People with the most WP (war points) may be well-equipped shooters, but they are not necessarily the best commanders. For one thing, they are so focused on shooting they hardly have time to look at the battlemap and are often not aware of what the enemy is doing. Battlefield commander should be chosen by vote before each battle. And if the chosen commander is not doing a good job, they can be replaced during battle by vote.

Just my suggestion.

Changing commander during a battle is almost never a good idea. In real war or in DUST.

A different commander will need a different approach, and when their preferred strategy is compromised by the previous commander's approach - whether successful or not - then things will go badly.

In many situations, throwing a few people into suicide attacks can be a good idea, but it doesn't necessarily look good to the players following those orders.

Its like MAG then

Whoever has the most points gets leadership

KDR separates the good from the bad. Therefore, if you have the highest KDR you should be the commander

With Mag you at least A) Had to actually WANT SL and B) ...to some extent, had to level up and gain some sort of experience (in both numerical and actual gameplay) before you could try to be put in charge.

Simply put, make it so that in random matches only people who want to be put in charge and have some sort of experience should get the option. The game also needs to do more to explain how the FRAGO system works in this game and why randoms should use it more.



Just because someone has a great gun game or a strong tank doesn't mean they're the best at tactical analysis or even leading a group. That's not saying a great killer couldn't also be a great leader, it's just saying there really isn't much relation between the two outside of being good at the game.

In the end however, issues with SL and in game leadership will only be problems in random PU matches. Which from what I understand of where the game is going and how Eve works will mean pretty much nothing in the long run. In matches that matter, teams will go in pre-organized and SL's will be worked out before people even que up the match.

I agree with OP it should not be based of War points, but KDR

KDR separates the good from the bad. Therefore, if you have the highest KDR you should be the commander

Nothing Rag said is true. KDR means none of that. Want to know why? Dropships and sniping small missile tanks.


Leadership should be a role you spec into at the cost of being effective in battle, according to CCP the commander may never soot foot on the battlefield to begin with.

So your saying my KDR is padded by Dropships and Sniping ???

A Good KDR Means you understand the Game, but most importanty the maps. they know when to push, when to a hold down objective.Furthermore they know how to keep there players alive. KDR separates the LIONS from the Lambs. I for one will never follow anyone with KDR below 3.0.

Skill in combat doesn't necessarily translate to skill at command.

Good FPS players who are ONLY good FPS players tend to perform HORRIBLY when you hand the controls tot hem in multilayer RTS or TBS games. Doesn't matter how good your aim is, and doesn't matter how high or low your K/D is, when you're the guy behind the front lines and you aren't in combat yourself.

K/D gives you a good baseline to judge how well a player understands the game, but it ISN'T the only indicator that should matter.

I've earned more WPs than anyone else in my team, and turned the tide of battle in my team's favour in multiple battles where my K/D was in the order of 2:10 - sometimes worse. Doesn't mean I'm not a good player, just that I don't always focus on my gun game. In Ambush, when I play, I rarely get less than 2 kills per death, but in Skirmish, when running BPO or Starter fits, death doesn't count for much, so I do it a lot more.

Skill in combat doesn't necessarily translate to skill at command.

Good FPS players who are ONLY good FPS players tend to perform HORRIBLY when you hand the controls tot hem in multilayer RTS or TBS games. Doesn't matter how good your aim is, and doesn't matter how high or low your K/D is, when you're the guy behind the front lines and you aren't in combat yourself.

K/D gives you a good baseline to judge how well a player understands the game, but it ISN'T the only indicator that should matter.

I've earned more WPs than anyone else in my team, and turned the tide of battle in my team's favour in multiple battles where my K/D was in the order of 2:10 - sometimes worse. Doesn't mean I'm not a good player, just that I don't always focus on my gun game. In Ambush, when I play, I rarely get less than 2 kills per death, but in Skirmish, when running BPO or Starter fits, death doesn't count for much, so I do it a lot more.

And let leadership be reassigned by person in position, so if somebody that doesn't know what to do or doesn't want to lead can step down.

While I understand KDR is an important aspect of good leadership, it's not the only one that matters. Especially in a game like this where strong leadership will be make or break in matches that actually matter, despite how much one understands the game, if they can't or don't effectively relay that understanding to the rest of the team then they're not doing well as leaders.

Again, KDR is important yes, but not the sole deciding factor.

People with the most WP (war points) may be well-equipped shooters, but they are not necessarily the best commanders. For one thing, they are so focused on shooting they hardly have time to look at the battlemap and are often not aware of what the enemy is doing. Battlefield commander should be chosen by vote before each battle. And if the chosen commander is not doing a good job, they can be replaced during battle by vote.

Just my suggestion.

Changing commander during a battle is almost never a good idea. In real war or in DUST.

A different commander will need a different approach, and when their preferred strategy is compromised by the previous commander's approach - whether successful or not - then things will go badly.

In many situations, throwing a few people into suicide attacks can be a good idea, but it doesn't necessarily look good to the players following those orders.

you all know there is no Battlefield commander in dust right its your squad leader that marks stuff and if you cant run and gun and mark at the same time you should not be squad leader