I'm fed up. Right now, it seems like everyone summons a dropship and then completely dominates on the battlefield. If this is balanced then you're doing it wrong CCP.

Increase the swarm missiles to actually catch up with dropships. I understand that they can burn away using a booster, but when swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms of missiles can't hit the target (mind you, several volleys from multiple players) then how the hell can we shoot them down?! Oh sure, I guess we can use Forge guns, but what good can those do if they can't even hit it because the dropships are jumping all over the place? Not to mention they blow up before hitting the target so they have a range limit too?

TLDR: It is very angering to see two people go around the map and go 33/0 and 0/0 and get the most WP while the teammates are trying to scrap up the remains and the other team gets frustrated because they can't hit dropships with militia gear.

BALANCE YOUR GAME CCP. NERF THE SPEED ON DROPSHIPS.

Also, fix your spawns. After writing this I tried to join another game (Ambush mode) and spawned in front of an enemy Gunlogi. Really?

But I'm fed up. Right now, it seems like everyone summons a dropship and then completely dominates on the battlefield. If this is balanced then you're doing it wrong CCP.

Increase the swarm missiles to actually catch up with dropships. I understand that they can burn away using a booster, but when swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms and swarms of missiles can't hit the target (mind you, several volleys from multiple players) then how the hell can we shoot them down?! Oh sure, I guess we can use Forge guns, but what good can those do if they can't even hit it because the dropships are jumping all over the place? Not to mention they blow up before hitting the target so they have a range limit too?

TLDR: It is very angering to see two people go around the map and go 33/0 and 0/0 and get the most WP while the teammates are trying to scrap up the remains and the other team gets frustrated because they can't hit dropships with militia gear.

BALANCE YOUR GAME CCP. NERF THE SPEED ON DROPSHIPS.

Also, fix your spawns. After writing this I tried to join another game (Ambush mode) and spawned in front of an enemy Gunlogi. Really?

(...)I guess we can use Forge guns, but what good can those do if they can't even hit it because the dropships are jumping all over the place? Not to mention they blow up before hitting the target so they have a range limit too?(...)

I have also gotten killed A LOT by the Gunlogi. It's a shame, but I know CCP will hear us out and do some extra testing with it. Fingers crossed, it is highly annoying.

Forge gun compeer to Swarm Launchers is a weapon that required skill tand plan to use it properly, and everyone need some practice first to use it successfully.

5 Words:

TRAIN YOUR SWARM LAUNCHER SKILL

Dropships are even worse than the tanks of 2 builds ago

Im in the same boat as you, im in a tank aswell and im like meh why bother, since i see who are pilots mainly now i do back out of games if i see a dropship or 2 up or even if i see the name because if i bring out my tank now they bring out a dropship

In end i will prob skill up for a dropship, no MCRU on it so i can have more tank or maybe get a fleet of milita dropships and ram it out the sky possibly

5 Words:

TRAIN YOUR SWARM LAUNCHER SKILL

...the other team gets frustrated because they can't hit dropships with militia gear.

5 Words:

TRAIN YOUR SWARM LAUNCHER SKILL

4 Words:

IT DOES NOT HELP.

If you are hitting a drop ship with swarms the pilot sucks. The good pilots with good dropships will only ever be hit by swarms because of lag that locks them in place for a moment, they simply weren't paying attention, or they were okay with those swarms hitting them as they knew they could tank the damage. Mutliple, very skilled dropship pilots have posted about this and actually agree dropships need addressing. Most of them, in turn, have even confirmed swarms are basically worthless.

Just went 3/7 K/D in another Ambush match. I was the highest scoring player. The enemy brought out a Gunlogi and a dropship and our team could do nothing about it.

EDIT: Adding for more description:

I hit a Gunlogi in the face with the Breach Forge Gun. You know the second highest damage dealing Forge gun in the game. 3 times. All it did was take down it's shields to about, we'll say 15%.

I was in a match earlier where I called in a Sica. Militia tank. Squishy I know. But someone with a Forge gun (didn't get the type) blew me to smithereens in one shot! Through the shield... through the armor.... dead.

I know the Sica is supposed to be easy to kill but I just don't understand how they kill me in 1 shot, and it takes me 3 shots from the 2nd highest damage dealing weapon to barely do anything to a Gunlogi. If that's balanced, then I'm at a total loss.

U do know u can have 20%+ resistance on a gunlogi plus a shield surge booster. Which makes it have 50% resistance to all u attacks including breach forge.
As for the forge that killed u i dunno how much shield did u have. forges get pretty powerful.

:) Being frustrated by derpships made the decision to maximize forge gun very easy, now derpships hate me more than I hate them.

I suggest you try the forge gun instead! Come join the fatty side, it's better over there - free ice cream.

Yep, forgeguns work. When faced with a weapon that can take them out the Dropship pilots very quickly find something interesting 'elsewhere'.

Yes, because balance means that a free suit should be able to take down two week's worth SP investment and half a mil investment by another player.

People are STILL arguing the wrong point.

The issue isn't dropships being overpowered or too fast or swarms being too slow and weak.

The REAL issue is as follows:
Accurate 1-shot missiles with 20ft splash damage loaded onto dropships.

FIX:
Limit dropships to blasters ONLY. This will mean they have to fly low and slow to be used as assault vehicles which they're NOT supposed to be, meaning swarms will catch and hit them. As a DROPSHIP it means that it will be able to fly into an area, clear out infantry in that area as it lands so squad can jump out and take the ground, and then fly away, not sit around spamming missiles all over.


Dropships should be DUST's version of a Huey, not an Apache Arrowhead or even a Blackhawk. THAT is the issue.

I hit a Gunlogi in the face with the Breach Forge Gun. You know the second highest damage dealing Forge gun in the game. 3 times. All it did was take down it's shields to about, we'll say 15%.

I was in a match earlier where I called in a Sica. Militia tank. Squishy I know. But someone with a Forge gun (didn't get the type) blew me to smithereens in one shot! Through the shield... through the armor.... dead.

I know the Sica is supposed to be easy to kill but I just don't understand how they kill me in 1 shot, and it takes me 3 shots from the 2nd highest damage dealing weapon to barely do anything to a Gunlogi. If that's balanced, then I'm at a total loss.

I won't undermine your post, but a few comments still:
- If you hit Gunnlogi in the front, is sure isn't it's weakest spot. Remember vehicles do have weaker areas (apparently that includes shields as well)

- if three shots took 85% of tank's shields, each shot is about 28%. With only 15% of its shield HP (remember, Gunnlogi's are shield tankers!) I would find it likely for it to blow up on your 4th shot. Sure, getting 3 hits with a Breach forge is a achievement in itself. But solo killing a tank isn't and shouldn't be easy.

- How you've tanked your sica? Did you remeber heavy shield extenders and resistance modules? My sica gets killed on 3rd or 4th forge hit. Shield boosters, although useful, won't help against single big hits. Fitting IS a huge part of the game and success!

Just went 3/7 K/D in another Ambush match. I was the highest scoring player. The enemy brought out a Gunlogi and a dropship and our team could do nothing about it.

EDIT: Adding for more description:

I hit a Gunlogi in the face with the Breach Forge Gun. You know the second highest damage dealing Forge gun in the game. 3 times. All it did was take down it's shields to about, we'll say 15%.

I was in a match earlier where I called in a Sica. Militia tank. Squishy I know. But someone with a Forge gun (didn't get the type) blew me to smithereens in one shot! Through the shield... through the armor.... dead.

I know the Sica is supposed to be easy to kill but I just don't understand how they kill me in 1 shot, and it takes me 3 shots from the 2nd highest damage dealing weapon to barely do anything to a Gunlogi. If that's balanced, then I'm at a total loss.

Yep, forgeguns work. When faced with a weapon that can take them out the Dropship pilots very quickly find something interesting 'elsewhere'.

thats where your wrong I've for the last like 2-3 builds have been using dropships even last build before reset I acturally had 10mil SP from using ONLY dropships I've always used it now I think the missles getting 20% boost from modules is stupid as hell but I won't argue with it right now and the missle thing I can't control ccp did that not me and HATE me now cause I"m acturally the one who started the whole circle around the map thing cause I found out it works the point of the game is to choose a path and stick with it I can't help it if the path I wanted was ****** up and broken by ccp and just because I found something that works everyone yells OP lol dropships ain't op the missles should be looked at and the flipping thing should be to but the issue is swarms being stupid and if you really want to know what broke this build it was the whole hp thing they did with the dropsuits I think that broke the whole build along with the damage mods for missles

Screw you COPYCATS :P :P :P

There's no reason to fear the punctuation keys, Tailss. The last time I checked they didn't bite.

according to alot of the pilots they claim you are lying.

the AV is laughable when the vehicle pilots get to higher levels. it takes way more to stop a vehicle (to some respect). but when you have an entire enemy team with rockets and forge guns i shouldn't go 25/0.

i was shooting at these heavies that made 3 hits with a forge guns and some rockets on my drop ship and it wasn't even that high of a level. it ate the damage and still had 1/4th armor and after the heavies were shot the pilot flew away to rep up.

tanks are even worst at eating many shots while delivering deadly payload without even a chance of dying. they take precision strikes and shrug it off as if it was a militia rocket.

i understand it takes people to take out vehicles but the steep incline of vehicle health doesn't match the incline of AV. a maxed out swarm is a bee sting to a maxed out tank.