DUST Search - HALO 4 Got a 9.8 by IGN

Maken Tosch wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN.
Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective.
From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted.
I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360.

About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews.

Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys.

Your point is MOOT!!!!!

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ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI 80	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:32:00 - [1] - Quote Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 171	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:38:00 - [2] - Quote 1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no. 2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay. 3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom. 4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2?
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:41:00 - [3] - Quote Well to be honest each of those games has a decade now to refine their forumala, and the game itself and back by billion dollar publishers with money, and manpower to make what they want happen. Whether through convential means or otherwise. That said I do think Dust514 needs a lot of work still to be on par, or close to Halo. Call of Duty is pointless in terms of trying to mimmick, or compete against. The games themselves are what they are pick-up and play acrade shooters. Anyone from a rookie, a noob, or a veteran can play it. Not a bad thing at all, but that said they too have their own issues. No actual servers for consoles outside of PC, hacking issues, lag, and in-game broken mechanics which are overly abused. Dust514 is the Jurassic Park of the video game industry. Even has T-rex sized problems.
Specter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 52	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:42:00 - [4] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing You mean the "Games that've done almost everything the same every single year on November and brainwashed almost everyone into thinking they're great games but they're not"? Yeah I assume you mean those.
Jariel Manton SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 210	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:43:00 - [5] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing So its safe to assume you wont be gracing us with your presence for much longer Regnum? O how this saddens me to my deepest core. Tootels
Bishop Sunrunner Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:47:00 - [6] - Quote i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score...
AltTest Doomheim 21	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:48:00 - [7] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Actually interested to see what reviewers would give DUST when it releases. I'm thinking 5 as well. It would be quite funny to see some 3's. Silly Sony. Should have just left Zipper alive to work on MAG2.
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI 80	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:56:00 - [8] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: 1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no. 2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay. 3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom. 4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2? The DUST fanboy is a dying breed. Each build your numbers die off, but I do commend your efforts. 1. DUST will never get a 9.8... NEVER EVER 2. I Know many players shifting form PSN to XbL just because of HALO4. Secondly, Its free, but pay to win. This SO CALLED REVOLUTIONARY cross platform has been Text chat and ISK transfers... BIG DEAL HIGH FIVE. Oh wait didn't isk transfers break the game :O. Lastly, Iam comparing game mechanics 3. I will post here because it is related to DUST 4. YES
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:58:00 - [9] - Quote Halo = 11-12 years in the making, 5 iterations, 2 companies. Dust = 1 year in the making, 0 iterations, 1 company. My ***** = 30 years in the making, 2 iterations, OVER 9000 Companions!
Marcus Chrome Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:12:00 - [10] - Quote A 9.8 is ridiculous. That implies that IGN thinks that Halo 4 is nearly perfect. Any publication that gives any game a 10 immediately loses all crediblity. A 10 implies a perfect game, so that no other game will ever have to be made. A 9.8 is utterly ridiculous, a statement saying that Halo 4 is likely to be the best game of the decade at the very least. Do people seriously put that much value in these numbers? The only reason Halo 4 scores that high is because if it scores much lower, Microsoft won't be as nice to those review sites and stop sending them pre-release review copies for their precious exclusives. It's the reason why it's incredibly rare to see games with a big budget score below a 6 or 7. Since Halo is the flagship Xbox franchise, no site can afford to give it a low score lest Microsoft stop sending them gifts for free advertising. And, as others have already mentioned, Halo is not Dust. Halo is not even CoD or Battlefield, nor is it Rage or any other first person shootery game. People who are likely to play a lot of Halo won't be interested in Dust anyway and vice versa.

Thig Chastot Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:12:00 - [11] - Quote Bishop Sunrunner wrote: i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... This. Absolutely. Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 171	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:14:00 - [12] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: 1. IGN's review are opinionated and in the end bias. I wouldn't doubt by the hype, that Dust would get a good score now so yeah-no. 2. Halo is on the Xbox. Dust is on the PS3. This is also a Free MMO-Cross Platforms-FPS, among other things, and can't be compared to other games so easily UNLESS you're only comparing the gunplay. 3. Wrong section :I. Take this to the Lockeroom. 4. Wtf is BO2? Black Ops 2? The DUST fanboy is a dying breed. Each build your numbers die off, but I do commend your efforts. 1. DUST will never get a 9.8... NEVER EVER 2. I Know many players shifting form PSN to XbL just because of HALO4. Secondly, Its free, but pay to win. This SO CALLED REVOLUTIONARY cross platform has been Text chat and ISK transfers... BIG DEAL HIGH FIVE. Oh wait didn't isk transfers break the game :O. Lastly, Iam comparing game mechanics 3. I will post here because it is related to DUST 4. YES =.= Get off my Kittens for one thing. Plenty of Dust "Fanboys" and plenty of Dust "haters". I guess I know which one you are. 1. Lol. O Rly? You must not see how hype can affect people brains. I.E. The Dust Fanboys. 2. Lol. Really? I don't know many players who are. Seems kind of silly if you ask me but that's my personal opinion however Dust is still VERY different gunplay or not, from Halo 4. So. Yeah. And there's the fact again that it's free. Sure putting "Free" on something doesn't make it a grab but when the game is constantly getting patches and updates and has an expanding Universe connected to an already established Universe which has a player-base that thrives on in social aspects and actually have a say in the game...Slapping free will actually help. And calling it Pay2Win is kinda "silly" don't you think? You can use ISK, you know the IN-GAME CURRENCY, to buy superior equips. You can easily make more of it right now than you can with Aurum that you pay real-life currency for. And the equips still don't matter because you can just buy the equips that match the strength. 3. Technically you're right. Won't bother here. 4. See 2 and cut out the bits about Xbox and Halo 4 and replace them with BO2.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:15:00 - [13] - Quote IGN is as bad as Metacritic...
Sev Alcatraz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 185	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:22:00 - [14] - Quote -crysis 3- enough said there, it makes halo look like childs play (which it sorta is)
ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI 80	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:24:00 - [15] - Quote Thig Chastot wrote: Bishop Sunrunner wrote: i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... This. Absolutely. Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay. LOL
Thig Chastot Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:28:00 - [16] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Thig Chastot wrote: Bishop Sunrunner wrote: i can assure you: Microsoft hast paid for this score... This. Absolutely. Also.... If Bungie had decided to do a closed beta for the original Halo, you would have complained just as much about it's "broken" mechanics (and Broken multiplayer, am I right?)... Besides, Halo 1 was probably before your time. I bet you were in diapers when games were about the content and gameplay. LOL Just to clarify... I was referring to you ReGnUM.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:29:00 - [17] - Quote Wtf...are we forgetting that this is a closed beta? If it were, at least the open beta then I would start to worry. Why compare it to ahlo and cod. Dust is a game on its own merits....most of the things we complain about are details that we are used to in other games like COD, MAG, BF3, Halo, etc. That means we are trying to replicate those games...... The gameplay in dust is not the worst I've played. If movements were faster, lag/freezing reduced, and had more players (because of large maps), this game would be a good game. I believe they will fix lag (this is still the beta) and they said they're going to implement more players. So, basically the movements are up for question. And sure, they have made some things more OP but I am confident that they'll get the right balance out. But whiners will be whiners. Some guys get arroused by posting negative threads like this, it seems. They did the same in MAG, it is embedded in their core and they will never change. The better way about improving a game is constructive and respectful criticism and opinions. But saying a game blows and will never be average is exteme and lolable when those same guys return to the forum anyway. If dust sucks that bad then go to the BO2 and halo forums and suck kitten there. (An irritated ydubbs rant)
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:38:00 - [18] - Quote In all honesty Halo as a game has IMO gone downhill since Halo Combat Evolved. 2 wasnt bad but disliked the change with snipers being hitscan.....then after that the games just did not meet the standard of the first Halo. This game definitely has the ability to be better than even the first Halo but the devs do have more work to do to get it to that point.
Szchu Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:43:00 - [19] - Quote I played my first Halo game a couple of months ago - Anniversary. I really don't get what all the fuss was about. It was just another riff off Aliens, and not a very good one.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:54:00 - [20] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: -crysis 3- enough said there, it makes halo look like childs play (which it sorta is) I'll leave a tear on that game just like I did on Crysis 2.

Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.11.02 15:54:00 - [21] - Quote AltTest wrote: ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing Actually interested to see what reviewers would give DUST when it releases. I'm thinking 5 as well. It would be quite funny to see some 3's. Silly Sony. Should have just left Zipper alive to work on MAG2. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ZIPPER? ARE YOU KIDDING? BIGGEST FAIL COMPANY SONY EVER FUNDED! Thier director consistantly insulted the playerbase and refused suggestions from the dev team that were supported by players, hence why so many began to ditch Zipper. And no this isnt gossip, I have direct connection through somone i know to the old dev team, biggest joke in the world. Thank god it died so now other developers can use the human resources in a better way. Edit - May of just fell for a troll, but i know how delusional the MAG community can be
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing That's a great acheivement for Bungie. For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE. This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it. So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste. I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison.
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:02:00 - [23] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: ReGnUM GODofGODS DEI wrote: Welcome to the big leagues CCP HALO4 and BO2 are the games you're competing against, and sadly DUST is far behind . I don't even think that if CCP worked on this game for a another year they could score 5 by IGN. DUST= GREAT CONCEPT HORRIBLE EXECUTION 5 months of nothing That's a great acheivement for Bungie. For me, Halo or any of the other online shooters are not competition for DUST/EVE. This is because they are games, entertainment products, but not a genuine war, which is what we have in New Eden. In fact, to call the war in New Eden 'persistent' is to trivialize it. So far as I can tell, the opportunity to wage a real war against world-class opponents exists and will only exist in New Eden. But it is certainly not for everybody, there are logistical and orginisational aspects to being involved in a real war that some gamers will find a giant PITA, tbh. To me it's an acquired taste. I think of DUST as scotch, and most of the other games as beer. Both good, all depends on what you're looking for in your favorite poison. Its done under a different dev, bungie doesnt own the rights anymore. 343 studios did Halo 4, and apparently best job of it yet. And everyone, this threads argument died at the moment he tried comparing an xbox game to a PS3... but CCP should heed the feeling everyone is getting, a lot more frustration then enjoyment currently. They need to communicate more with the community to show what they are progressing on. DEVBLOGS
Salazar Skye-fire Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:14:00 - [24] - Quote if i want to walk slower than dust ill pick up HALO, if the new cod engine is not nearly as bad as the previous engine in the previous cod's since cod4 then ill play BO2 MP. halo was old and gehy after 2 and COD wont be fun till they legitimatly fix broken engine (yet to be seen).
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:22:00 - [25] - Quote In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360. About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1590	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:31:00 - [26] - Quote Let me make this very clear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ&list=FLWAVCGsyDP1eXxAenraZ-KA&index=4&feature=plpp_video What have we learned here gentlemen? Never trust IGN IGN is bought off by CCP's competitors. **** IGN
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1590	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:44:00 - [27] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360. About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!!
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.11.02 17:00:00 - [28] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: In Halo's defense, many many others sites gave it a very high score, so its not just IGN. Reviewers are people, and reviews are just opinions; they are allowed to think a game is nearly perfect or completely perfect. People say perfection is impossible, but it isn't, its just subjective. From what I hear, Halo 4 has a very good campaign with a good story, great gameplay that people really enjoy, multiplayer with lots of content that people really enjoy with lots of content, and an episodic co-op story with many seasons of weekly episodic missions. Microsoft spent so much on this game, the production value is tremendous. The very high score doesn't seem unwarranted. I'm not a Halo player, and I don't have or want a Xbox360. About Dust, I don't think it has a chance against the high profile shooters like Halo 4 and BO2 when it comes to reviews, but its free, lots of depth, decent gameplay (I enjoy it more than most shooters); people will download it and play it, and it could get more players then both BO2 and Halo 4 combined. I think Dust will at least do ok in the reviews. Again, you are comparing Halo which is a completed game that has been iterated multiple times since it's initial release back in 2004 and has been backed by a multi billion-dollar company like Microsoft (who is just as powerful as Apple) that has been around since the age of the FIRST WINDOWS OS in computer history to Dust 514 which has not even finished closed beta yet being created by CCP which is a small Icelandic company in a country whose total population is less than that of its subscriber base for Eve Online and doesn't have much money compared to the big boys. Your point is MOOT!!!!! Well, to be fair.....the public isn't going to care why a game is substandard (not saying that dust is). Its a game released to the same gamers that play halo. So, whether halo has 10x the budget of dust....ccp better squeeze the best quality in there. Because production budgets aren't going to be a factor. Noone is going to say, "well, ok...I'll play it since their budget was lower than halo's"
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.11.02 17:36:00 - [29] - Quote i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time. i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says. i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1020	Posted - 2012.11.02 17:53:00 - [30] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: i came into this thread thinking regnum was a waste of my time. i read that he actually puts stock in what IGN says. i left this thread thinking regnum is a 12 year old waste of my time. regnum also has poor choice in music and is a scrub. Also ccp bought off ign with weekend keys back in the summer. Trust me try and post in vip forums something negative about dust and it goes away.



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