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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:

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Dear players,

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This November 21-26, CCP is offering DUST 514 beta mercenaries huge savings on all vehicles as well as expanding ISK rewards to wallet bursting amounts in our upcoming event, Get ISK or Die Trying.

During the week-long event, all LAVs, HAVs, and dropships are 50% off in the market place, and ISK baseline rewards will be up to three times the normal rate. So logon, drop in, and hit pay dirt this Thanksgiving holiday as we hot-drop rewards so you can stockpile riches and vehicles!

The life of an interstellar mercenary is carved of blood and cold steel. But, this event is that silver lining you heard about in seedy roadhouses told by veteran mercs, so lock and load and clear some space in your garage.

I believe utter shock was my first response to this god awful event. I am all for increasing the baseline ISK rewards, but making vehicles (alone) cheaper is just plain idiotic.

Do you even listen to your community, there are countless threads about how OP missile turrets have become, yet you're making the things that equip them much cheaper. Your basically asking for people to abuse a broken game mechanic... sounds fun o_O.

Furthermore, Why would you not lower the price of the weapons that kill vehicles. With this new event it is even more cost effective to run a tank then Infantry...CHEERS! The one enjoyment of this game, as a infantry player, was that when you saw Sagris blow up, you thought hahahahah "take that one to the bank". However, it would seem that CCP has taken even that enjoyment from me Cry

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Lastly, CCP WHY DO YOU HATE INFANTRY SO MUCH? Why would you not make Dropsuits also cheaper?My most expensive suit cost me 275 000 isk per death. That is like half a tank. However unlike a tank, my suit is hurt by everything: small arm fire, sniper rifles, grenades, precision strikes, Rail guns, missile turrets, blasters, and FORGE GUNS. I guess it was my mistake for skilling up into infantry this build , and not vehicles... My bad :S . My suit might be 1/4 of a tank, but I can guarantee it not worth its weight in isk when compared to a tank.

How to fix the problem?

1.Fix the maps and the missile turrets

2. Scrap the whole event

3. Make AV and drop-suits 50%

CCP Iam tired of you not guys not thinking things through. You refuse to fix missile turrets, yet you decide to make the things that use them cheaper. This beyond idiotic, and is showing how much you listen to you your Community .

Nov 21-26 WELCOME TO PS3 TANK WARS 514
You will see me in the redline getting pub stomped by one lone SAGRIS with missile turrets

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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:02:00 - [1] - Quote LINK Dear players, Quote: This November 21-26, CCP is offering DUST 514 beta mercenaries huge savings on all vehicles as well as expanding ISK rewards to wallet bursting amounts in our upcoming event, Get ISK or Die Trying. During the week-long event, all LAVs, HAVs, and dropships are 50% off in the market place, and ISK baseline rewards will be up to three times the normal rate. So logon, drop in, and hit pay dirt this Thanksgiving holiday as we hot-drop rewards so you can stockpile riches and vehicles! The life of an interstellar mercenary is carved of blood and cold steel. But, this event is that silver lining you heard about in seedy roadhouses told by veteran mercs, so lock and load and clear some space in your garage. I believe utter shock was my first response to this god awful event. I am all for increasing the baseline ISK rewards, but making vehicles (alone) cheaper is just plain idiotic. Do you even listen to your community, there are countless threads about how OP missile turrets have become, yet you're making the things that equip them much cheaper. Your basically asking for people to abuse a broken game mechanic... sounds fun o_O. Furthermore, Why would you not lower the price of the weapons that kill vehicles. With this new event it is even more cost effective to run a tank then Infantry...CHEERS! The one enjoyment of this game, as a infantry player, was that when you saw Sagris blow up, you thought hahahahah "take that one to the bank". However, it would seem that CCP has taken even that enjoyment from me. Lastly, CCP WHY DO YOU HATE INFANTRY SO MUCH? Why would you not make Dropsuits also cheaper?My most expensive suit cost me 275 000 isk per death. That is like half a tank. However unlike a tank, my suit is hurt by everything: small arm fire, sniper rifles, grenades, precision strikes, Rail guns, missile turrets, blasters, and FORGE GUNS. I guess it was my mistake for skilling up into infantry this build , and not vehicles... My bad :S . My suit might be 1/4 of a tank, but I can guarantee it not worth its weight in isk when compared to a tank. How to fix the problem? 1.Fix the maps and the missile turrets 2. Scrap the whole event 3. Make AV and drop-suits 50% CCP Iam tired of you not guys not thinking things through. You refuse to fix missile turrets, yet you decide to make the things that use them cheaper. This beyond idiotic, and is showing how much you listen to you your Community . Nov 21-26 WELCOME TO PS3 TANK WARS 514 You will see me in the redline getting pub stomped by one lone SAGRIS with missile turrets
Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:08:00 - [2] - Quote CCP might have surprises in store for us showing how nerfed HAVs have become instead of nerfing missiles and shields.
Vexen Krios Doomheim 95	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:09:00 - [3] - Quote im going to have to agree, with the countless threads complaining about vehicles, CCP decides to make them cheaper. Are you trying to get us to skill more into vehicles??? Im sorry i get my satisfaction from going toe to toe with another infantry player. In the end that says who is the better player, or least of all has the better gear. This just says "look!! how about we let everyone who has skilled into tanks, lavs, and dropships rule the maps even more!!" I may sign in just to try and get the isk rewards, but with all the vehicle spamming i doubt ill be able to do much Isk gaining...time to buy more AV nades, and Forge Gungs...FML
IK0 Golden Blade 3	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:09:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: ]Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:12:00 - [5] - Quote IK0 Golden Blade wrote: [quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=Villore Isu] Quote: Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon. :( ccp give us a complete game
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:15:00 - [6] - Quote IK0 Golden Blade wrote: [quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=Villore Isu] Quote: Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon. Sorry Iam not FANBOY who is swayed by a Devs word alone. Unless I see hard facts and patch notes, the status quo still stands
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:15:00 - [7] - Quote my heading suggestion was better.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 191	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:15:00 - [8] - Quote I think that it will be a lot of fun with hundreds militia tanks and dropships shooting each other and exploding. See this as an opportunity to test veichles yourself for cheap.
IK0 Golden Blade 3	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:16:00 - [9] - Quote ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: IK0 Golden Blade wrote: [quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=Villore Isu] Quote: Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon. Sorry Iam not FANBOY who is swayed by a Devs word alone. Unless I see hard facts and patch notes, the status quo still stands And you think im a fanboy? sad sad regnum
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 363	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:16:00 - [10] - Quote You get more ISK in rewards for killing vehicles. Seems like that's what is supposed to be going on at least. And they're also increasing rewards in general so it looks like they're trying to get lots more AV players in the field. People complain about the vehicle spam and yet in a lot of matches I'm the only forge gunner out there. The gear is too expensive and dying is too easy for people to do it. There's a couple threads on how forge guns just aren't worth it because they're too expensive when you die while at the same time you die constantly because there's not enough forge gunners.

ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:19:00 - [11] - Quote IK0 Golden Blade wrote: ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: [quote=IK0 Golden Blade][quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=Villore Isu] Sorry Iam not FANBOY who is swayed by a Devs word alone. Unless I see hard facts and patch notes, the status quo still stands And you think im a fanboy? sad sad regnum Sorry were you not quoting a Devs word, that had no backing whatsoever. Which you thought, was the solution to all our problems. Sounds like FANBOY
IK0 Golden Blade 3	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:23:00 - [12] - Quote Quote: Sorry were you not quoting a Devs word, that had no backing whatsoever. Which you thought, was the solution to all our problems. Sounds like FANBOY Lmao dude your delousional did i say one word of believing it? now from me quoting one thing a dev said automatically made me a fanboy? i hate this game currently **** is riducolus at this current state and i do have a list of conplaints so next time you call someone a fanboy brush up in some facts
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:26:00 - [13] - Quote IK0 Golden Blade wrote: Quote: Sorry were you not quoting a Devs word, that had no backing whatsoever. Which you thought, was the solution to all our problems. Sounds like FANBOY Lmao dude your delousional did i say one word of believing it? now from me quoting one thing a dev said automatically made me a fanboy? i hate this game currently **** is riducolus at this current state and i do have a list of conplaints so next time you call someone a fanboy brush up in some facts ReGNuM APPROVES THIS ...happy and maybe next time you should articulate a bit more instead of just quoting
Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:28:00 - [14] - Quote ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: LINK Dear players, Quote: This November 21-26, CCP is offering DUST 514 beta mercenaries huge savings on all vehicles as well as expanding ISK rewards to wallet bursting amounts in our upcoming event, Get ISK or Die Trying. During the week-long event, all LAVs, HAVs, and dropships are 50% off in the market place, and ISK baseline rewards will be up to three times the normal rate. So logon, drop in, and hit pay dirt this Thanksgiving holiday as we hot-drop rewards so you can stockpile riches and vehicles! The life of an interstellar mercenary is carved of blood and cold steel. But, this event is that silver lining you heard about in seedy roadhouses told by veteran mercs, so lock and load and clear some space in your garage. I believe utter shock was my first response to this god awful event. I am all for increasing the baseline ISK rewards, but making vehicles (alone) cheaper is just plain idiotic. Do you even listen to your community, there are countless threads about how OP missile turrets have become, yet you're making the things that equip them much cheaper. Your basically asking for people to abuse a broken game mechanic... sounds fun o_O. Furthermore, Why would you not lower the price of the weapons that kill vehicles. With this new event it is even more cost effective to run a tank then Infantry...CHEERS! The one enjoyment of this game, as a infantry player, was that when you saw Sagris blow up, you thought hahahahah "take that one to the bank". However, it would seem that CCP has taken even that enjoyment from me. Lastly, CCP WHY DO YOU HATE INFANTRY SO MUCH? Why would you not make Dropsuits also cheaper?My most expensive suit cost me 275 000 isk per death. That is like half a tank. However unlike a tank, my suit is hurt by everything: small arm fire, sniper rifles, grenades, precision strikes, Rail guns, missile turrets, blasters, and FORGE GUNS. I guess it was my mistake for skilling up into infantry this build , and not vehicles... My bad :S . My suit might be 1/4 of a tank, but I can guarantee it not worth its weight in isk when compared to a tank. How to fix the problem? 1.Fix the maps and the missile turrets 2. Scrap the whole event 3. Make AV and drop-suits 50% CCP Iam tired of you not guys not thinking things through. You refuse to fix missile turrets, yet you decide to make the things that use them cheaper. This beyond idiotic, and is showing how much you listen to you your Community . Nov 21-26 WELCOME TO PS3 TANK WARS 514 You will see me in the redline getting pub stomped by one lone SAGRIS with missile turrets It's an incentive to get people on to test vehicles en-mass to really look at their balance and address what needs changing. They're looking for MASSIVE ammounts of raw data, especially vehicle vs vehicle. As far as i'm concerned, it's painfully obvious. Let's stop with the knee-jerk reactions and remind ourselves this is a beta.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:30:00 - [15] - Quote Was it really necessary to re-post this in a separate thread?
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:33:00 - [16] - Quote arimal lavaren wrote: Was it really necessary to re-post this in a separate thread? I am explaining why it was a bad idea in concrete arguments
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.11.19 16:11:00 - [17] - Quote Dear god it isnt a troll thread. I dunno Regnum... it might be too late for anyone to take your seriously, perhaps you should have taken it a little easier on trolling anyone and everything if you planned on actually sounding intelligent in the future.
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 16:37:00 - [18] - Quote Jariel Manton wrote: Dear god it isnt a troll thread. I dunno Regnum... it might be too late for anyone to take your seriously, perhaps you should have taken it a little easier on trolling anyone and everything if you planned on actually sounding intelligent in the future. cool story bro....
DEADPOOL5241 Doomheim 212	Posted - 2012.11.19 16:43:00 - [19] - Quote Jariel Manton wrote: Dear god it isnt a troll thread. I dunno Regnum... it might be too late for anyone to take your seriously, perhaps you should have taken it a little easier on trolling anyone and everything if you planned on actually sounding intelligent in the future. I read this whole thread and was waiting for the troll to appear but no its a real thread and even odder is that I agree with the whole post. I really do, CCP doing half cost vehicles when its already apparent that vehicles are the bane of this game so far, its like CCP sees the flame war going on in the forums and game and decides to throw gasoline on the whole mess to see how high they can make the flame go. If CCP is testing to see if there is going to be memory issues or lag when you get vehicles, there are better ways to test this then to bombard the whole game with more of them. Many of us have taken this build off, weather to play other games or to just not play this build with all of its issues. But either way, CCP its like you have blinders on when it comes to this game and the players. I never thought I'd say this, but +1 to Regenum for a proper thread I 100% support stopping this event and CCP pulling its head out of its ass.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.11.19 16:47:00 - [20] - Quote Let's us test vehicles alot easier with them being cheaper. I for one don't use missiles on my Tank (BLASTER **** YEAH!) And I usually point the front end at a wall if I have a blue dot in it so they don't fire. We've already shown missiles are broken, just working on these Blasters to see any bad points or good points to them. May also let us have actual tank fights. I don't see it as a bad thing personally, sounds like a good way to test vehicles.

Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.11.19 16:48:00 - [21] - Quote a pseudo constructive thread from this guy, interesting. Anyways, this event doesn't really bother me as I assume they are looking for more data/feedback on vehicles to better balance the game in the future. All that is needed to solve the problem are maps/districts that are indoor and therefore do not warrant vehicles...
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1062	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:17:00 - [22] - Quote You say there was vehicle spam before? CCP is showing us what real vehicle spam is, and seeing how we deal with it.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2048	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:23:00 - [23] - Quote 5 day break from beta testing anyone? except for vehicle drivers hope you have fun
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1041	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:33:00 - [24] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: 5 day break from beta testing anyone? except for vehicle drivers hope you have fun yeah sounds like a plan
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:39:00 - [25] - Quote I guess It was my mistake to solely spec into infantry vs infantry.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2048	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:39:00 - [26] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: 5 day break from beta testing anyone? except for vehicle drivers hope you have fun yeah sounds like a plan Better yet I will just be sniper mountain camping this week, no reason to die senselessly on the ground. Good look on Manus Peak everyone ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: I guess It was my mistake to solely spec into infantry vs infantry. Yep, you done goofed. Good luck against missile spam.
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.19 17:44:00 - [27] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Free Beers wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: 5 day break from beta testing anyone? except for vehicle drivers hope you have fun yeah sounds like a plan Better yet I will just be sniper mountain camping this week, no reason to die senselessly on the ground. Good look on Manus Peak everyone Teach me master
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.11.19 18:29:00 - [28] - Quote Yes this is a very interesting development, one I can't say I agree with even though I use tanks + derpships. GNN Article on the issue has been posted with citations from this thread. http://gnn.enjin.com/classifieds/m/7595933/viewthread/4932656-community-stabs-back-over-cheap-vehicles/page/1
R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2012.11.19 19:54:00 - [29] - Quote 1. ISK price drop on vehicles 2. Everyone rushes out and buys dropships & tanks 3. New build comes out with massive nerfs for dropships & tanks 4. People start screaming about the nerf, then realise they only paid half price 5. Players start throwing their half price vehicles into games with reckless abandon 6. Players learn how to make the nerfed vehicles playable after all 7. Smiles all round Well, obviously not #7, 'cos this is the Dust forums Stranger things have happened.
Blunt Smkr Doomheim 62	Posted - 2012.11.19 21:17:00 - [30] - Quote ccp just gave a big middle finger to all the infantry players that play cause of this event lol at least that how i see it. but oh well if it goes ****** this week for me i'll probably just go pay ac3 or dishonored until the event is over



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