Also, were you around when there was all that IRC direct interaction going on? Somebody even took the liberty of relaying everything that was said on the chat and posted it on the forums, also taking any questions made in that thread to be posted on the chat. Really, CCP has been pretty good (epesially compared to other devs with games in betas) with their communication in my opinion.

I would like to direct your attention to This and this.

IRC is not the voice of the DUST community. This is the voice of the DUST community. CCP should be here. Not playing Sylvester with that tweety bird thingy.

IRC is not the voice of the DUST community. This is the voice of the DUST community. CCP should be here. Not playing Sylvester with that tweety bird thingy.

Now that Zion is out of the tourny I'll probably stop playing DUST, there's no point anymore, especially if there's going to be a wipe next build, whenever the heck that'll happen. I might of been more inclined to continue playing if I thought CCP needed more opinions, but this build only tweaked and added little, so most of the major issues and bugs have already been brought up, I'm ready for something new, otherwise my dusty RPG's need a little elbow grease.

There is actually no wipe planned for the next build. The plan seems to be to wait until the game moves to TQ server for the next wipe.

Also... the tourney kept you here? Why? It was fun, but not that important.

The 2 links you put here just says : "fix in a next build/hotfix" or "under investigation and waiting for player feedback" ...


Well, I just agree with Ydubbs () : just getting bore with this game and devs.

Ok "it's a beta", but other games are coming, and who will still be testing in the next 2 weeks, honestly ?

And Oh!, btw, good idea to pull off servers statistics on eve-offline and gamechruker, now we can't see anymore that there are at most 300-500 players on the server (and I'm maybe too nice ...)

I'm not shouting FAIL, things can change, but CCP is loosing testers every day !!!


Edit : just take a look at forum activity ... It's really sad...

argh no offence but you guys are ungrateful.

They come into IRC,
They have interviews in cast514 and zions podcast,
they give us weekly updates on their meetings,
they read all of our threads and make a point of it,
the support answers your questions within 24 hours

and yet you still cry your little tears.
It's not that ccp doesn't communicate enough, it's you being ungrateful and not realising that building a game takes more than chatting to a bunch of ungrateful teenage characters who would rather have social status than a finished game.

get a grip for **** sake.

Yes go to the irc you ungrateful bunch, god forbid that ccp should actually give information on the very forum they set up for that task.

Next you'll be wanting information on what they plan to implement next how dare you your only beta testers you have no right to know what your testing.

Sarcasm off !!!!!!!!!!

What is this IRC that everyone is talking about?

Internet relay chat.

:) I created this thread because I wanted some sort of feedback, here and there from the devs to know whether they are making changes to our suggestions or not. Now, some people are saying that they are more involved on this IRC thing. So, i'd like to go there (whatever it is) if they are more involved there. It will solve my issue with them on this.

So, what is the link please?

Actually Fenrir, you DON'T have a right to know what you are testing next. And no sarcasm either. You see, if we violate our NDA, we get banned. If a CCP employee violates their much more stringent NDA, there can be legal consequences. So don't throw a fit if they can't release patch notes 2 weeks in advance, or in advance at all. We are supposed to be testing this game, not trying to actually play for enjoyment. As far as the forum vs. the irc channel, I get plenty of information right here on the forums. I know how to get that information. Sitting there griping about everything is not the way.

Yes go to the irc you ungrateful bunch, god forbid that ccp should actually give information on the very forum they set up for that task.

Next you'll be wanting information on what they plan to implement next how dare you your only beta testers you have no right to know what your testing.

Sarcasm off !!!!!!!!!!

OP has obviously not been around for many builds.

So far it's appeared to me that the fixes released have been the fixes / changes we asked for (and more than once we've gotten to choke on it).

As for CCP giving us info before the build releases, why should they? We just ignore it and continue to rant and rave over things they have already told us were fixed in the upcoming build (swarm launchers and militia dropships anyone?)

I see updates at least weekly from the devs, and I don't even look hard.

Test the game, provide CCP with feedback, and have fun - in that order.

So far the 2 bugs I've reported have been fixed, 3 of the things I've asked for (along with others) in the forums hacve been implimented. I kinda like that form of feedback, rather than make promises they put out increasingly better builds - which is a game develper's job. Telling you "yes we read your post, yes we're looking into it" after every one of the complaints and crybaby posts in the forum is not only NOT a developer's job, it would be a HUGE waste of time that they could (and should) be spending getting as many fixes coded into the next build before release.

Makes a change from they are to busy response, makes my head spin how people stick up so much for ccp, I've been beta testing since the days of dial up modems and 200 mhz pentiums, in that respect this is the poorest forum for dev involvement or lack of that I have ever experianced.

I to can search for all the info I need but some can't or don't know how to so the forum should be the devs first point of contact and should be awash with there input.

The strict nda went out the window the day they opened up beta to a large volume of playes who did not even apply for beta.

It doesn't matter how long you have been beta testing before testing CCP's beta in general. The fact of the matter is that this is CCP games' private business. They are the only ones with the right to say how they will conduct their business. Not some ranting consumer like you. If you think you are better at running a business, why don't apply for a management position at CCP Games? Better yet, start your own. Until you decide to do that, you will have to accept the cold harsh reality.

OP has obviously not been around for many builds.

So far it's appeared to me that the fixes released have been the fixes / changes we asked for (and more than once we've gotten to choke on it).

As for CCP giving us info before the build releases, why should they? We just ignore it and continue to rant and rave over things they have already told us were fixed in the upcoming build (swarm launchers and militia dropships anyone?)

I see updates at least weekly from the devs, and I don't even look hard.

Test the game, provide CCP with feedback, and have fun - in that order.

So far the 2 bugs I've reported have been fixed, 3 of the things I've asked for (along with others) in the forums hacve been implimented. I kinda like that form of feedback, rather than make promises they put out increasingly better builds - which is a game develper's job. Telling you "yes we read your post, yes we're looking into it" after every one of the complaints and crybaby posts in the forum is not only NOT a developer's job, it would be a HUGE waste of time that they could (and should) be spending getting as many fixes coded into the next build before release.

@fenrir

No. Not a secret employee. Just a sane person smacking an arrogant troll in the face with facts.