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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:39:00 -
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I, the glorious ReGnUM, was able to encounter this epic local chat between FACTBOI and FANBOI. The events/words that took place will never be forgotten Here is their story:
[Dust: Local Chat] [Amarr Space]
FACTBOI: The graphics, for Dust 514, seem pretty bad for 2012 FANBOI: Its a BETA
FACT:The Core game mechanics of this game seem broken. The hit detection is off, the frame rate is bad, and the lag makes the game unplayable. FANBOI: Its a BETA
FACTBOI: But DUST has been in beta for almost a year now, and they have still have not mastered the basics. You would think a developers first priority for any FPS would be the mechanics, yet their actions seem to go in the opposite direction. Makes me worry if you ask me. FANBOI: Dude... Its a BETA
FACTBOI: Ok. ok, lets say CCP does fix game play in the near future. Then they will have to deal with these huge in game imbalances. Firstly, Their is a huge imbalance between Veterans and new players. Secondly, I really don't understand how the eve to dust isk transfers are not going to break the game. Lastly, The whole skill system really seems too imbalanced to me. The lone fact that some skills increase damage and range makes no sense to me, Let alone, all the other skill perks. FANBOI: It will get fixed. Its a BETA!
FACTBOI: I know it will get fixed. However, I am just worried about how long it will take. It has been almost a year and game play still is not par. Imagine how long it will take to balance the game: all the weapon tuning, internal testing, and updating. Furthermore, CCP has proven that when they try to fix one thing, they just end up creating three new problems. It feels that CCP progress is at a snails pace. FANBOI: FOR THE LAST TIME ITS A BETA! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GAME THEN GTFO.
FACTBOI: I do like the game (kinda why Iam still here), but it would seem that many others do not like the game. Over 100, 000 people are in the BETA.
Quote:Dust 514, he says, is very active, previously telling Joystiq that "hundreds of thousands of people" have joined the closed beta. LINK Anything vet WILL verify that Dust is not very active, and that we barely have 1000 people playing, let alone "Hundreds of thousands" of people playing. FANBOI: For the last time its a Beta @#$%^$#@$%^&%$#@!#$%^& I hate 12 year old COD players who don't understand a work in progress. GTFO and go play COD.
FACTBOI: I guess we are done FANBOI:... ZZZ
([Fast forward to DUST PUBLIC RELEASE])
[Local Dust chat] [Minmatar Space]
FACT: Fixed a lot of the gameplay, but the core of the game is still imbalanced. FANBOI: Its a BET..... I mean Dust is a work in progress.
[And so it begins a new]
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HERCULEZE
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:43:00 -
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TL;DR |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:46:00 -
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Yeah I thought that might be a problem |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.27 14:46:00 -
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The it's a beta excuses don't work anymore. Fanboys need to take a sniff of reality and stop being high on delusions.
We all want this game to succeed, just have to be realistic about it. |
INVAILD LOADOUT
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:03:00 -
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LMFAO I hate FANBOYs with a passion |
Lilah Silverstone
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:20:00 -
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The sad state of the gaming world where graphics take place over gameplay :( inb4 "games" just become interactive movies to please the eyes of the easily manipulated target audience |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:22:00 -
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But it is a beta...
That isn't an excuse. It will just really help to clarify your thinking about Dust 514. Everyone knows the game needs work if it is to be a real game that people will invest in and play over months and years. Probably why they have not moved to open beta or beyond. If all of the obvious problems persist through open beta I would probably play for a few weeks after release then lose interest. That is only reasonable.
But that said, pointing out that "Its a beta" is a knee jerk and empty reaction now that it is almost December (when the game was supposed to go live this fall) is almost as pointless as saying "its a beta."
When I want to play a finished console game there's Halo 4, Dark Souls DLC arena mode, and Ok, I'll just go back to Call of Duty BLOPS 2 now. Cause that is out as well.
As far as "balance" I am not investing in a CCP game for the type of balance that you find in Call of Duty. The supposed "imbalance" between vets and new players is something I want to see in game. Whenever I see posts about balance that treat the word with some sort of almost religious fervor and reverence and posts that go on and on about balance I wonder why those advocating for the type of balance where everything is basically the same as everything else are even here.
Some decent, if not bone simple and bloody obvious, well worn points in the OP. But when it comes to balance it seems like some players just cannot comprehend that there is more to gaming than so called "balance." Call it dynamic imbalance, or emergent gameplay, or whatever, but I am really interested in something more than "balance." Many games do balance well, but not many gaming companies strive for anything beyond that. CCP seems to, and that is why I am here.
Edit* I think you said it best yourself, "I really don't understand ..." No one knows how it will all work out, but to me that is a great big positive and shows great promise. It is that leap into the unknown that is exciting and keeps me coming back, despite many dissappointments. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.27 15:52:00 -
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But it is beta. :) stupid factboi :P |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:00:00 -
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Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:27:00 -
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@ ReGnUM +1,
But you forgot the other excuse ,
CCP do things differently please add this. |
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:29:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Things have improved, and continued to improve. Sure they're not where they need to be, but they're getting there. Graphics are bad, but they were worse before. Mechanics and hit detection are not perfect, but they were way worse before (especially hit detection). Next build will be primarily fixes.
About the imbalance of players specifically, CCP has confirmed that highsec will have a matchmaking system that matches players by skill points, so they don't get matched with players with far more skill points than they do. If you have a specific constructive solution, go post it in the Feedback/Request forum instead of just bashing.
You complain about the negatives and point to them as if they signify some great failure on CCP's part, yet ignore all the improvements and fixes.
Sorry FANBOI FAN, but I look at reality.
Firstly, When I see a matchmaking system I will change my thread. Secondly, all they did to fix Hit detection was increase aim assist and decrease move speed. sorry I don't consider that a improvement.
Lastly, I will bash CCP as much as like, until they fix this game and make it playable. I am done being kind
FYI just be happy I am bashing on a closed forum. If we did not have NDA I would bash this game on Youtube |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.27 16:33:00 -
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The problem is, ReGnUM, CCP probably aren't listening to you, because the content level in your threads is too low. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.27 17:31:00 -
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I think its better to be a fanboi who enjoys playing the game despite its flaws, then to be a hateboi who claims to hate the game while spending hours everyday being a wanker on the forums of said game, life is too short to waste, so why don't you move along to something you enjoy? (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style) |
Timbo101
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:05:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote: (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.27 18:07:00 -
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KThanxBi! |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:08:00 -
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Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:21:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
So do I, so do I. Just how does a forum poster with so many different alt accounts get so many likes?
How do they do it? |
Icy Stealth
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:41:00 -
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See, you were so close to making a constructive thread, then you put this trolling in lol. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:56:00 -
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My favorite response is maybe this game is to complex for you ha ha. The op just nailed the last 3 months of this forum. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.11.27 22:19:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Super Cargo wrote:Do you ever return to the forums and wonder where all the likes you got came from? I do.
So do I, so do I. Just how does a forum poster with so many different alt accounts get so many likes? How do they do it?
If I had alt accounts I would have over 9000 likes by now.
Thanks for showing me that thread, now I can be popular. |
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:21:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I think its better to be a fanboi who enjoys playing the game despite its flaws, then to be a hateboi who claims to hate the game while spending hours everyday being a wanker on the forums of said game, life is too short to waste, so why don't you move along to something you enjoy? (you seem to like being a twit on forums have you considered trolling dead peoples facebook pages? seems about your style)
Yes because burrying your head in the sand and saying all is well is the way to sort out problems and flaws the game has |
IK0 Golden Blade
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Posted - 2012.11.27 23:31:00 -
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Lol dude called himself glorious nothing here is glorious escpecially not this dude him and dust are both pretty crappy |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:23:00 -
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How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game, you're just complaining it ain't the game you want it to be. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again because your PLAYSTYLE is threatened (6 day Get ISK event really ruined your life, huh?) or that it's a bit broke (We're a year away from release still) to the point I had to block you after you started calling people 'ignorant fanboys' whenever you were proven wrong (The irony of which amused me endlessly). This continued even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:32:00 -
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You need to learn the difference between factboy, opinionboy, and assumptionboy. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:40:00 -
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LOL at CCP listening to Regnum |
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:45:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again to the point I had to block you after you started calling people ignorant fanboys whenever you were proven wrong. Even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please.
Who are you again? Do I know you?
Firstly, CCP suggests to be constructive. I refuse. I spent money on this BUST 514 and I intend to wait it out at least until the game releases.
How about you first find something constructive in this waste of 6gb we call a beta, and I might post something constructive.
BTW thanking for proving my point.
Not once has anybody been able to rebuttal my points, all you Fanbois can do is make personal attacks, and say... ITS A BETA.
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Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.11.28 00:58:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:How has this sociopath got 300 likes?
This _IS_ a beta.
Regnum, you've been about plenty on the IRC chan and that's cool. We need people to hold the developers accountable and give feed back. We all need to contribute... But you're not contributing to the development of this game. All you do in here and on the IRC is moan, moan and moan again to the point I had to block you after you started calling people ignorant fanboys whenever you were proven wrong. Even after CCP devs TOLD YOU you were wrong!
I have to ask, with your blatant trolling and baiting, how have you not been banned yet? How have you not been kicked off the beta? If you're going to post on the forums, make it about the game. If it is about the game I strongly suggest you work on your delivery because it's lost in a wave of crap no one can be bothered wading through.
We're still over 365 days away from release and here you are complaining it's not running\playing like a released game. I think you've played one too many mass marketed betas. This is a real beta, not an exclusive demo. You drag these forums down and i'd like you to keep your drivel to yourself, or get constructive.
Please. Who are you again? Do I know you? Firstly, CCP suggests to be constructive. I refuse. I spent money on this BUST 514 and I intend to wait it out at least until the game releases. How about you first find something constructive in this waste of 6gb we call a beta, and I might post something constructive. BTW thanking for proving my point. Not once has anybody been able to rebuttal my points, all you Fanbois can do is make personal attacks, and say... ITS A BETA.
[email protected] is where you go to request a refund. You can easily free up that 6Gig by uninstalling the beta. Not sorry to see you go, honestly :P
I also love how you respond to everything with "LOL PERSONAL ATTACK" when all you do is exactly that.
Also no one responds to your "points" because you don't make any. You complain because your K/D might get hurt or the game is a bit buggy. We know. CCP most certainly know. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:00:00 -
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What about I am entertained boi? |
Dev Mason
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:00:00 -
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love this |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:06:00 -
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Being constructive would be much better for you if you want Dust to get fixed and to get your money's worth. You aren't doing yourself any favors by acting like a child if Dust succeeding is in your best interest. Not a smart move to spend money on an unfinished game you think is crap, no one made you pay. |
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