DUST Search - IWANT TO LOVE THIS GAME BUT...

Carl Hauser wrote:

KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:

Guinevere Bravo wrote:

Obi-wan Solo wrote:

I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to **** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat ****. So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. **** You.

Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more.

Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team.

This is actually a pretty good point. Running Logi is a good way to earn free SP and deffinately help ur crew in the process. Then u can use that SP to train the gear u feel will help u be more competetive.

Tony has a point though. Without a larger playerbase to support a dedicated matchmaking system, newer players are at a disadvantage, especially with the cap. Unfortunately as it stands now, coming into a build 4 weeks late causes RAGE.

Using Drop Uplinks helps the avoid this problem to a certain degree but this heals only the symtom not the illness. And once dropships come into play even Uplinks become somehow useless unless you know the map very good to find a proper spot for your uplink.

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Obi-wan Solo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.11.09 09:19:00 - [1] - Quote I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to **** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at spawn points, really. i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat s hit. So pissed. update: Sorry bout the anger. I was pissed off. Not my style at all. Guess it shows i was frustrated. Sorry. I know its a beta. I know i am behind the curve as far as how long others have been on here. I like that there is alot of customizations and so on. I am just saying it is frustrating as hell to not even really get to play the game sometimes. as a new player your character level is not in the same league as your competition. Im sure when they get to launch these issues will not be as bad with the amount of new players coming in should balance out the matches. Hopefully.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.09 09:27:00 - [2] - Quote I think this is going to be the general opinion on Dust. Tbh, you probably started late, and so are a victim of the Sp system. It's just not a very good system IMHO. Worked in EvE, not Fps. Dust is just frustrating.
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 140	Posted - 2012.11.09 09:27:00 - [3] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.11.09 09:45:00 - [4] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. This is actually a pretty good point. Running Logi is a good way to earn free SP and deffinately help ur crew in the process. Then u can use that SP to train the gear u feel will help u be more competetive. Tony has a point though. Without a larger playerbase to support a dedicated matchmaking system, newer players are at a disadvantage, especially with the cap. Unfortunately as it stands now, coming into a build 4 weeks late causes RAGE.
Carl Hauser Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 46	Posted - 2012.11.09 10:16:00 - [5] - Quote KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. This is actually a pretty good point. Running Logi is a good way to earn free SP and deffinately help ur crew in the process. Then u can use that SP to train the gear u feel will help u be more competetive. Tony has a point though. Without a larger playerbase to support a dedicated matchmaking system, newer players are at a disadvantage, especially with the cap. Unfortunately as it stands now, coming into a build 4 weeks late causes RAGE. Using Drop Uplinks helps the avoid this problem to a certain degree but this heals only the symtom not the illness. And once dropships come into play even Uplinks become somehow useless unless you know the map very good to find a proper spot for your uplink.
Novas Prime Algintal Core Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2012.11.09 10:20:00 - [6] - Quote Carl Hauser wrote: KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. This is actually a pretty good point. Running Logi is a good way to earn free SP and deffinately help ur crew in the process. Then u can use that SP to train the gear u feel will help u be more competetive. Tony has a point though. Without a larger playerbase to support a dedicated matchmaking system, newer players are at a disadvantage, especially with the cap. Unfortunately as it stands now, coming into a build 4 weeks late causes RAGE. Using Drop Uplinks helps the avoid this problem to a certain degree but this heals only the symtom not the illness. And once dropships come into play even Uplinks become somehow useless unless you know the map very good to find a proper spot for your uplink. The buildings on all the maps need to be more detailed i.e. they ALL need interiors, that way you can stick your drop uplink in a room and know youve got a chance of defending it from the skies.
Radioship Algintal Core Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2012.11.09 10:22:00 - [7] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. You faith no have, young Padawan.
Richard Sebire Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.11.09 10:39:00 - [8] - Quote Join a squad or join a corporation. It will help, not fighting on your own...
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.11.09 11:45:00 - [9] - Quote Richard Sebire wrote: Join a squad or join a corporation. It will help, not fighting on your own... yeah this, I want to love this game too but at the moment after not playing much of this build when i jump back in everyone has better guns and shields then me, where in previous builds when i played alot i didnt find my self out gunned or out tanked I feel in the future this will balance out a bit better by better match making for public games, at the moment the player base is too low to separate people that much. the other thing is when they increase the player count and then there will be packs of people moving around together it will matter more about the organisation and the tactics of the squad/team rather than the individual equipment
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.11.09 12:46:00 - [10] - Quote Richard Sebire wrote: Join a squad or join a corporation. It will help, not fighting on your own... Disagree. Spawning is still a joke. I know that CCP want to force the player base into using droplinks with ****** spawns like being spawned on the front side C on the 3 letter map, or having people spawn camping on the ridge over looking b - but they aren't. CCP should think of droplinks as an added feature. Not a fix to the current system. Or even the planned actual spawning system/ experience.

ATR Kuan Ti Above The Rest 64	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:02:00 - [11] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. you should join a corp a good corp will support you in battle
Vane Arcadia ZionTCD Legacy Rising 115	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:23:00 - [12] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I think this is going to be the general opinion on Dust. Tbh, you probably started late, and so are a victim of the Sp system. It's just not a very good system IMHO. Worked in EvE, not Fps. Dust is just frustrating. you know what I am fed up of my heavy suit getting popped almost instantly from any number of sources. For me its not lack of SP. I have actually created a fresh psn and started playing a new char - scout suit - shotgun and having a blast (if you will excuse the pun). That char only has 750k sp but its way more fun to play than my heavy - especially when you take into account the high cost of running a decent heavy fit.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:31:00 - [13] - Quote These "join a corp" answers are as good as GM Hercules' "Good team mates will stop an orbital killing you" speach. Seriously, having a decent corp only goes so far. The game is ridiculous for a newb to bother playing unless they start at a reset AND join a GOOD corp (there are a great number of bad ones). No-one knows what corps are good when they start. Horrible odds vs 4mil SP advanced gear character with a 500k SP. Ignoring superior player skill (if you kill a 4mil SP chat while under 500k SP, they'll have no chance when you have some skills).
CandleJack more rope 27	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:46:00 - [14] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. you payed 20$ for this ?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! then if your pissed then dont come back show CCP your not going to stand for this !
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:49:00 - [15] - Quote No. *** and moan on the forums until they are forced to wake up and smell the ** they're shovelling. Every day they shovelling.
CandleJack more rope 27	Posted - 2012.11.09 13:54:00 - [16] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: No. *** and moan on the forums until they are forced to wake up and smell the ** they're shovelling. Every day they shovelling. bla bla bla bla sheep that's what they want you to think ! if you want to hurt them and get power dont play there game dont talk to them on the forums & dont tell others a bout the game if they ask you a bout it (your friends ) tell them it sucks and dont buy it until CCP cuts the crap.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.11.09 14:07:00 - [17] - Quote Yeah, a couple of mates asked about the merc pack. They've got codes already, so I told them it's stupid idea to spend anything on this yet. -ú1.59 is all I've spent, and I won't be paying for more until the game comes good.
CandleJack more rope 27	Posted - 2012.11.09 14:14:00 - [18] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Yeah, a couple of mates asked about the merc pack. They've got codes already, so I told them it's stupid idea to spend anything on this yet. -ú1.59 is all I've spent, and I won't be paying for more until the game comes good. Now that smart thinking !
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.09 14:31:00 - [19] - Quote Do you have enemies camping your MCC spawn point? Or are you playing Ambush, where they'd have to be "camping" points spread all over the map? Bring a cheap (or BPO) Heavy suit if you're not good at dodging, or a Scout if you are, with Drop Uplinks. Set one or two somewhere that ISN'T being camped, and let your team spread from somewhere that isn't being camped. Problem solved. There are 2 points. 1. Drop Uplinks ARE a way to fix the "problem" 2. The "problem" is the fault of your team not working together in the first place.
DJINN Riot 63	Posted - 2012.11.09 15:44:00 - [20] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. There will be a build reset coming soon, you will be on alot more even ground then.

DJINN Riot 63	Posted - 2012.11.09 15:45:00 - [21] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. There will be a build reset coming soon, you will be on alot more even ground then.
Obi-wan Solo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.11.09 18:38:00 - [22] - Quote Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Sorry bout the anger. I was pissed off. Not my style at all. Guess it shows i was frustrated. Sorry.
Obi-wan Solo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.11.09 18:44:00 - [23] - Quote CandleJack more rope wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. you payed 20$ for this ?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! then if your pissed then dont come back show CCP your not going to stand for this ! Yeah. I missed out on the free beta testing and i have been waiting for this game for a while. thought it had great potential. A bud talked me into buying the merc pack so we could play. He got as frustrated as me at gameplay. I guess i will just have to keep taking my licks until i get more xp points to upgrade my skills. I do hate being at a major disadvantage though. I feel like a sheep.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.11.09 19:11:00 - [24] - Quote KripnawtiQ Prime wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. This is actually a pretty good point. Running Logi is a good way to earn free SP and deffinately help ur crew in the process. Then u can use that SP to train the gear u feel will help u be more competetive. Tony has a point though. Without a larger playerbase to support a dedicated matchmaking system, newer players are at a disadvantage, especially with the cap. Unfortunately as it stands now, coming into a build 4 weeks late causes RAGE. And just imagine what's going to happen when the game actually goes live,and players decide to start a month after release.Since it's going to be FTP and you haven't spent any money on it,what will be the incentive to keep playing when you keep getting your head handed to you. There almost needs to be a grassroots effort to get more people playing now,so that they aren't way behind the curve once everyone is playing for real.
Ziero01 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2012.11.09 19:16:00 - [25] - Quote I never understood the complaint that people who've played more of the game being better at it is somehow a bad thing. The SP system is a basic leveling system, of course people who've played more will have better gear, better equipment and better skills. Why should someone who's never played before be just as good as someone whose been playing for months? Especially in a game like this that's just as much of an RPG as it is an FPS. Hell, once this game really opens up and expands into the full Eve universe all the good players will be in low/null sec, Fac war and Corp battles anyway, so this issue won't even be as big of a problem since only newbies...or stat padding try-hards will be playing those high sec random matches. As for the spawning system, I agree this needs some sort of fixing, it's FAR too common to spawn in front of a wall of red dots...with your back towards them...then it has any right to be. Even in Skirmish where the spawns aren't fully random, you'll still frequently end up spawning on the wrong side of a firefight if you spawn near a captured objective. With Ambush, you should have some protected static spawn areas you could choose to spawn out of similar to Skirmish, and with Skirmish, when you choose to spawn at an objective, they should use that 10 second counter to give you at least a view of the battle around it, if not choice of where near it you want to pop in. But again, once the full game comes out and we have Drop Ships that actually act as mobile spawns and the ability to call in CRU chambers at will, these problems won't be as common. Until then however, it's probably best to have at least one Militia Uplink Dropsuit build so you can give yourself a secure spawn point.
Kosen Driago WarRavens 25	Posted - 2012.11.09 21:24:00 - [26] - Quote well, a good way to fix that getting killed right after spawning situation would be to start equipping drop uplinks. It's not too difficult to high tail it out of that hotzone and drop one. Anywhere. Eventually you'll find a good spot to gain a small foothold. I also know this progression system needs balancing but seriously, I think if a player puts more of their time and effort into a game like this, they should have certain advantages and rewards for doing so. Why dying alot as a new player is so unexpected by so many people, I still dont understand. Personally I think ccp should have just gone with weapon add-ons and customization instead of sp tho. I think that would have been easier to manage
R F Gyro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 315	Posted - 2012.11.09 22:16:00 - [27] - Quote Everything should be fine once they get matchmaking and PvE sorted out. Right now brand new players in free militia gear are thrown into battle on their own against seasoned veterans in proto suits working as a team. That will suck, no doubt about that. However, I don't believe that this is the new player experience CCP intend to have at launch.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 109	Posted - 2012.11.10 00:01:00 - [28] - Quote ... and this is why we can't have nice things. like video games. cuz casuals can't handle em unless it's just waves of zombies. unarmed, ai zombies. THEN it's fun. but when you play real players and reality kicks in and you realize that you either join a clan or don't and get mopped then that's just it. that's the end. if they nerf the game for you, there is no point in making the game in the first place. every other game IS this game. if they leave it as is or even worse for you guys, lean into the clans even more allowing them more freedom and giving em more support, well hell... you may as well sell your copy now. Peace B
Eppenguar Magus Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2012.11.10 00:11:00 - [29] - Quote I like that there is progression (and yes, I am getting my ass handed to me-) I like that there is a learning curve... I do NOT like when I spawn and am dead before I can do anything... -One fix I think would be to give a few seconds while you are "beaming in" where you have time to get away from spawn camps... It would make sense IMO since you are "beaming in" (I think?) and would have a moment while your molecules are "between places"- THAT or have people spawn into drop ships and the piot can strategically place you on the map. I may be missing something but yeah... Several games (especially lately) I am dead before the game even loads all the way in.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.11.10 00:50:00 - [30] - Quote Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. he doesn't even need to skill them up just use militia droplink but he too busy cryng on forums too probly know they even exist are you stupid OP? if the spawn point is camped pick another one.. you can also cry about this same "issue" on battlefield 3 or red dead redemption..

Eppenguar Magus Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2012.11.10 01:24:00 - [31] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: Guinevere Bravo wrote: Obi-wan Solo wrote: I am Fn pissed at getting killed instantly at respond. You want to ** me off. this is how you do it. And to the fn assholes that just wait at span points, really. is that fun? i am about a heartbeat away from telling what could be a great game to eat . So pissed i paid $20 to die die die die die die die. ** You. Firstly it's a beta so nothings going to be perfect. You chose to spend $20 on a game you knew wasn't finished and then moan about it? please cry more. Secondly there is a counter to everything, skill up 'Drop uplinks' and be the saving grace of your entire team. he doesn't even need to skill them up just use militia droplink but he too busy cryng on forums too probly know they even exist are you stupid OP? if the spawn point is camped pick another one.. you can also cry about this same "issue" on battlefield 3 or red dead redemption.. Hell, I had no idea you could "pick" spawn points and thought it was totally random. Once I figure out how I am good to go then and this is a non issue. -Thanks. EDIT: Yup, switching spawn points is as easy as moving the control stick around. Thanks again. Non issue.


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