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Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2012.11.23 05:24:00 - [1] - Quote now missiles got nerfed straight to hell. Whats next? Deletion of vehicles? Ps. I know missiles were crazy op but now they can't hit a tank 30 feet away from them... They needed to be nerfed but what ccp did was too much.
Vassteel Rydex Double-Down Industry Transmission Lost 12	Posted - 2012.11.23 05:41:00 - [2] - Quote i like the new missiles i can circle strafe them now and kill the tank easier
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2012.11.23 05:46:00 - [3] - Quote Vassteel Rydex wrote: i like the new missiles i can circle strafe them now and kill the tank easier Not for me :( I spent hard earned sp and isk for my tank :(
Vassteel Rydex Double-Down Industry Transmission Lost 12	Posted - 2012.11.23 06:01:00 - [4] - Quote yeah so ? tell me how you have worked so hard to get shinny stuff during a beta and let me guess you expect to keep it all too ?
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2012.11.23 06:08:00 - [5] - Quote Vassteel Rydex wrote: yeah so ? tell me how you have worked so hard to get shinny stuff during a beta and let me guess you expect to keep it all too ? Just like you worked for your stuff. Unless your still running militia. If you are I feel bad for you as you are not playing the game to its fullest potential. Evan tho the game has lost most of it. I'm starting to agree with regnum and his troll posts. Dust is starting to become a bust :(
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 319	Posted - 2012.11.23 06:23:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: Vassteel Rydex wrote: yeah so ? tell me how you have worked so hard to get shinny stuff during a beta and let me guess you expect to keep it all too ? Just like you worked for your stuff. Unless your still running militia. If you are I feel bad for you as you are not playing the game to its fullest potential. Evan tho the game has lost most of it. I'm starting to agree with regnum and his troll posts. Dust is starting to become a bust :( You hadn't worked harder than anyone else here. We all have put in roughly the same amount of time into our characters and the fact that Missiles could OHK anything was broken. They have been put in line with other weapon systems. Just be glad that AV is still a crap shoot.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2012.11.23 06:25:00 - [7] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: Just like you worked for your stuff. Unless your still running militia. If you are I feel bad for you as you are not playing the game to its fullest potential. Evan tho the game has lost most of it. I'm starting to agree with regnum and his troll posts. Dust is starting to become a bust :( LOLOLOLOL Ironically missile spam was one of the reasons why "Dust is a bust"
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2012.11.23 07:42:00 - [8] - Quote If you guys read my first post I agreed with missiles being op but with them being nerfed to uselessness kinda sucks. They are not on par with other weapons as they cant hit there targets ever. get a tank and once you put a large missile launcher on it you will know how badly the got nerfed. EDIT: Grammer fail.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.23 12:39:00 - [9] - Quote I'm another one who agrees Missiles were OP before, but it needs to be said that the nerf was too much - particularly on Large Turrets.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.11.23 12:48:00 - [10] - Quote I think devs need to treat balance changes like application changes change only a few things at a time to work out impact. Balance is an evolution process. Small changes over a long time. Sadly unlike eve you cant math your balance in a shooter because the player himself is also a variable.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.11.23 13:23:00 - [11] - Quote Ive dropped all missiles Can barely seem to kill someone with the large or they sponge the weak splash and run off and the 2nd n 3rd shots dont do owt, if i dont get a direct hit which is now luck of the random missile spread im ****** because i know splash will not work plus the range cap screws you over and if they are in range anyways random missile spread screws you
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.23 17:45:00 - [12] - Quote people need to understand that tanks aren't meant to be independent killing machines. They're supposed to do an extremely good job of heavily supporting, >>>>>and being supported by infantry.<<<<<<<<
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.23 17:55:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: people need to understand that tanks aren't meant to be independent killing machines. They're supposed to do an extremely good job of heavily supporting, >>>>>and being supported by infantry.<<<<<<<< Yes, and right now, with Missiles, they CAN'T do that job. At least not with Large Missile Turrets.
Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2012.11.23 19:44:00 - [14] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: people need to understand that tanks aren't meant to be independent killing machines. They're supposed to do an extremely good job of heavily supporting, >>>>>and being supported by infantry.<<<<<<<< They struggle to support with such weak tanks. Lack of hardners for armour HAVs and too low a buffer with shield. So ideally, they should be pushing forward to allow infantry to push on, but the reality is infantry need to push forward to clear room for tanks. That seems whack.
Jonny Moreau Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 13	Posted - 2012.11.25 03:19:00 - [15] - Quote I'm a tank driver (some of you may know me, others not) I use a railgun most of the time, and i use it fairly effectively against infantry. Yes it was nerfed, yes maybe too much, but i've gotten to the point(with more than a little practice mind you!) where i've hit people out of midair. I have never cared for missile turrets (not good av and hate being killed, and i got morals so i didn't really use em) and i tried them after nerf. I APPROVE. Don't get me wrong, you can't hit the broad side of my tank if you have anything except accelerated missile turrets at long range, but at close range they sittl slaughter, plus they have advantage vs armor, and if, IF you can hit a dropshop they lose almost all control. No complaints from me about the nerf.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.11.25 04:33:00 - [16] - Quote Sytonis Auran wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: people need to understand that tanks aren't meant to be independent killing machines. They're supposed to do an extremely good job of heavily supporting, >>>>>and being supported by infantry.<<<<<<<< They struggle to support with such weak tanks. Lack of hardners for armour HAVs and too low a buffer with shield. So ideally, they should be pushing forward to allow infantry to push on, but the reality is infantry need to push forward to clear room for tanks. That seems whack. tanks need support infantry push forward and deal with the AV and tanks can mop up the rest both infantry and tanks require each other for support not one leading the way and others filter in after
Wako 75 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 76	Posted - 2012.11.25 04:49:00 - [17] - Quote infantry is supposed to have tank support and tank comes in and deystroys people then infantry kills stragallers and takes objective they were op but its like ccp just threw them in the garbage. now if there is a tank on the battlefeild nobody really cares. ccp needs to do a little fixing.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2012.11.25 04:52:00 - [18] - Quote Wako 75 wrote: infantry is supposed to have tank support and tank comes in and deystroys people then infantry kills stragallers and takes objective they were op but its like ccp just threw them in the garbage. now if there is a tank on the battlefeild nobody really cares. ccp needs to do a little fixing. blaster turrets still can cause a lot of damage people just want an invincible killing machine....
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 384	Posted - 2012.11.25 05:22:00 - [19] - Quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! U MAD CALDARIS? HYBRIDS FTW! NOW LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!!
VK deathslaer Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 149	Posted - 2012.11.25 06:11:00 - [20] - Quote when will you guys learn! All my eve bros know what I'm talking about, when CCP nerfs something they go all-in.

Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.11.25 11:42:00 - [21] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! U MAD CALDARIS? HYBRIDS FTW! NOW LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!! Caldari specialize hybrids as well y'know.
DJINN Riot 63	Posted - 2012.11.25 12:16:00 - [22] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: Vassteel Rydex wrote: yeah so ? tell me how you have worked so hard to get shinny stuff during a beta and let me guess you expect to keep it all too ? Just like you worked for your stuff. Unless your still running militia. If you are I feel bad for you as you are not playing the game to its fullest potential. Evan tho the game has lost most of it. I'm starting to agree with regnum and his troll posts. Dust is starting to become a bust :( All i read was WAH WAH WAH This game has no potential because missiles were nerfed.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.25 12:39:00 - [23] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! U MAD CALDARIS? HYBRIDS FTW! NOW LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!! Caldari Railguns are still effective. Better range than Blasters too. And Missiles - at least the Large Turrets - are about due for a buff now.
Mischa Egan Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2012.11.25 13:57:00 - [24] - Quote I fully agree with the op, missiles were bad, they were completely overpowered, so much so there was no reason to use anything else, but now you can completely ignore that missile tank altogether, even if he's shooting at you there's very little chance of it doing any damage at all. I mean I've been running logi since the nerf, and have on many occasions crossed the street right infront of a missile tank without any care in the world, as I knew I was safe from him, sure he tried to do something, but it was kinda pointless. Large rails are probabily fine now, they do their AV job, and can snipe. Large blaster are scary things, as long as someone doesen't have a forge gun handy to 2 shot the tank. Large missiles are a laugh now unless you drive an LAV right in front of the thing. and small turrets? may as well not even exist.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.25 14:45:00 - [25] - Quote Mischa Egan wrote: I fully agree with the op, missiles were bad, they were completely overpowered, so much so there was no reason to use anything else, but now you can completely ignore that missile tank altogether, even if he's shooting at you there's very little chance of it doing any damage at all. I mean I've been running logi since the nerf, and have on many occasions crossed the street right infront of a missile tank without any care in the world, as I knew I was safe from him, sure he tried to do something, but it was kinda pointless. Large rails are probabily fine now, they do their AV job, and can snipe. Large blaster are scary things, as long as someone doesen't have a forge gun handy to 2 shot the tank. Large missiles are a laugh now unless you drive an LAV right in front of the thing. and small turrets? may as well not even exist. Small Missile Turrets are relatively effective against infantry, actually. Not totally useless against other HAVs either. A Blaster/Missile or Railgun/Missile HAV is actually a decent anti-tank fitting. They just need a target that's predictable enough and large enough to hit reliably, and HAVs fit the bill nicely. LAVs can be decent targets as well. Throw in a Hybrid to strip the shields, and the Missiles tear the armour apart pretty nicely. And if you can get a downward angle on infantry (like you get automatically from being on level ground with the top-mounted turret), then you've got a pretty easy low-damage splash shot and a decent chance at landing a direct hit for some real damage.
ReGnUM bEiBer DEI 242	Posted - 2012.11.25 15:33:00 - [26] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! U MAD CALDARIS? HYBRIDS FTW! NOW LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!! Caldari specialize hybrids as well y'know. More caldari ships are missile boats than hybrid platform
ReGnUM bEiBer DEI 242	Posted - 2012.11.25 15:35:00 - [27] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! U MAD CALDARIS? HYBRIDS FTW! NOW LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!! Caldari Railguns are still effective. Better range than Blasters too. And Missiles - at least the Large Turrets - are about due for a buff now. Better range but at a loss of destructive power
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2012.11.25 15:55:00 - [28] - Quote I actually love rails how they are. They require skill and once you get good heavies can try to forge all they want but I can shoot farther and one hit kill. Only think they need to fix now is head glitching and also smooth out the terrain or fix that if I am shooting at someones and somehow my rail hits a magic wall as a forge gunner can shoot at me from the other side or a swarmers can hide and keep swarming me behind this magic wall that my shot keeps hitting. But rails are where they are suppose to be. Now missiles are another story. The big problem with missiles is that CCP is trying to make them good at everything. You can anti infantry while still able to ripe other vehicles apart. You can never make something balanced in a video game yet be good at everything. It will always be over powered in or useless because they have to keep it nerfed to keep it from being over powered. They need to seperate out the missile turret roles. You can make missile turrets good at everything but you need to force the tanker to pick the turret for the job. Have one style of turret great at infantry and have another style of the missile turrets great at just AVing.


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