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Jason Punk
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.19 22:52:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Im pretty sure if this was the planetside 2 forum it would be the opposite and have the same huge list. Shooters are always about endless pointless war, what changes is the experience in the endless pointless war in a FPS. Depending on how strong the connection will be with Eve Dust will have the same feel PS2 has in my opinion with out the player count feel. The potential feeling is always higher than the reality of things. Ive read the Eve forums once or twice to see that Eve players dont want dust to effect Eve at all and pretty adamant about it. if we cant effect the MMORPG what are we doing then that is different from a huge continent warfare?
Im not here to craft,mine,and sell things weapons that cater to the minority of players that a RPG can make faster then we can. I want the feel of war in my matches that MAG had and old battlefield games had that you see shine in PS2 and not Dust.
I'm so glad you asked. ^^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49714
Take a gander and sorry for no TL;DR
It's not entirely true that the Eve Community is against Dust 514. Actually, I think that perception is very much off as they have been excited about it for a good 4-5 years and have looked forward to it every fanfest. However, there is a lot of questions running around and even worse, a lot of misinformation on how the game works and feels now.
As for gameplay, they are a finished product and we have taken a much longer, more difficult route of making this more of a project and less of a "release". The game is ass-backwards in many ways from the proposed vision, but that is not news to anyone who originally cast that vision, including it's players. This is a very long term spacey-warfare dream and always has been since it made it's way from a few forum threads and 5+ years of production through economics and primary community challenges.
One thing in the CSM notes to take a look at was the overwhelming desire to define 0.0 and create more "permanent" territory with more desire to attack and defend it for gain and for pain. Take a few of the things from this link's thread and see how they line up. If we could just flesh it out some more, I'd love to present this idea fully on the Eve Forums. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.20 09:04:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Im pretty sure if this was the planetside 2 forum it would be the opposite and have the same huge list. Shooters are always about endless pointless war, what changes is the experience in the endless pointless war in a FPS. Depending on how strong the connection will be with Eve Dust will have the same feel PS2 has in my opinion with out the player count feel. The potential feeling is always higher than the reality of things. Ive read the Eve forums once or twice to see that Eve players dont want dust to effect Eve at all and pretty adamant about it. if we cant effect the MMORPG what are we doing then that is different from a huge continent warfare?
Im not here to craft,mine,and sell things weapons that cater to the minority of players that a RPG can make faster then we can. I want the feel of war in my matches that MAG had and old battlefield games had that you see shine in PS2 and not Dust. Whats different is that we affect the game.Unlike PS2 dust is only on one server with EVE.Think of it this way in PS2 the continents always switch hands every few days and there really isnt any effect on the game its not deep at all.But in Dust....Ok heres a story.Ur about to finish a hack which will help u win.But right then u get headshoted by a sniper.This makes your team lose.There corp gains that territory and resources.Because the money they were paid for takin it they are well supplied.They just happen to be more supplied than everyone else on th planet.Simply put they take it over.And was the last planet needed for the corp to own the cluster.Thing was that planet belonged to a very rich corp.As revenge they....You see where im going with this? |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.01.20 14:07:00 -
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forgive me with the spellings because i dont know total eve lore.
Like I said to a person that plays Eve this game is amazing , but if you dont at the moment it has the same concept as PS2 with out the faction warfare. Our corps are made up of every race in the game now, its not galante versus emur. As a dust player other than bragging rights why should i care about owning this planet? if its all about ISK determined by 8vs 8 Corp battles who rolled in with all their booster AUR player tanks then i dont think MMOFPS fans will be very impressed. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.21 20:53:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:forgive me with the spellings because i dont know total eve lore.
Like I said to a person that plays Eve this game is amazing , but if you dont at the moment it has the same concept as PS2 with out the faction warfare. Our corps are made up of every race in the game now, its not galante versus emur. As a dust player other than bragging rights why should i care about owning this planet? if its all about ISK determined by 8vs 8 Corp battles who rolled in with all their booster AUR player tanks then i dont think MMOFPS fans will be very impressed. Because planets give you resources and get u paid |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:05:00 -
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As a dust player your not going to craft anything why do you need resources? As a dust player your not going to stop a Eve player from collecting any resources or hold it hostage? As a dust player you will never earn enough money to offset a Eve transfer?
Before the last wipe you know how much of that crap i salvage i used in 4 months absolutely nothing.
Since the game is all about SP , its just numbers on a screen and its just going to get high enough that you dont care. Fighting just for in game currency and no point gets boring way to fast. There is only so many tables and paintings i want to buy for my merc quarters. You can say gear but FPS players tend to get comfortable with the gear they like in a game to want to constantly change it.
Its ok to say I dont know when we were given a vague explanation instead of running with the vague statement as it solves every question. |
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