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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:32:00 -
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Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN.
DUST= GREAT CONCEPT
HORRIBLE EXECUTION
5 months of nothing |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
171
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:38:00 -
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1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no.
2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay.
3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom.
4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:41:00 -
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Well to be honest each of those games has a decade now to refine their forumala, and the game itself and back by billion dollar publishers with money, and manpower to make what they want happen. Whether through convential means or otherwise. That said I do think Dust514 needs a lot of work still to be on par, or close to Halo. Call of Duty is pointless in terms of trying to mimmick, or compete against. The games themselves are what they are pick-up and play acrade shooters. Anyone from a rookie, a noob, or a veteran can play it. Not a bad thing at all, but that said they too have their own issues. No actual servers for consoles outside of PC, hacking issues, lag, and in-game broken mechanics which are overly abused.
Dust514 is the Jurassic Park of the video game industry. Even has T-rex sized problems. |
Specter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
52
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:42:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing
You mean the "Games that've done almost everything the same every single year on November and brainwashed almost everyone into thinking they're great games but they're not"?
Yeah I assume you mean those. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:43:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing
So its safe to assume you wont be gracing us with your presence for much longer Regnum? O how this saddens me to my deepest core. Tootels |
Bishop Sunrunner
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:47:00 -
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i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... |
AltTest
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:48:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Actually interested to see what reviewers would give DUST when it releases. I'm thinking 5 as well. It would be quite funny to see some 3's.
Silly Sony. Should have just left Zipper alive to work on MAG2. |
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:56:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no.
2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay.
3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom.
4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2?
The DUST fanboy is a dying breed. Each build your numbers die off, but I do commend your efforts.
1. DUST will never get a 9.8... NEVER EVER
2. I Know many players shifting form PSN to XbL just because of HALO4. Secondly, Its free, but pay to win. This SO CALLED REVOLUTIONARY cross platform has been Text chat and ISK transfers... BIG DEAL HIGH FIVE. Oh wait didn't isk transfers break the game :O. Lastly, Iam comparing game mechanics
3. I will post here because it is related to DUST
4. YES |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
349
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:58:00 -
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Halo = 11-12 years in the making, 5 iterations, 2 companies. Dust = 1 year in the making, 0 iterations, 1 company. My ***** = 30 years in the making, 2 iterations, OVER 9000 Companions! |
Marcus Chrome
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:12:00 -
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A 9.8 is ridiculous. That implies that IGN thinks that Halo 4 is nearly perfect.
Any publication that gives any game a 10 immediately loses all crediblity. A 10 implies a perfect game, so that no other game will ever have to be made. A 9.8 is utterly ridiculous, a statement saying that Halo 4 is likely to be the best game of the decade at the very least. Do people seriously put that much value in these numbers? The only reason Halo 4 scores that high is because if it scores much lower, Microsoft won't be as nice to those review sites and stop sending them pre-release review copies for their precious exclusives. It's the reason why it's incredibly rare to see games with a big budget score below a 6 or 7.
Since Halo is the flagship Xbox franchise, no site can afford to give it a low score lest Microsoft stop sending them gifts for free advertising.
And, as others have already mentioned, Halo is not Dust. Halo is not even CoD or Battlefield, nor is it Rage or any other first person shootery game. People who are likely to play a lot of Halo won't be interested in Dust anyway and vice versa. |
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Thig Chastot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:12:00 -
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Bishop Sunrunner wrote:i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score...
This. Absolutely.
Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
171
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:14:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no.
2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay.
3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom.
4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2? The DUST fanboy is a dying breed. Each build your numbers die off, but I do commend your efforts. 1. DUST will never get a 9.8... NEVER EVER 2. I Know many players shifting form PSN to XbL just because of HALO4. Secondly, Its free, but pay to win. This SO CALLED REVOLUTIONARY cross platform has been Text chat and ISK transfers... BIG DEAL HIGH FIVE. Oh wait didn't isk transfers break the game :O. Lastly, Iam comparing game mechanics 3. I will post here because it is related to DUST 4. YES
=.=
Get off my Kittens for one thing. Plenty of Dust "Fanboys" and plenty of Dust "haters". I guess I know which one you are.
1. Lol. O Rly? You must not see how hype can affect people brains. I.E. The Dust Fanboys.
2. Lol. Really? I don't know many players who are. Seems kind of silly if you ask me but that's my personal opinion however Dust is still VERY different gunplay or not, from Halo 4. So. Yeah. And there's the fact again that it's free. Sure putting "Free" on something doesn't make it a grab but when the game is constantly getting patches and updates and has an expanding Universe connected to an already established Universe which has a player-base that thrives on in social aspects and actually have a say in the game...Slapping free will actually help.
And calling it Pay2Win is kinda "silly" don't you think? You can use ISK, you know the IN-GAME CURRENCY, to buy superior equips. You can easily make more of it right now than you can with Aurum that you pay real-life currency for. And the equips still don't matter because you can just buy the equips that match the strength.
3. Technically you're right. Won't bother here.
4. See 2 and cut out the bits about Xbox and Halo 4 and replace them with BO2.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:15:00 -
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IGN is as bad as Metacritic... |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:22:00 -
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-crysis 3-
enough said there, it makes halo look like childs play (which it sorta is) |
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:24:00 -
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Thig Chastot wrote:Bishop Sunrunner wrote:i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... This. Absolutely. Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay.
LOL |
Thig Chastot
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:28:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Thig Chastot wrote:Bishop Sunrunner wrote:i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... This. Absolutely. Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay. LOL
Just to clarify... I was referring to you ReGnUM. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:29:00 -
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Wtf...are we forgetting that this is a closed beta? If it were, at least the open beta then I would start to worry. Why compare it to ahlo and cod. Dust is a game on its own merits....most of the things we complain about are details that we are used to in other games like COD, MAG, BF3, Halo, etc. That means we are trying to replicate those games......
The gameplay in dust is not the worst I've played. If movements were faster, lag/freezing reduced, and had more players (because of large maps), this game would be a good game. I believe they will fix lag (this is still the beta) and they said they're going to implement more players. So, basically the movements are up for question.
And sure, they have made some things more OP but I am confident that they'll get the right balance out. But whiners will be whiners. Some guys get arroused by posting negative threads like this, it seems. They did the same in MAG, it is embedded in their core and they will never change. The better way about improving a game is constructive and respectful criticism and opinions. But saying a game blows and will never be average is exteme and lolable when those same guys return to the forum anyway. If dust sucks that bad then go to the BO2 and halo forums and suck kitten there.
(An irritated ydubbs rant) |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:38:00 -
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In all honesty Halo as a game has IMO gone downhill since Halo Combat Evolved. 2 wasnt bad but disliked the change with snipers being hitscan.....then after that the games just did not meet the standard of the first Halo.
This game definitely has the ability to be better than even the first Halo but the devs do have more work to do to get it to that point. |
Szchu
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:43:00 -
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I played my first Halo game a couple of months ago - Anniversary. I really don't get what all the fuss was about. It was just another riff off Aliens, and not a very good one. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:54:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:-crysis 3-
enough said there, it makes halo look like childs play (which it sorta is)
I'll leave a tear on that game just like I did on Crysis 2. |
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Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:54:00 -
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AltTest wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Actually interested to see what reviewers would give DUST when it releases. I'm thinking 5 as well. It would be quite funny to see some 3's. Silly Sony. Should have just left Zipper alive to work on MAG2.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ZIPPER? ARE YOU KIDDING? BIGGEST FAIL COMPANY SONY EVER FUNDED!
Thier director consistantly insulted the playerbase and refused suggestions from the dev team that were supported by players, hence why so many began to ditch Zipper.
And no this isnt gossip, I have direct connection through somone i know to the old dev team, biggest joke in the world. Thank god it died so now other developers can use the human resources in a better way.
Edit - May of just fell for a troll, but i know how delusional the MAG community can be |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:00:00 -
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing
That's a great acheivement for Bungie.
For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE.
This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it.
So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste.
I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison. |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:02:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing That's a great acheivement for Bungie. For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE. This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it. So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste. I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison.
Its done under a different dev, bungie doesnt own the rights anymore.
343 studios did Halo 4, and apparently best job of it yet.
And everyone, this threads argument died at the moment he tried comparing an xbox game to a PS3... but CCP should heed the feeling everyone is getting, a lot more frustration then enjoyment currently. They need to communicate more with the community to show what they are progressing on. DEVBLOGS
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Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:14:00 -
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if i want to walk slower than dust ill pick up HALO, if the new cod engine is not nearly as bad as the previous engine in the previous cod's since cod4 then ill play BO2 MP. halo was old and gehy after 2 and COD wont be fun till they legitimatly fix broken engine (yet to be seen).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:22:00 -
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In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1590
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:31:00 -
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Let me make this very clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ&list=FLWAVCGsyDP1eXxAenraZ-KA&index=4&feature=plpp_video
What have we learned here gentlemen?
Never trust IGN
IGN is bought off by CCP's competitors.
**** IGN |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1590
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:44:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews.
Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys.
Your point is MOOT!!!!! |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!!
Well, to be fair.....the public isn't going to care why a game is substandard (not saying that dust is). Its a game released to the same gamers that play halo. So, whether halo has 10x the budget of dust....ccp better squeeze the best quality in there.
Because production budgets aren't going to be a factor. Noone is going to say, "well, ok...I'll play it since their budget was lower than halo's" |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
808
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:36:00 -
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i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time.
i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says.
i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1020
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:53:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time.
i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says.
i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time.
regnum also has poor choice in music and is a scrub.
Also ccp bought off ign with weekend keys back in the summer. Trust me try and post in vip forums something negative about dust and it goes away.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:03:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing That's a great acheivement for Bungie. For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE. This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it. So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste. I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison.
None of that persistent stuff exists yet. All we have right now is a lobby shooter.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:05:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time.
i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says.
i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time. regnum also has poor choice in music and is a scrub.
Isn't regnum in the imperfects?? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:09:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Free Beers wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time.
i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says.
i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time. regnum also has poor choice in music and is a scrub. Isn't regnum in the imperfects??
Imperfects is all scrubs. |
Novas Prime
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:11:00 -
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Watch that video it's hilarious. And also very true. I'm with CCP on this one, they've attempted to actually take constructive criticism on a game they are tryin to make great. I think this is the first time there's ever been a closed beta for any game on the PS3. So naturally it's gonna be buggy. Usually developers use "professional testers" whose job is to literally sit there and play it 9 to 5. We don't get to see what a game was before they've squashed all the bugs.
I'm enjoying this game! Yes there's a couple of problems but never mind. I'm also guessing that the reason the graphics aren't up to scratch quite yet is because we are still testing how the game responds to having It connect to the server and swap information between PS3 gamers and PC gamers. It's kind of an unknown quantity what with it NEVER HAVING BEEN TRIED!!!
Dev blogs would be an awesome idea!!!!!
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:20:00 -
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Its ok, CCP doesnt have anything to Control-C/Control-V from yet.
Why gamers still give $60 to MS and Activision for glorified expansions is beyond me. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!!
You really think Dust is going to get great reviews compared to other big high profile shooters? Be realistic. I like Dust way more than these other games? Do you think the reviewers who are use to simple easy games like Halo and CoD are going to like something as complex and deep as Dust? They're going to take points off for the graphics, and for how hard things are to understand at first (this game is very confusing). Yes the game is in open beta, but do you honestly think that this game is suddenly going to get Halo 4 level graphics, and get super dumbed down user friendly?
I think you're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying that Dust 514 has to get great reviews, in fact I don't care much about the reviews since the game will be free and have lots of players (like I already said). I know CCP is a company from a small company which doesn't have nearly as much money as "the big boys", and they're competing against old experienced shooter IPs, but that's precisely why Dust won't be able to beat them in the reviews, but like I said THATS OK, because Dust doesn't have to beat them in reviews (free game). My point: Dust 514 can't compete with the big moneybag IPs when it comes to reviews, but that's OK because the game is free. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:35:00 -
[37] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvanJYOGlus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59P6mN1JSsE
Eat it up. |
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:36:00 -
[38] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!! You really think Dust is going to get great reviews compared to other big high profile shooters? Be realistic. I like Dust way more than these other games? Do you think the reviewers who are use to simple easy games like Halo and CoD are going to like something as complex and deep as Dust? They're going to take points off for the graphics, and for how hard things are to understand at first (this game is very confusing). Yes the game is in open beta, but do you honestly think that this game is suddenly going to get Halo 4 level graphics, and get super dumbed down user friendly? I think you're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying that Dust 514 has to get great reviews, in fact I don't care much about the reviews since the game will be free and have lots of players (like I already said). I know CCP is a company from a small company which doesn't have nearly as much money as "the big boys", and they're competing against old experienced shooter IPs, but that's precisely why Dust won't be able to beat them in the reviews, but like I said THATS OK, because Dust doesn't have to beat them in reviews (free game). My point: Dust 514 can't compete with the big moneybag IPs when it comes to reviews, but that's OK because the game is free.
I Love how you say HALO and COD are easy, yet you have been playing this game for months. This game is so easy, and I don't even use vehicles.
Halo is the most player skilled game out there, but nice try ;) |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:43:00 -
[39] - Quote
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!! You really think Dust is going to get great reviews compared to other big high profile shooters? Be realistic. I like Dust way more than these other games? Do you think the reviewers who are use to simple easy games like Halo and CoD are going to like something as complex and deep as Dust? They're going to take points off for the graphics, and for how hard things are to understand at first (this game is very confusing). Yes the game is in open beta, but do you honestly think that this game is suddenly going to get Halo 4 level graphics, and get super dumbed down user friendly? I think you're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying that Dust 514 has to get great reviews, in fact I don't care much about the reviews since the game will be free and have lots of players (like I already said). I know CCP is a company from a small company which doesn't have nearly as much money as "the big boys", and they're competing against old experienced shooter IPs, but that's precisely why Dust won't be able to beat them in the reviews, but like I said THATS OK, because Dust doesn't have to beat them in reviews (free game). My point: Dust 514 can't compete with the big moneybag IPs when it comes to reviews, but that's OK because the game is free. I Love how you say HALO and COD are easy, yet you have been playing this game for months. This game is so easy, and I don't even use vehicles. Halo is the most player skilled game out there, but nice try ;)
Take it you've never played Unreal. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:48:00 -
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IGN + 9.8 review .......
I wonder how much M$ stumped up for that one?
Anybody who takes IGN's reviews with more than a pinch of salt is an idiot. You'll be telling me metacritic and IMDB aren't biased next lol. |
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
648
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:49:00 -
[41] - Quote
Just by making this game a real beta, CCP has my thumbs up. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:12:00 -
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Halo 4 is just a rehash of halo 1, 2 , 3, whatever the fk they called that other one and now they have Halo 4.... if you make that many replications of the same game with improvements on each after 10+ years you better score a 9.8 or quit your fkn job. That being said, Dust will not score high, but also not low. I project a 7- 7.5, which imo is an acceptable and well earned score for ccp. They have picked up some of the best awards for pc. Eve was fkn terrible on day 1, now look at it. Sure it has a few problems still, but some of those just really can't be fixed unless they redid everything ( something about complexity and problems with the orginal coding and guy who wrote it not being around ) It takes like 30 years to max skill on eve, it has been around for 10 years now.. what do you think dust will score in 10 years :) Halo, cod and the likes will be old news |
Villore Isu
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:16:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favourite poison. Best analogy ever. Of all time. (But then again, I like scotch rather a lot...)
Here's hoping CCP can pull of the same trick they did with EVE, making a game which gets more and more subscribers every year for nearly a decade now.
Even if Dust isn't the most successful game of all time, it definitely has the potential to maintain a largish group of dedicated players pretty much indefinitely. And if CCP keep doing expansions all that time... 11/10 is a real possibility |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
201
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:22:00 -
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I'll play Halo 4 and Black Ops 2, etc. However, I will be bored of these games fairly quickly and then end up waiting for Black Ops 3, CoD 26.8, Halo 9, etc. DUST, on the other hand, will remain my go-to game because it has a reason to play beyond running in circles killing peeps. It's a beta now, the gunplay is less refined, but in the end I could care less as long as the people I am shooting are dieing to protect a planet in the politically charged EVE universe. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:24:00 -
[45] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Halo 4 is just a rehash of halo 1, 2 , 3, whatever the fk they called that other one and now they have Halo 4.... if you make that many replications of the same game with improvements on each after 10+ years you better score a 9.8 or quit your fkn job. That being said, Dust will not score high, but also not low. I project a 7- 7.5, which imo is an acceptable and well earned score for ccp. They have picked up some of the best awards for pc. Eve was fkn terrible on day 1, now look at it. Sure it has a few problems still, but some of those just really can't be fixed unless they redid everything ( something about complexity and problems with the orginal coding and guy who wrote it not being around ) It takes like 30 years to max skill on eve, it has been around for 10 years now.. what do you think dust will score in 10 years :) Halo, cod and the likes will be old news if you take IGN or any "gaming journalism" seriously you might have something wrong with your perception of reality.
they are incredably biased toward the developer. they support day one DLC, they support the banishment of used games, they support selling out, they get their money from ad revenue from these developers. if they gave it a bad score the developer will stop giving them ad money.
just look at the IGN video of them telling that the gamers are entitled when EA failed to meet what they promised.
anyone that supports IGN or any of these backwater companies are not real. developers just see them as another way to push their product. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:24:00 -
[46] - Quote
Illuminaughty-696 wrote:I'll play Halo 4 and Black Ops 2, etc. However, I will be bored of these games fairly quickly and then end up waiting for Black Ops 3, CoD 26.8, Halo 9, etc. DUST, on the other hand, will remain my go-to game because it has a reason to play beyond running in circles killing peeps. It's a beta now, the gunplay is less refined, but in the end I could care less as long as the people I am shooting are dieing to protect a planet in the politically charged EVE universe.
This ^^^.. and LOL COD 26.8 |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:29:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Halo 4 is just a rehash of halo 1, 2 , 3, whatever the fk they called that other one and now they have Halo 4.... if you make that many replications of the same game with improvements on each after 10+ years you better score a 9.8 or quit your fkn job. That being said, Dust will not score high, but also not low. I project a 7- 7.5, which imo is an acceptable and well earned score for ccp. They have picked up some of the best awards for pc. Eve was fkn terrible on day 1, now look at it. Sure it has a few problems still, but some of those just really can't be fixed unless they redid everything ( something about complexity and problems with the orginal coding and guy who wrote it not being around ) It takes like 30 years to max skill on eve, it has been around for 10 years now.. what do you think dust will score in 10 years :) Halo, cod and the likes will be old news if you take IGN or any "gaming journalism" seriously you might have something wrong with your perception of reality. they are incredably biased toward the developer. they support day one DLC, they support the banishment of used games, they support selling out, they get their money from ad revenue from these developers. if they gave it a bad score the developer will stop giving them ad money. just look at the IGN video of them telling that the gamers are entitled when EA failed to meet what they promised. anyone that supports IGN or any of these backwater companies are not real. developers just see them as another way to push their product.
I don't really pay attention to ANY reviews, I play a demo or a friends version and if I like it I buy it. But I still stand by what I said that ccp will probably get a 7-7.5 and in a few years surpass anything halo or cod has achieved in thier 10 years |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:32:00 -
[48] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote: I don't really pay attention to ANY reviews, I play a demo or a friends version and if I like it I buy it. But I still stand by what I said that ccp will probably get a 7-7.5 and in a few years surpass anything halo or cod has achieved in thier 10 years
true, i don't see very high scores from anywhere. unless they give big bucks to IGN for ads. which i don't think they will bother. it's free, people can try it out for themselves. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:43:00 -
[49] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing That's a great acheivement for Bungie. For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE. This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it. So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste. I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison. None of that persistent stuff exists yet. All we have right now is a lobby shooter.
I call 9 years and a history that would fill multiple volumes persistence. DUST is already a part of that. The remaining question is whether it will ultimately be a footnote, a chapter or one of two great books that tell the story of New Eden. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1590
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Posted - 2012.11.02 20:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.
About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!! You really think Dust is going to get great reviews compared to other big high profile shooters? Be realistic. I like Dust way more than these other games? Do you think the reviewers who are use to simple easy games like Halo and CoD are going to like something as complex and deep as Dust? They're going to take points off for the graphics, and for how hard things are to understand at first (this game is very confusing). Yes the game is in open beta, but do you honestly think that this game is suddenly going to get Halo 4 level graphics, and get super dumbed down user friendly? I think you're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying that Dust 514 has to get great reviews, in fact I don't care much about the reviews since the game will be free and have lots of players (like I already said). I know CCP is a company from a small company which doesn't have nearly as much money as "the big boys", and they're competing against old experienced shooter IPs, but that's precisely why Dust won't be able to beat them in the reviews, but like I said THATS OK, because Dust doesn't have to beat them in reviews (free game). My point: Dust 514 can't compete with the big moneybag IPs when it comes to reviews, but that's OK because the game is free.
Sigh
It's you who missed my point. Now, if you don't mind, I have more important things to do than waste more of my time arguing with the likes of you.
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Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.11.02 20:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
i don't own a Xbox nor will i ever so i couldn't give 2 ***** about halo 4 |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.11.02 21:17:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:i don't own a Xbox nor will i ever so i couldn't give 2 ***** about halo 4
^ This
Also, Regnum posts |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.11.02 21:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
for what it's worth... halo4 also did very well at 1up, metacritic, gamespot, eurogamer, joystiq, gamesradar, and pennyarcade.
i mean... are they ALL in microsofts pocket? |
Richard Blackburn
Blackburn Odyssey
55
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:21:00 -
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Specter RND wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing You mean the "Games that've done almost everything the same every single year on November and brainwashed almost everyone into thinking they're great games but they're not"? Yeah I assume you mean those. aint nothing wrong with halo |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:36:00 -
[55] - Quote
What IGN is to 360 games, is what MSNBC is to Obama. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:37:00 -
[56] - Quote
DJINN leukoplast wrote:What IGN is to 360 games, is what MSNBC is to Obama. this is the correct answer |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:27:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lords of gaming... Sheesh.. This thread degenerated rather quickly and violently too I may add. |
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:42:00 -
[58] - Quote
Player base skill
Halo>BO2>Every other game >Dorra the exploer, DUST |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.11.03 00:03:00 -
[59] - Quote
really ccp didn't have to let us beta test the game yet |
JaZZa01
FIND CARL CORP
81
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Posted - 2012.11.03 00:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Fanboys. As far as the eye can see!... |
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.11.03 02:50:00 -
[61] - Quote
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing
Stopped reading at IGN:
You need IGN to say IGNorant.
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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI
80
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:33:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Stopped reading at IGN: You need IGN to say IGNorant.
LOL Im pretty sure CCP invited IGN to the BETA. Your FANBOY skillzzzzzz arezz WEAK |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.03 06:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote:Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Stopped reading at IGN: You need IGN to say IGNorant. LOL Im pretty sure CCP invited IGN to the BETA. Your FANBOY skillzzzzzz arezz WEAK How many accounts are you up to now? I think you're breaking the record you yourself keep setting. |
Hobos-N-Guns
Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.11.03 06:35:00 -
[64] - Quote
The best way to deal with a pest (ragnum) is to ignore him........ |
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