Now if I remember correctly, CCP said that there will be maps that get up to 50 sq. km. That's one huge ass map, and I want something to be small and fast to cross a map that big. The first thing that comes to mind is Hover Bikes, one because it fits, and two because they are so awesome! If we do get these, then they sould come in 3 forms:


Light: as the name implies, it would be the lighest, and least armored, but has the fastest speed. at proto level, it should outrun a dropship. It would come with one Super light vehicle weapon (look it up, as I discuessed it before.), and three vehicle equipment slots (same as the super light). this one would also be almost dead quiet quiet, and can only hold one person.


Standard: this would be the regular Hover Bike. It would have medium armor, and shields, and at advanced level, ourtrun a LAV, and at proto level, barely keep up with a Dropship. It would get 2 weapon and 2 equipment slots. The standard Hover Bike would be as loud as the LAV, and can hold two people.


Heavy: This one is the one you would want to use to charge into battle. It is the slowest, barely keeping up with a LAV up to advanced. and outrunning them at proto; but they have the most armor. A Heavy Hover Bike Would have 3 weapon and 1 equipment slots. It would be 3/4's loud as a dropship, and two people. The heavy bike gets one unique feature- it could be able to "drag" a support drop by a cable

The people sitting on the back of the Standard and Heavy bikes should be able to shoot their guns while on the bike.

why are you so insistent on light standard and heavy version of everything?

That's like asking why do people like different guns. verity, upsides & downsides, and balance.

I wish all the ground vehicles were hover vehicles. Feels really outdated that all the ground vehicles are basically just regular tanks and humvees.

Now if I remember correctly, CCP said that there will be maps that get up to 50 sq. km. That's one huge ass map, and I want something to be small and fast to cross a map that big.

This is what LAVs and drop ships will be for.

You don't know how to read a sentsnce fully, now do you? Now, I will repeat the sentence, but highlight: Now if I remember correctly, CCP said that there will be maps that get up to 50 sq. km. That's one huge ass map, and I want something to be small and fast to cross a map that big

You need to work on your comprehension now don't you? (If this made me sound like an idiot, just think how it made you sound when you did similar.)

No. I read it fully and understood. Just stating that there's already something meant for what you're saying you want the hover bikes for... Transport. Doesn't matter to me what armed and size variants you want. Your first point was transport. All else was irrelevant as far as I was concerned.

Actually, you didn't understand at all, or you didn't read it. Like I said, I wanted something fast and small. Dropships are too big and LAV's are sore thumbs that are easy targets. The Hover Bikes are neither.

Like a dog with a bone aren't you?

It doesn't matter if it's fast and small. Your primary point was rapid transport and that's what LAV's are for as far as rapid overland transport is concerned.

I doubt very seriously that CCP is going to put in another form of ground transport when you can already call in a free LAV. And if they did implement it correctly, you'd end up with at most a lightly armed transport, that moves slightly faster than a LAV, with all the toughness of unmounted infantry, that can be locked onto with SWARMs.

If I thought it was something CCP might do, I'd be +1ing you and asking for the addition of a heat lance, blade vanes, and cluster caltrops.

you seem not to get the point. The hover bike wiould be a more solo vehicle. and it wouldn't be justfor transport; there for drive-by combat (just so you won't be confused, it's when you go back and forth, or go past an area and try to kill as many enmies as possible.). There also could be for logi bros trying to get from point a to b faster than they do now with a LAV (or even with the LLV that's supposed to be coming.).

1. You can stop being a #unt just because someone disagrees with you.

2. My point still stands. It's unnecessary. I never said it wouldn't be fun. I never said it wasn't a good idea. I merely stated that CCP actually giving us hoverbikes, when we already have LAVs, is highly improbable. After all, I did say "If I thought it was something CCP might do, I'd be +1ing you and asking for the addition of a heat lance, blade vanes, and cluster caltrops."

I don't really go for this "We can get by with just this, so why add anything else?" attitude. Way too many games suffer from oversimplification these days and I say give Dust more stuff!

I like the idea of more personal vehicles anyway. They tend to get overlooked for the larger 'driver and gunner' stuff, simply because they support cooperative play. I guess with a bike you could have a passenger ride in the back but that should be it.

Only trouble I can think of with smaller vehicles is deployment. It's going to look silly when a massive carrier decloaks in to deliver your tiny bicycle. Maybe instead it delivers a container with multiple bikes? Would be handy at the start of a match we everybody needs to move out of the base.

Or forego the carrier altogether and deploy in a new way? Drops similar to how players are spawned on the field or something. Faster and lower risk then carriers but limited to 'man size' items.

Very interesting idea. Except I can't really picture a heavy hover bike.

Also since these are hover bikes... They won't be able to run a heavy over right? Last thing I want is to be run over by a hover bike
It's ridiculous enough LAVs don't get damaged from running a heavy over...

I have to say I don't want a personal hover bike that is armed, you'll get endless circle strafing against infantry. It would look stupid and silly. You would see majority of the time on them doing circles. Or come in at 80 mph, slide side ways shoot, then go back going straight.

Vanu in Planetside 2 has a hover tank.

If there is hover does that mean we can have a EMP explosive that shorts it out and makes it drop for a bit?

I say more team work, if the map is huge, get on a dropship, and deploy from it work together. One you deploy the dropships satellite to give you cover fire. No personal vehicles so everyone can lone wolf it.

Dust needs a APC and a Dropship.

Well, I'm what's called a team lone wolf. I still help my team, but I also like to sneak around by myself. Sadly, I can't in this game because there's no well thought out stealth aspects in the game YET. WHen there is, this should be one of them.

I want team work over a bunch of single players out for themselves. If you want to lone wolf but help the team ok, but you don't need a hover bike for this. Ask your dropship pilot to fly over a area you want to set your ambush at, then jump out. Then set up your position.

As it is now, so many matchs I am in you see solo LAV guy driving around.

But sadly I feel FPS are going to the lowest common type of player. The run and gun. I'd like a slower shooter, were tactic's when battles, not super fast meat shields that can take hundreds of rounds. And the only tactic is swarm.

I like the concept of the hover bike, but I find issue with your "heavy" bike. If you're knowingly entering "heavy" combat in a small vehicle, it should be an LAV - I dare you to out-shoot a 360 degree turret in a bike.
In my opinion, they should be a sort of "horse" for scouts that need to to fight as guerrillas, attacking and quickly disappearing in a cloud of dust.
That means a fast bike without weapons, as you don't need mounted weapons if you know how to use hit-and-run tactics.

LAVs are already small enough that Heavies are looking like they want to overflow.

The "problem" is that maps are large, but you don't want to use the existing solutions (LAVs and Dropships). Custom-fitted LAVs can be fast and tough to hit, and you can choose not to pile everyone into a single vehicle if you want. Put everyone in the group into their own FREE STARTER FIT LAV, and you can travel around in a group that way.

There isn't a real need for hoverbikes. There isn't a valid balance-related argument in favour of adding a faster, smaller vehicle type. There's only the "I think hoverbikes are cool so they should gimme" argument, really.

Vehicles in DUST give you several advantages, one of which is movement speed. They also have drawbacks, one of which is high visibility. You have a tradeoff between being fast and being able to hide yourself effectively. What you want is one of the core advantages to bringing vehicles, but without any of the tradeoffs that vehicles usually require.

Sorry, but while it would be cool, and would be fun, I don't see hoverbikes being a sensible option to add to the game.

But the LAV's and hover bikes would have a different role, because of size and crew. Since their smaller and faster, they're more of a "stealth" vehicle that most other vehicles like tanks won't even bother with you. And I'm not being a "#unt". You are not reading and thinking about it, and instead wanting to argue saying that it would be usless, when in fact these could win or lose a game. Just think about it.

And you accuse me of not reading. I never said it was useless. "I merely stated that CCP actually giving us hoverbikes, when we already have LAVs, is highly improbable.". And unnecessary doesn't = useless if that's what you were going on.