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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:53:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:I agree with OP it should not be based of War points, but KDR
KDR separates the good from the bad. Therefore, if you have the highest KDR you should be the commander
Not to be rude or seem trollish, but that is the stupidist idea ever... yeh I totally want a guy whos strategy is flying circles or hiding in a corner with a sniper rifle to be giving orders.. as thats what alot of the higher kdr lovin people do, though there is alot with good gun game also... it will not distinguish the difference from them and the scrubs who pad.
And as a note, some of the greatest minds I have flown into battle for in Eve never once fired a weapon or was seen on the field. yet they were there the entire time, cloaked and giving orders. A commander is a commander, some can do it and others can't.. you don't see grunts who mow down their enemy and have alot of kills on their concience giving out the orders to thier squad, alot of times the guy giving orders has never once shot at someone |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.08 18:02:00 -
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ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:Ziero01 wrote:With Mag you at least A) Had to actually WANT SL and B) ...to some extent, had to level up and gain some sort of experience (in both numerical and actual gameplay) before you could try to be put in charge. Simply put, make it so that in random matches only people who want to be put in charge and have some sort of experience should get the option. The game also needs to do more to explain how the FRAGO system works in this game and why randoms should use it more. ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote:KDR separates the good from the bad. Therefore, if you have the highest KDR you should be the commander Just because someone has a great gun game or a strong tank doesn't mean they're the best at tactical analysis or even leading a group. That's not saying a great killer couldn't also be a great leader, it's just saying there really isn't much relation between the two outside of being good at the game. In the end however, issues with SL and in game leadership will only be problems in random PU matches. Which from what I understand of where the game is going and how Eve works will mean pretty much nothing in the long run. In matches that matter, teams will go in pre-organized and SL's will be worked out before people even que up the match. A Good KDR Means you understand the Game, but most importanty the maps. they know when to push, when to a hold down objective.Furthermore they know how to keep there players alive. KDR separates the LIONS from the Lambs. I for one will never follow anyone with KDR below 3.0.
lmao, you are missing out on some great fun and great tactical minds to share thoughts with then. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.08 18:03:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Skill in combat doesn't necessarily translate to skill at command.
Good FPS players who are ONLY good FPS players tend to perform HORRIBLY when you hand the controls tot hem in multilayer RTS or TBS games. Doesn't matter how good your aim is, and doesn't matter how high or low your K/D is, when you're the guy behind the front lines and you aren't in combat yourself.
K/D gives you a good baseline to judge how well a player understands the game, but it ISN'T the only indicator that should matter.
I've earned more WPs than anyone else in my team, and turned the tide of battle in my team's favour in multiple battles where my K/D was in the order of 2:10 - sometimes worse. Doesn't mean I'm not a good player, just that I don't always focus on my gun game. In Ambush, when I play, I rarely get less than 2 kills per death, but in Skirmish, when running BPO or Starter fits, death doesn't count for much, so I do it a lot more.
nicely put |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.09 13:50:00 -
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ATR Kuan Ti wrote:you all know there is no Battlefield commander in dust right its your squad leader that marks stuff and if you cant run and gun and mark at the same time you should not be squad leader
This, and trying to run gun and mark is not easily done. It took me awhile to get it down, for a bit I would hide in a corner and bring up my map when issuing orders.. which would take to much time or sometimes get me killed. I finally got it down to where I can issue orders on the fly while running through some guys, I still need lots of improvement I think.. but it is definatly a skill to be learned and not very easy to do all at once |
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