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The Masked Overlord
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Posted - 2012.10.27 22:38:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:. I've never seen that happen before. We have AV people in our corp and they had no trouble destroying vehicles.
Seeing as you are concerned about vehicle spamming and casual players being put off let's see what CCP will be putting in place in the future:
Matchmaking- casuals won't play with dedicated corps
ISK transfers- there will most likely be a form of exchange rate between Dust and EVE. 1 billion in EVE won't necessarily equal 1 billion In Dust.
Low sec and null sec- casuals will not be here. If anyone comes to these places then they should be prepared to deal with whatever is thrown at them.
I agree that there should be a limit on how many vehicles can be called in at once, but not on how many times that they an be replaced.
Some tanks cost over 1 million ISK so if they want to keep calling them in its their ISK not yours.
I could agree to that if they put in place a brief cooldown before you can call in another one after your first is destroyed. Maybe 15-30 seconds.
As for the division of players, I know what they plan to do. At the same time, AV and vehicles shouldn't be the main things needed in order for a corp to win a battle. Every type of player needs to be able to play their own role. It's almost impossible to play logi heal, logi repair, hmg, laser rifle, assult rifle, CQB, etc.,etc. when all that is on the field is vehicles with devastating turrets and cannons. If other players aren't as useful as AV's and vehicles (and possible really good snipers) in corp battles, why would any corp need them? If your running forge guns, you can jump out of a tank or dropship to hack an objective just as easily as any other weapon class, with the slight problem of being slower. But with 2 tanks covering you that speed disadvantage doesn't really matter all that much. |
v3k3v
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.27 22:38:00 -
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There is no vehicle imbalance... only a strategic imbalance. The team that makes the right choices wins... there are a ton of variables to go through and the most organised and intelligent decisions will win the match. |
RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.27 22:45:00 -
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The Masked Overlord wrote:RankRancid wrote:The Masked Overlord wrote:RankRancid wrote:Now that I think about it. How many fps games recently released don't have vehicles in them?
OP have you been playing crysis 2 lately?
Serious question like your one about what fps game has tanks and dropships( ok you get a point,yet you do get gunships,pavelows and AC-130 so I'll take that point back )
What fps has no tanks and 'dropships'? Is the better question I would imagine. How many times must I say this? I NEVER SAID NO TANKS OR DROPSHIPS! ARE YOU ALL DAFT OR JUST PLAYING IGNORANT?! LIMITS! I said LIMITS! I am NOT saying take them out. And I KNOW other games have them. They are also LIMITED in other FPS games, which is what I am suggesting HERE. And I said NO limits on regular matches, only in CORP battles. LEARN TO READ you illiterate b*astards. Lol I read your post where you were saying what fps genre game had a tank commando or dropships. I gave you an answer. No need to be angry. I didn't say you wanted the vehicles removed from game. You made a stupid statement. I showed you were it was flawed. Now take that butthurt somewhere else. Passing your angry monkeys on to me for nothing. I never said no FPS games have tanks or commando's, you are misinterpreting what I said. I was saying FPS games are not tank command with some FPS elements. Which is what this is turning into. Have fun misinterpreting some more, you seem to enjoy it.
My AC- 130 badge in mw3 says you are wrong. The thousands that have died to my assault drone would not agree with you. I used a small amount of fps elements to call in the OP vehicle kill streaks and would build and build with 0 more kills from my gun in some games but yes I must be misinterpreting some more.
The only game that doesn't have player controlled vehicles that can be 'OP' in skilled hands is crysis 2.
Or am I wrong? |
v3k3v
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.27 22:47:00 -
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Contra ftw |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.27 23:03:00 -
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To be honest I don't see any mention of removing vehicles in The Mask's post. Only mentions of suggested limitations. In regards to the reported number of vehicles per team, I may have to slap the person who told you that number. So far there is a limit of 5 total vehicles per team and that includes lavs, tanks, and drop ships. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:43:00 -
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You post about vehicle "spam" and that once Eve is integrated it will be endless. You don't know how much those vehicles will cost in Eve. No one does. It is all based on the market. Will Eve players even care enough to produce the vehicles, and if so, how much will they charge to do so? Will they think the pittance that the current price here on Dust will be nearly enough? What will the cost be to actually create the item as far as materials go? You see, there are still many unknowns about what the future holds to sit on these forums and scream that the sky is falling, when in fact, you can't even be sure there IS a sky. |
The Masked Overlord
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:58:00 -
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RankRancid wrote:The Masked Overlord wrote:RankRancid wrote:The Masked Overlord wrote:RankRancid wrote:Now that I think about it. How many fps games recently released don't have vehicles in them?
OP have you been playing crysis 2 lately?
Serious question like your one about what fps game has tanks and dropships( ok you get a point,yet you do get gunships,pavelows and AC-130 so I'll take that point back )
What fps has no tanks and 'dropships'? Is the better question I would imagine. How many times must I say this? I NEVER SAID NO TANKS OR DROPSHIPS! ARE YOU ALL DAFT OR JUST PLAYING IGNORANT?! LIMITS! I said LIMITS! I am NOT saying take them out. And I KNOW other games have them. They are also LIMITED in other FPS games, which is what I am suggesting HERE. And I said NO limits on regular matches, only in CORP battles. LEARN TO READ you illiterate b*astards. Lol I read your post where you were saying what fps genre game had a tank commando or dropships. I gave you an answer. No need to be angry. I didn't say you wanted the vehicles removed from game. You made a stupid statement. I showed you were it was flawed. Now take that butthurt somewhere else. Passing your angry monkeys on to me for nothing. I never said no FPS games have tanks or commando's, you are misinterpreting what I said. I was saying FPS games are not tank command with some FPS elements. Which is what this is turning into. Have fun misinterpreting some more, you seem to enjoy it. My AC- 130 badge in mw3 says you are wrong. The thousands that have died to my assault drone would not agree with you. I used a small amount of fps elements to call in the OP vehicle kill streaks and would build and build with 0 more kills from my gun in some games but yes I must be misinterpreting some more. The only game that doesn't have player controlled vehicles that can be 'OP' in skilled hands is crysis 2. Or am I wrong?
The AC-130 is also LIMITED by your ability to get them, and you can also only call in one at a time. Add to that the fact that the AC-130 has a very limited time in the air. Your a gunner with delusions of grandeur. That doesn't make MW3 not an FPS. The core game play of M3W stil requires FPS. Seriously, are you that oblivious to what I'm trying to say here? |
The Masked Overlord
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:To be honest I don't see any mention of removing vehicles in The Mask's post. Only mentions of suggested limitations. In regards to the reported number of vehicles per team, I may have to slap the person who told you that number. So far there is a limit of 5 total vehicles per team and that includes lavs, tanks, and drop ships.
5? I've personally killed more than 5 LAV in matches by my self. Are you sure it's 5? |
RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.10.28 15:03:00 -
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The Masked Overlord wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:To be honest I don't see any mention of removing vehicles in The Mask's post. Only mentions of suggested limitations. In regards to the reported number of vehicles per team, I may have to slap the person who told you that number. So far there is a limit of 5 total vehicles per team and that includes lavs, tanks, and drop ships. 5? I've personally killed more than 5 LAV in matches by my self. Are you sure it's 5?
I think he could mean 5 at a time. It could also be my delusions.
Sorry.
Edit: You do know that all assault streaks stack except for care packages? |
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