanboys whenever you were proven wrong. Even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please. Who are you again? Do I know you? Firstly, CCP suggests to be constructive. I refuse. I spent money on this BUST 514 and I intend to wait it out at least until the game releases. How about you first find something constructive in this waste of 6gb we call a beta, and I might post something constructive. BTW thanking for proving my point. Not once has anybody been able to rebuttal my points, all you Fanbois can do is make personal attacks, and say... ITS A BETA.
[email protected] is where you go to request a refund. You can easily free up that 6Gig by uninstalling the beta. Not sorry to see you go, honestly :P
I also love how you respond to everything with "LOL PERSONAL ATTACK" when all you do is exactly that.
Also no one responds to your "points" because you don't make any. You complain because your K/D might get hurt or the game is a bit buggy. We know. CCP most certainly know. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:00:00 -
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What about I am entertained boi? |
Dev Mason
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
17
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:00:00 -
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love this |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:06:00 -
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Being constructive would be much better for you if you want Dust to get fixed and to get your money's worth. You aren't doing yourself any favors by acting like a child if Dust succeeding is in your best interest. Not a smart move to spend money on an unfinished game you think is crap, no one made you pay. |
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BestNameEva
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:18:00 -
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It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:20:00 -
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Man I miss Bek! He will have a field day with all these delusion fanboi's!
I have to say with each new build the game has gotten worst. And here is why.
Replication was probably the best build by far. The only problem was the terrible frame rate and hit detection issues. Also hard freezing every 2 games.
But from a balance stand point, it is the greatest. -Sniping took skill to use -to get to tanks, you need to get LAV V -the balance between tanks and AV was actually balanced because swarms were not useless. Plus many players used swarms because it worked against infantry like it should. -Skirmish was actually fun to play and battle. -heavies were heavies, assaults were assaults, scouts were scouts.
If CCP were to put Replication back in with all the upgrades from the new builds. We would all be congratulating CCP for doing such a great job! It would be fun and balance to play.
CCP has been over nerfing and buffing everything, making the game slower, and it's becoming not that fun. All they need to do is go back to the Replication with all the new gizmos.
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:21:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again to the point I had to block you after you started calling people ignorant fanboys whenever you were proven wrong. Even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please. Who are you again? Do I know you? Firstly, CCP suggests to be constructive. I refuse. I spent money on this BUST 514 and I intend to wait it out at least until the game releases. How about you first find something constructive in this waste of 6gb we call a beta, and I might post something constructive. BTW thanking for proving my point. Not once has anybody been able to rebuttal my points, all you Fanbois can do is make personal attacks, and say... ITS A BETA. [email protected] is where you go to request a refund. You can easily free up that 6Gig by uninstalling the beta. Not sorry to see you go, honestly :P I also love how you respond to everything with "LOL PERSONAL ATTACK" when all you do is exactly that. Also no one responds to your "points" because you don't make any. You complain because your K/D might get hurt or the game is a bit buggy. We know. CCP most certainly know.
Once again zero proof
Not surprised TBH |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:23:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Man I miss Bek! He will have a field day with all these delusion fanboi's!
I have to say with each new build the game has gotten worst. And here is why.
Replication was probably the best build by far. The only problem was the terrible frame rate and hit detection issues. Also hard freezing every 2 games.
But from a balance stand point, it is the greatest. -Sniping took skill to use -to get to tanks, you need to get LAV V -the balance between tanks and AV was actually balanced because swarms were not useless. Plus many players used swarms because it worked against infantry like it should. -Skirmish was actually fun to play and battle. -heavies were heavies, assaults were assaults, scouts were scouts.
If CCP were to put Replication back in with all the upgrades from the new builds. We would all be congratulating CCP for doing such a great job! It would be fun and balance to play.
CCP has been over nerfing and buffing everything, making the game slower, and it's becoming not that fun. All they need to do is go back to the Replication with all the new gizmos.
was replica after e3? |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:23:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Man I miss Bek! He will have a field day with all these delusion fanboi's!
I have to say with each new build the game has gotten worst. And here is why.
Replication was probably the best build by far. The only problem was the terrible frame rate and hit detection issues. Also hard freezing every 2 games.
But from a balance stand point, it is the greatest. -Sniping took skill to use -to get to tanks, you need to get LAV V -the balance between tanks and AV was actually balanced because swarms were not useless. Plus many players used swarms because it worked against infantry like it should. -Skirmish was actually fun to play and battle. -heavies were heavies, assaults were assaults, scouts were scouts.
If CCP were to put Replication back in with all the upgrades from the new builds. We would all be congratulating CCP for doing such a great job! It would be fun and balance to play.
CCP has been over nerfing and buffing everything, making the game slower, and it's becoming not that fun. All they need to do is go back to the Replication with all the new gizmos.
I really don't think anyone is questioning that either, my best experiences with Dust was just before the E3 build, when we had that proper attack\defend map. However I don't delude myself and (neither do CCP, I imagine) believe that this game is even remotely ready, and if it does go out like this, I won't play.
Complaining on the forums like a remedial and calling everyone a fanboy is not productive. Especially not for CCP. Feedback is important, not hissy fits :D |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:24:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:
Once again zero proof
Not surprised TBH
So you do remember me? Go get your refund, scrub ;) |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:24:00 -
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BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc
I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:25:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best.
Are you a professional beta tester?
What game did you test in 1992? |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:31:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best. Are you a professional beta tester? What game did you test in 1992?
remember alone in the dark ,not a multiplayer game and crude by todays standards but it had to be tested a friend from a software company got me into that one. |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:32:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best. Are you a professional beta tester? What game did you test in 1992?
have you??
I Q/A R3 Beta
and O/A Halo 3 and Reach
Furthermore, PDIGGY was a professional Q/A Tester and CCP decided to PERMA ban him for speaking his mind.
GOOD JOB CCP
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Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:34:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:
have you??
I Q/A R3 Beta
and O/A Halo 3 and Reach
Furthermore, PDIGGY was a professional Q/A Tester and CCP decided to PERMA ban him for speaking his mind.
GOOD JOB CCP
Don't lie man. You can't even get QA right.
It's QA, not Q/A.
Quality Assurance, not Quality/Assurance. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:35:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best. Are you a professional beta tester? What game did you test in 1992? have you?? I Q/A R3 Beta and O/A Halo 3 and Reach Furthermore, PDIGGY was a professional Q/A Tester and CCP decided to PERMA ban him for speaking his mind. GOOD JOB CCP
The horror
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:38:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:fenrir storm wrote:BestNameEva wrote:It's a real beta, not the finished game demo betas you get from EA etc I could say alot about this comment but I wont apart from I have participated in may real betas for 20 years now and this one in terms of dev input is pretty shoddy at best. Are you a professional beta tester? What game did you test in 1992? have you?? I Q/A R3 Beta and O/A Halo 3 and Reach Furthermore, PDIGGY was a professional Q/A Tester and CCP decided to PERMA ban him for speaking his mind. GOOD JOB CCP Don't lie man. You can't even get QA right. It's QA, not Q/A. Quality Assurance, not Quality/Assurance.
K bro, still hanging on my every word it would seem
wanna see my pay stubs from bungie |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:40:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:K bro, still hanging on my every word it would seem wanna see my pay stubs from bungie
Jesus man, you're so easy ;) Keep it up! :D
And only if you wanna get thrown out the beta! :D Go read the ToS. It's called a "Conflict of Interest" ...something any half arsed beta tester would know about ;) |
xAceKillerx Killer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:47:00 -
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People of Dust 514 this is a message from the gods respect ReGnUM as your leaders and behold him as your god for he has one of the best KDRs in this game and has contributed valuable information to the developer on how to fix this terrible game. |
Sabyn R
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:15:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes. Sorry FANBOI FAN, but I look at reality. Firstly, When I see a matchmaking system I will change my thread. Secondly, all they did to fix Hit detection was increase aim assist and decrease move speed. sorry I don't consider that a improvement. Lastly, I will bash CCP as much as like, until they fix this game and make it playable. I am done being kind FYI just be happy I am bashing on a closed forum. If we did not have NDA I would bash this game on Youtube
I have to agree considering how long they've been working on this. You can only blame beta for so long before everyone is wondering wtf you're doing and why things are still in crapfest mode. |
IK0 Golden Blade
3
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:43:00 -
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Ima bash anyone and everyone in this forum |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.28 05:51:00 -
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Sabyn R wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes. Sorry FANBOI FAN, but I look at reality. Firstly, When I see a matchmaking system I will change my thread. Secondly, all they did to fix Hit detection was increase aim assist and decrease move speed. sorry I don't consider that a improvement. Lastly, I will bash CCP as much as like, until they fix this game and make it playable. I am done being kind FYI just be happy I am bashing on a closed forum. If we did not have NDA I would bash this game on Youtube I have to agree considering how long they've been working on this. You can only blame beta for so long before everyone is wondering wtf you're doing and why things are still in crapfest mode.
I agree that it sucks that we have not progressed further into this beta. However we can not just blame ccp. Everytime they implement something the community goes 50/50 on it and we get a dillema going. So then we are stuck figuring out wheter there reallly is a problem, and then trying to fix it to where we can all agree.. but we can't agree. It's like american politics developing this game o.0 |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.28 08:47:00 -
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I just saw ReCtUm's name on the OP and knew it wasn't worth reading. So I didn't. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
442
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Posted - 2012.11.28 14:34:00 -
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I'm not English so I'm not really sure, but isn't it supposed to be written boy?
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Ferocitan
EliteTroll Drunk3n H00ligans
4
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:17:00 -
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I got to:
Then I remember I play the game for my own reasons. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.11.28 20:36:00 -
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.... do you guys fall for rangums trolls on purpose or do you just not see it half the time, i mean he made his point in his first two threads and spent the rest of it trolling you guys....
do agree with zitro all i really want is the old game mode back |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.11.28 20:48:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sabyn R wrote:ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes. Sorry FANBOI FAN, but I look at reality. Firstly, When I see a matchmaking system I will change my thread. Secondly, all they did to fix Hit detection was increase aim assist and decrease move speed. sorry I don't consider that a improvement. Lastly, I will bash CCP as much as like, until they fix this game and make it playable. I am done being kind FYI just be happy I am bashing on a closed forum. If we did not have NDA I would bash this game on Youtube I have to agree considering how long they've been working on this. You can only blame beta for so long before everyone is wondering wtf you're doing and why things are still in crapfest mode. I agree that it sucks that we have not progressed further into this beta. However we can not just blame ccp. Everytime they implement something the community goes 50/50 on it and we get a dillema going. So then we are stuck figuring out wheter there reallly is a problem, and then trying to fix it to where we can all agree.. but we can't agree. It's like american politics developing this game o.0 yeah dont blame them for their creation,the nerve of you people it is your fault this game sucks not ccp's.(sarcasm) |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:29:00 -
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it's like i'm reading a forum from the old republic beta.
and we all know how that game turned out. assuming people have an actual taste in video games. |
Stupid Drunk1
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:39:00 -
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Aighun wrote:But it is a beta...
That isn't an excuse. It will just really help to clarify your thinking about Dust 514. Everyone knows the game needs work if it is to be a real game that people will invest in and play over months and years. Probably why they have not moved to open beta or beyond. If all of the obvious problems persist through open beta I would probably play for a few weeks after release then lose interest. That is only reasonable.
As far as "balance" I am not investing in a CCP game for the type of balance that you find in Call of Duty. The supposed "imbalance" between vets and new players is something I want to see in game.Whenever I see posts about balance that treat the word with some sort of almost religious fervor andreverenceand posts that go on and on about balanceI wonder why those advocating for the type of balance where everything is basically the same as everything else are even here.
This game is a simulaton of war, its a game for groups to create countrie. FPS is a tool in DUST 514 to be used to do whatever you can. .1 Culture .2 Criminality, deviance, law and punishment .3 Economic sociology .4 Environment .5 Education .6 Family, gender, and sexuality .7 Health and illness .8 Internet .9 Knowledge and science .10 Literature .11 Media .12 Military .13 Political sociology .14 Race and ethnic relations .15 Religion .16 Social networks .17 Social psychology .18 Stratification .19 Urban and rural sociology .20 Work and industry
An empire involves the extension of a group's sovereignty over external territories. For example, first the Spanish Empire and then the British Empire were called "the empires on which the sun never sets", because of their territories and economies around the globe
Aside from the traditional usage, the term empire can be used in an extended sense to denote a large-scale business enterprise (e.g. a transnational corporation), or a political organisation of either national-, regional- or city scale, controlled either by a person (a political boss) or a group authority (political bosses).
Once player driven markets are implemented balance will get worse, because the amount of money or materials in the universe will not be fixed and, as such, the economy operates under supply and demand
Some dust514 player characters will operate primarily as traders, buying, selling.
When sovereignty is implemented, the ownership of districts on planets that are capable of creating industry. This player ownership system will be dynamic as it will be subject to PvP diplomacy as well as subjugation. It will only create more imbalance
I expect real Dust player to cut the power off to youre house locally just to keep you offline, and, or others, to launch invasions. That's the game I have in mind.
Remember just prior to the Cylon attack on the Colonies, Roslin was the Secretary of Education.
During the attack, Roslin responds to "Case Orange", the official Colonial Government emergency automated signal, and is informed that she is the highest ranking surviving member of the Presidential line of succession, and is sworn in as President
Frankly due to the game's focus on freedom, consequence, and autonomy, many behaviours that are considered griefing, illegal, broken, im-unbalanced in most MMOs are allowed in DUST514.
Yes; there will be tournaments just as the Olympics with rules and balance for the balance type. War however is not the Olympics where countries play nice competivily with rules derka derka harde har har |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:19:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:Aighun wrote:But it is a beta...
That isn't an excuse. It will just really help to clarify your thinking about Dust 514. Everyone knows the game needs work if it is to be a real game that people will invest in and play over months and years. Probably why they have not moved to open beta or beyond. If all of the obvious problems persist through open beta I would probably play for a few weeks after release then lose interest. That is only reasonable.
As far as "balance" I am not investing in a CCP game for the type of balance that you find in Call of Duty. The supposed "imbalance" between vets and new players is something I want to see in game.Whenever I see posts about balance that treat the word with some sort of almost religious fervor andreverenceand posts that go on and on about balanceI wonder why those advocating for the type of balance where everything is basically the same as everything else are even here. This game is a simulaton of war, its a game for groups to create countrie. FPS is a tool in DUST 514 to be used to do whatever you can. .1 Culture .2 Criminality, deviance, law and punishment .3 Economic sociology .4 Environment .5 Education .6 Family, gender, and sexuality .7 Health and illness .8 Internet .9 Knowledge and science .10 Literature .11 Media .12 Military .13 Political sociology .14 Race and ethnic relations .15 Religion .16 Social networks .17 Social psychology .18 Stratification .19 Urban and rural sociology .20 Work and industry An empire involves the extension of a group's sovereignty over external territories. For example, first the Spanish Empire and then the British Empire were called "the empires on which the sun never sets", because of their territories and economies around the globe Aside from the traditional usage, the term empire can be used in an extended sense to denote a large-scale business enterprise (e.g. a transnational corporation), or a political organisation of either national-, regional- or city scale, controlled either by a person (a political boss) or a group authority (political bosses). Once player driven markets are implemented balance will get worse, because the amount of money or materials in the universe will not be fixed and, as such, the economy operates under supply and demand Some dust514 player characters will operate primarily as traders, buying, selling. When sovereignty is implemented, the ownership of districts on planets that are capable of creating industry. This player ownership system will be dynamic as it will be subject to PvP diplomacy as well as subjugation. It will only create more imbalance I expect real Dust player to cut the power off to youre house locally just to keep you offline, and, or others, to launch invasions. That's the game I have in mind. Remember just prior to the Cylon attack on the Colonies, Roslin was the Secretary of Education. During the attack, Roslin responds to "Case Orange", the official Colonial Government emergency automated signal, and is informed that she is the highest ranking surviving member of the Presidential line of succession, and is sworn in as President Frankly due to the game's focus on freedom, consequence, and autonomy, many behaviours that are considered griefing, illegal, broken, im-unbalanced in most MMOs are allowed in DUST514. Yes; there will be tournaments just as the Olympics with rules and balance for the balance type. War however is not the Olympics where countries play nice competivily with rules derka derka harde har har ^
Definition of Evetard
Thankyou for you contribution |
Stupid Drunk1
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:29:00 -
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^ & a SVERTard, and or MAGTard, who wanted the Shadow War as my written contribuiton
Regnum that group youre in, has media, youre group has a culture, a great military, great propagandists, you just really upset the influence you had in MAG, compared to now, is gone. That CCP will not balance the way you want ever, so why try? CCP will be CCP on balance. Ther stuff such a framerate issues, latency, gun mechanics is a legit complaint, other stuff is not! |
Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2012.11.28 23:36:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:Aighun wrote:But it is a beta...
That isn't an excuse. It will just really help to clarify your thinking about Dust 514. Everyone knows the game needs work if it is to be a real game that people will invest in and play over months and years. Probably why they have not moved to open beta or beyond. If all of the obvious problems persist through open beta I would probably play for a few weeks after release then lose interest. That is only reasonable.
As far as "balance" I am not investing in a CCP game for the type of balance that you find in Call of Duty. The supposed "imbalance" between vets and new players is something I want to see in game.Whenever I see posts about balance that treat the word with some sort of almost religious fervor andreverenceand posts that go on and on about balanceI wonder why those advocating for the type of balance where everything is basically the same as everything else are even here. This game is a simulaton of war, its a game for groups to create countrie. FPS is a tool in DUST 514 to be used to do whatever you can. .1 Culture .2 Criminality, deviance, law and punishment .3 Economic sociology .4 Environment .5 Education .6 Family, gender, and sexuality .7 Health and illness .8 Internet .9 Knowledge and science .10 Literature .11 Media .12 Military .13 Political sociology .14 Race and ethnic relations .15 Religion .16 Social networks .17 Social psychology .18 Stratification .19 Urban and rural sociology .20 Work and industry An empire involves the extension of a group's sovereignty over external territories. For example, first the Spanish Empire and then the British Empire were called "the empires on which the sun never sets", because of their territories and economies around the globe Aside from the traditional usage, the term empire can be used in an extended sense to denote a large-scale business enterprise (e.g. a transnational corporation), or a political organisation of either national-, regional- or city scale, controlled either by a person (a political boss) or a group authority (political bosses). Once player driven markets are implemented balance will get worse, because the amount of money or materials in the universe will not be fixed and, as such, the economy operates under supply and demand Some dust514 player characters will operate primarily as traders, buying, selling. When sovereignty is implemented, the ownership of districts on planets that are capable of creating industry. This player ownership system will be dynamic as it will be subject to PvP diplomacy as well as subjugation. It will only create more imbalance I expect real Dust player to cut the power off to youre house locally just to keep you offline, and, or others, to launch invasions. That's the game I have in mind. Remember just prior to the Cylon attack on the Colonies, Roslin was the Secretary of Education. During the attack, Roslin responds to "Case Orange", the official Colonial Government emergency automated signal, and is informed that she is the highest ranking surviving member of the Presidential line of succession, and is sworn in as President Frankly due to the game's focus on freedom, consequence, and autonomy, many behaviours that are considered griefing, illegal, broken, im-unbalanced in most MMOs are allowed in DUST514. Yes; there will be tournaments just as the Olympics with rules and balance for the balance type. War however is not the Olympics where countries play nice competivily with rules derka derka harde har har I think this might be the most ******** post I have read on this forum so far. Holy ****. |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
402
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:11:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:^ & a SVERTard, and or MAGTard, who wanted the Shadow War as my written contribuiton [:pirate: Regnum that group youre in, has media, youre group has a culture, a great military, great propagandists, you just really upset the influence you had in MAG, compared to now, is gone. That CCP will not balance the way you want ever, so why try? CCP will be CCP on balance. Ther stuff such a framerate issues, latency, gun mechanics is a legit complaint, other stuff is not!
I will admit my T1 Sniper skill in MAG was pretty L33Tz., and DUST sniping is not my style. However on the upside, The TAR is starting to fill the hole in my heart that was the HM9O SE... I guess all wounds heal with time.
BTW I hate Sver Eazymode |
Sabyn R
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.12.03 03:57:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game, you're just complaining it ain't the game you want it to be. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again because your PLAYSTYLE is threatened (6 day Get ISK event really ruined your life, huh?) or that it's a bit broke (We're a year away from release still) to the point I had to block you after you started calling people 'ignorant fanboys' whenever you were proven wrong (The irony of which amused me endlessly). This continued even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please.
While I do agree that there is a fanboys are blind. I think I see what the problem is. I was under the impression that the release was going to be much sooner as are probably some other people. So that is why some people are complaining. It appeared as if they were gonna put out something not much different. If what you say is true and it really is going to be that long than I'll cut them SOME slack.lol I had heard it being as soon as January.XD That being said, I do wish they would fix the freeze frame problem. |
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.12.03 04:09:00 -
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Best thread so far |
ReGnUM bEiBer DEI
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Posted - 2012.12.03 04:11:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:^ & a SVERTard, and or MAGTard, who wanted the Shadow War as my written contribuiton Regnum that group youre in, has media, youre group has a culture, a great military, great propagandists, you just really upset the influence you had in MAG, compared to now, is gone. That CCP will not balance the way you want ever, so why try? CCP will be CCP on balance. Ther stuff such a framerate issues, latency, gun mechanics is a legit complaint, other stuff is not! Lol, this evetard's so dumb he can't get his name calling right
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