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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.16 19:51:00 -
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Wondering if anything has changed? Last I played the framerate floated right around 20FPS most of the time, controls twitched to much, and dropships couldn't fly, they just kinda hovered at stupidly low heights. Tanks were weak, snipers dominated, and swarm launchers sucked.
Has anything improved since then, or should I just continue to patiently await the next build? |

Roy Bombega
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.11.16 19:58:00 -
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i've only been playing for a few days, but tanks seem really powerful. the rocket pod main gun is insane, plus you get 2 extra gunner seats with their own rocket launchers, on top of having long range capability and infinite ammo. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:04:00 -
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As I recall, they're pretty squishy if anyone is smart enough to pull out a forge. |

Roy Bombega
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:05:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:As I recall, they're pretty squishy if anyone is smart enough to pull out a forge.
that may still be the case, i haven't seen the forge gun in action very much. but whenever i see a tank, they're usually pretty close to their uncap spamming a far away control point. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:08:00 -
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Perhaps they're back to their E3 glory now then. |

Roy Bombega
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:09:00 -
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well if this is going to be the norm, im imagining dust on release will just be world of tanks: eve edition. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:14:00 -
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That's what everyone said in E3, but you still saw dropships, LAV's, AV specs, and Assaults everywhere. Don't worry, it wont be world of tanks, AV is viable enough that they can save a game, or atleast it used to be. |

Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:15:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:As I recall, they're pretty squishy if anyone is smart enough to pull out a forge. pulling a forge is one thing, if the pilot is any decent at fittings he can eat forge gun hits and either move away from where the shot is comming from or just fire one missile and kill the forge gunner before the second shot is even made.
the only way to really kill is if you have 3-4 forge guns for a single tank and that is pushing it. you can still be hunting the tank for the rest of the match because the tank will just move to a location so he can fire his rockets at any point on the map while the forge gunners have to move to attempt to get decent shots off without being slaughtered.
i run around with swarms and even when moving around dodging the seemingly unlimited snipers the enemy always has i still only scratch the tank only to have it move to a new location in less than 10 seconds so i have to make the minute long trek to a new spot to keep the tank away from points. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:19:00 -
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So they are back to their E3 glory again? SWEET! Was so pissed when they nefred tanks, 2 shots from a forge was way to easy. I'll have to spec back into AV and a get a squad again sometime.  |

Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:23:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:So they are back to their E3 glory again? SWEET! Was so pissed when they nefred tanks, 2 shots from a forge was way to easy. I'll have to spec back into AV and a get a squad again sometime.  a squad of AV still can't take down vehicles.
you pretty much just scratch it and if the pilot is a box of hair you may destroy it. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:41:00 -
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oh... its one of these threads |

JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2012.11.16 21:17:00 -
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Play the damn game and find out for yourself |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.17 01:14:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Play the damn game and find out for yourself I was at school when I posted, was curious if it's worth logging on when I get home. |

Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.11.17 01:34:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Perhaps they're back to their E3 glory now then.
Not quite. The railgun is complete garbage. Dropships have that role now. If theres a dropship out and noone can forge, you lose. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.17 01:56:00 -
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I thought dropships just sucked cause of the flight ceiling now? |

Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.11.17 02:04:00 -
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The ceiling is an unnatural limitation that makes flying more difficult, but it doesn't prevent a dropship from being effective. The trick is to know the hills you can't fly over and plan your flight path accordingly. |

Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.11.17 02:05:00 -
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And given that we ay not have another character wipe until open beta you might want to get in now and start accruing SP. |

Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.17 05:31:00 -
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Vehicles aren't up to the E3 glory days, they still need a competent driver/pilot who knows when he can afford to press the attack, and when he needs to retreat and repair. Missile Turrets are currently broken, so using them is basically a must if you want to perform at the peak of your tank's capabilities. If you're running ANY turret on ANY vehicle as something other than a Missile Launcher, it's probably best if it's a Large Railgun Turret on your HAV, because those are a pretty good alternative to a Forge Gun, and can be a nice way to strip an enemy tank of its shields.
The other thing is that armour tanking is horribly outclassed by shields, because they get a LOT of extra options, most of which are better than the armour tanking options.
If you're set up nicely, Forge Guns will dent your shields, but not much more unless you stay out in the open and take it, and Swarms can pretty much only hurt you after the shields are gone. Even if you're dual-tanking, though, your armour WILL just fall apart at the sight of missiles - Turret-mounted or Swarms.
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.18 17:48:00 -
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Huh, well thats all good to know. I was never one to drive tanks, so I don't really know them that well, I just know I was pretty upset when they nerfed the crap out of them, just made lone wolfing all the more viable. I'll have to get on in the next couple days and play a bit, I've just got to find a keyboard first, had to return my Lycosa.  |

Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.18 17:56:00 -
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No change. Still all sloppy and jerky. |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.18 17:59:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:No change. Still all sloppy and jerky. Framerate still floating around 20? |

Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.18 18:10:00 -
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Frame rate, latency, and general performance are still pretty rubbish yeah. Frame rate in Dropships or exploding vehicles can leave you with 5 second pauses. It's not changed. |

Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2012.11.18 18:27:00 -
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that's next build.
Come on Tony you know this, yet you still post the same thing. Change the record man. |

Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.11.18 19:04:00 -
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Actually, I haven't seen anything at all about next build yet. Just a few people saying Dec 4th. If you know what's comming then do spill the beans :P |

Xndr 78th
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:37:00 -
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I haven't played for month, looks like it became FAR MORE laggy. Did it? |

fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2012.11.18 22:38:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Actually, I haven't seen anything at all about next build yet. Just a few people saying Dec 4th. If you know what's comming then do spill the beans :P
More of the same only slower  |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:34:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Actually, I haven't seen anything at all about next build yet. Just a few people saying Dec 4th. If you know what's comming then do spill the beans :P More of the same only slower  Wait, next build is gonna be shittier than Codex..? |

Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:37:00 -
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New strategy when it comes to infantry only: whoever has the most ARs wins, because a GEK can kill someone with decent fittings at long range in under a second. If you plan on outgunning one with anything but another AR (or a sniper rifle at extreme range), you'll die and have wasted whatever expensive weapon you happen to be using.
Have fun. |

Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:39:00 -
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Schen sounds like every complaint I've ever heard towards AR's.. just sayin. |

Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.18 23:45:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Schen sounds like every complaint I've ever heard towards AR's.. just sayin. That's because it's true. Since you obviously use ARs all the time, try using any light weapon (or salvage-only sidearms) at its optimal range against anyone with a decent AR.
Have fun. |
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