It has frame rate issues right now. If you turn down certain things it becomes perfectly playable. I haven't noticed any lag myself. Are you playing on a server in the right part of the world?

Killing people and completing objectives doesn't have the same weight to it as in Dust, but that's to be expected, as it's not ever going to be something with an actual economy and so on. It's meant to be a game you just hop into, kill some people, and have a good time without needing to give it much thought. In that respect it is much better than Dust is. But, there are a LOT of weapons/etc to be unlocked, and most unlocked stuff can be upgraded, and killing/capturing gets you points with which to upgrade stuff. So there definitely is some reward for winning.

Teamwork in Planetside is more pronounced. You have specific classes, with weapons/abilities totally locked out depending the class you have equipped at the moment. Only two classes get anti-armor weaponry, only one can heal, only one can repair or restore ammo, etc. You need to rely on people about the same as in Dust.

I have no idea how you could say it doesn't need skill. In fact, it requires even more skill, as the weapons in it are not hitscan and therefore you need to lead targets and compensate for drop (apart from Vanu energy weapons).

This carries over to sniper rifles as well. In Planetside 2, sniper rifles: Have bullet drop, have bullet travel time, and leave a tracer in the air as they're fired. Most of them also only kill in one hit if you get a headshot. So sniper rifles, in particular, require much more skill in that game than in Dust, where you just point and click like an imbecile.

Flying is fine. It's not as finnicky as in Dust, but there's actual dogfighting and maneuvering around and so on. It's hard to compare a game like Dust, where battlefields are tiny and the only aircraft is the dropship, to flying around a huge map in something that's a weird mix between a jet and a helicopter.


Areas Planetside does well are many.
- It does sniper rifles fairly well, but even then I take exception to the one-hit-kill sniper rifles. I imagine they might get nerfed, as they did state they didn't want OHK weaponry, but we'll see. Anyway, sniping actually takes some skill in that game for long-range shooting. Dust could learn from it.

- You can customize your armor configuration, your helmet, your armor colour scheme, your weapon colour scheme, your insignia, and you earn titles as you rank up/etc. Vehicles can also be customized in a similar way. Planetside 2 has a lot of customization options, and will only add more as things move forward. Dust, by contrast, has armour colouration that exists only for one armor type, and gets away when you die wearing that armor. In Planetside, you buy a colour scheme, apply it to an armor/weapon/vehicle, and it's yours forever.

- You can spend money in Planetside to unlock weapons/etc sooner, but all weapons/etc can be unlocked via points earned in-game as well. Nothing is exclusively paid-for. Overall it handles the stuff players pay for and what they don't need to pay for much, much better than Dust. Maybe CCP has plans for stuff later, but of course they've not even hinted at it, so at this point I'll assume all their plans are is for guns and armor that cost 6 cents and go away when you die with them.

- From the get-go you can use any class type, any vehicle. You don't have all the options available to you, but you can still do some damage in a stock tank, and can still be an effective support or sniper character without investing any points into upgrades. It's cool, because you can play a lot of different ways whenever you want. In Dust, you're much more limited by your finances and your skills.

- Large battles are very impressive. Swarms of tanks and aircraft, attacking some massive base at night on a wintery continent, with the aurora borealis streaming overhead and tracers lighting up the skill, is impressive to behold. It is an epic game.

- The continents are nice and interesting. Arid badlands sort of continent, a grasslands one, and an arctic one. It's nice having terrain variety. "Dusty industrial hellscape" has its charms, but it does get old.


Anywya, bottom line is you're on drugs if you think this game is a failure. Years from now, when Dust is out of beta and all the stuff we keep saying "well JUST YOU WAIT until it's added!" about is actually added, it will be the superior game. For now, however, Planetside 2 is a lot of fun and will keep you entertained a good long while.

been playing it for 2 days now, and its WAY MORE FUN THAN DUST. I came here cause I dont have my PC right now to play it, and I was hoping that CCP would wake up, and realize that PS2 is what Dust should have been.

scrap this game. remake it from the ground up to be a real MMOFPS. put it on PS4 instead of PS3, since that has better RAM to handle a large persistent game world to battle in.

It isn't any more repetitive than Dust. There's much more variety in the places you fight in Planetside. Continent locks don't last forever. You take over a continent, you hold it briefly and get a discount on tanks or something, and then the other two empires begin pushing you back. You get to keep the bonus until the continent is taken by another side, but it's essentially a continuous swapping of continents. This, incidentally, is Planetside's weakest area and where Dust will eventually have it beat, as both Faction Wars and nullsec will be far more engaging.

Bullet drop and bullet travel time don't make it really hard to shoot, but it certainly makes it more hard than in Dust. Hitscan weapons, especially for snipers, are trivially easy to use. I don't think it's such a major point either way, but to say that it doesn't require skill and yet Dust does is silly. Nothing in Dust requires any more skill than in Planetside. Even being a medic, you need to actually hover over a dead friendly for a few seconds to revive them instead of Dust's instantaneous method.

Anyway, Planetside has its own niche. It's very different from Dust. They aren't competing. People who want really big wars where you don't lose anything if you win or lose will have a lot of fun with Planetside. People who like smaller battles where the stakes are bigger will like Dust. It's possible to like both of them too, though. And definitely acting as if Planetside 2 has nothing to offer is just a mistake.

Planetside 2 is going to be developed into the future as well, so how about its exciting possibilities?

Dust is going to have only temperate planet types for probably a couple years or so. Given the pace they've been developing this game at I don't imagine they'll have all of those planet types introduced within the next 5 years. And the Planetside devs have expressed interest in both space and naval combat. Plus they'll be introducing new continents (which have new terrain types, like volcanic terrain) as they go.

Im pretty sure if this was the planetside 2 forum it would be the opposite and have the same huge list. Shooters are always about endless pointless war, what changes is the experience in the endless pointless war in a FPS. Depending on how strong the connection will be with Eve Dust will have the same feel PS2 has in my opinion with out the player count feel. The potential feeling is always higher than the reality of things. Ive read the Eve forums once or twice to see that Eve players dont want dust to effect Eve at all and pretty adamant about it. if we cant effect the MMORPG what are we doing then that is different from a huge continent warfare?

Im not here to craft,mine,and sell things weapons that cater to the minority of players that a RPG can make faster then we can. I want the feel of war in my matches that MAG had and old battlefield games had that you see shine in PS2 and not Dust.

forgive me with the spellings because i dont know total eve lore.

Like I said to a person that plays Eve this game is amazing , but if you dont at the moment it has the same concept as PS2 with out the faction warfare. Our corps are made up of every race in the game now, its not galante versus emur. As a dust player other than bragging rights why should i care about owning this planet? if its all about ISK determined by 8vs 8 Corp battles who rolled in with all their booster AUR player tanks then i dont think MMOFPS fans will be very impressed.