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Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:29:00 -
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The "official" rules Rules
Here is a link to the violation Official CCP Post
The problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact?
*edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:31:00 -
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They may say 1st 16 which is then 1st 8 for each region and if trittion isnt in the 1st 8 for the region then they aint in |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:36:00 -
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The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. |
DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
212
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:37:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact.
Now this is true, first post had first 16 not 8 per region.
And I quote" The first 16 CEOs that submit a valid application will be seeded into four groups of four corps each, eligible to participate in the Corporation Skirmish Tournament"
Where does it say the first 8 NA and the first 8 EU get the slots? It doesn't make sense to change rules a day before you announce the teams.
CCP = Fail |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:40:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. You sound a little butthurt you didn't get in.. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:43:00 -
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You could say 1st 16 still counts
So the EU clans in the EU region end up playing against US clans then lag becomes the major scapegoat with clans crying that they didnt get a fair game because they on EU servers |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:44:00 -
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To be honest i just want to know why the corps that didnt make it, didnt make it. A simple "we are sorry but all the slots for the tournament have been filled" Or "Your application was not in the proper format please change x and y and resubmit your application" Something as simple as that would have solved a lot. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:44:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. You sound a little butthurt you didn't get in.. So what if I am? I know for a FACT that our app was sent in before the call for more EU teams was placed. Why is this hard for you to understand? Several teams (the post in question mentioned several on standby) were removed from contention in clear violation of the stated rules. This undermines the credibility of CCP for running a fair tournament, and with a $10,000 tournament on Eve getting ready to happen, their credibility matters immensely. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
294
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:45:00 -
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CCP does hold the rights to alter there rules at any time.
But now why they did this. Well because when your dealing with 2 different regions of the world Lag becomes a factor. When US players play on EU server they deal with lots of lag. And when EU players play on US they have lots of lag.
So easiest way to do the tournament is to put EU players on one side of the tourny while US are on there own side. This way no team can say we loss because you made us play on the other sides server.
I think it was planned all along they just forgot to mention it in the forum post. Because they do talk about finals taking place on both EU and US server. Therefor giving each team equal oportunity in there region. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:51:00 -
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I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:51:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. You sound a little butthurt you didn't get in.. So what if I am? I know for a FACT that our app was sent in before the call for more EU teams was placed. Why is this hard for you to understand? Several teams (the post in question mentioned several on standby) were removed from contention in clear violation of the stated rules. This undermines the credibility of CCP for running a fair tournament, and with a $10,000 tournament on Eve getting ready to happen, their credibility matters immensely.
You need to get out the house more, it's just a game.
Mashing your keyboard in rage will not change a single thing other than making you look silly and allowing me to laugh at you. |
Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:58:00 -
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Asking for new apps after ours had gone in is not cool. It leaves a lot of confusion about the corp selection process. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
899
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:02:00 -
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The key thing is this "As such if you are an EU corp or at least a non NA corp who are willing to play on an EU battle server then please send your applications to [email protected] titled DUST 514 CST ENTRY."
I think this was CCP saying, "Hey, any US teams that want to make sure they have a spot update your app to say that you are willing to fight on EU side. We don't want people complaining of lag once they are on EU servers though."
Did Tritan Industries update their app to say they were willing to take EU slots? |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:09:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? Honestly you are only on the forums QQing about it in the hopes of CCP amending their decision, but wouldn't that be going against their rules also, and wouldn't that in turn allow for any corps that get removed because of it to also QQ about getting dropkicked out because of this.
Get over it and try and enjoy the game. This does not say anything about CCP's credibility just about your poor ability to receive bad news. I'm sorry you and your corp didn't get in, try again for the next tournament. |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:19:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? Honestly you are only on the forums QQing about it in the hopes of CCP amending their decision, but wouldn't that be going against their rules also, and wouldn't that in turn allow for any corps that get removed because of it to also QQ about getting dropkicked out because of this. Get over it and try and enjoy the game. This does not say anything about CCP's credibility just about your poor ability to receive bad news. I'm sorry you and your corp didn't get in, try again for the next tournament.
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:22:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? Honestly you are only on the forums QQing about it in the hopes of CCP amending their decision, but wouldn't that be going against their rules also, and wouldn't that in turn allow for any corps that get removed because of it to also QQ about getting dropkicked out because of this. Get over it and try and enjoy the game. This does not say anything about CCP's credibility just about your poor ability to receive bad news. I'm sorry you and your corp didn't get in, try again for the next tournament.
I am not asking them to amend their rules. I am asking that they go by the official rules and look at the timestamps on the submitted emails. First 16 get in. If Tritan or STB weren't first 16, fine by me. But them going back later and making a non-sticky that gets booted off first page because it can't be bumped calling for people to resubmit their apps because they decided to change the rules is pretty stupid. And $10,000 tournament coming up SHOULD make them worry a lot about how they look. |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:24:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament.
Honestly it has less to do with which side of the fence I'm on as my military background that tells me that's the way it is and get over it. Not trying to be rude on here just stating why he is on the forums, everyone knows he's just trying to get CCP to change their mind by building support on these forums.
If CCP does change their mind and mix everything up from what it is that will say more about CCP than if they just tell him and his corp to get over it and try next time. They are the devs and it's their decision to make, so let THEM make it.
EDIT: By saying let THEM make it, I mean send your complaint to them and let them decide from there instead of bringing your QQ onto the forums. You have every right to question them, but that's not the purpose of this thread. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:31:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Jariel Manton wrote:
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament.
Honestly it has less to do with which side of the fence I'm on as my military background that tells me that's the way it is and get over it. Not trying to be rude on here just stating why he is on the forums, everyone knows he's just trying to get CCP to change their mind by building support on these forums. If CCP does change their mind and mix everything up from what it is that will say more about CCP than if they just tell him and his corp to get over it and try next time. They are the devs and it's their decision to make, so let THEM make it.
I'm curious as to how your military background has anything to do with this, just as mine does not either. As far as to why I'm on the forums, you are right. I want the decision changed. I will say this though, I won't be in the tourny regardless of their decision. I have to work on the weekends, so already knew that I wouldn't be participating. I care because there is a $10,000 Eve tournament coming up and would hate to see them swoop in at last minute and feel they could change the rules at last minute there too and still have any sort of credibility left. |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:34:00 -
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All I'm gonna say, is that their corp selection method seems a little iffy, I haven't even heard of half of the corps participating. Perhaps first come first served wasn't the best idea? Meh. (Maybe having qualifying rounds would've been a better answer?) *Shrug* |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:42:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Jariel Manton wrote:
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament.
Honestly it has less to do with which side of the fence I'm on as my military background that tells me that's the way it is and get over it. Not trying to be rude on here just stating why he is on the forums, everyone knows he's just trying to get CCP to change their mind by building support on these forums. If CCP does change their mind and mix everything up from what it is that will say more about CCP than if they just tell him and his corp to get over it and try next time. They are the devs and it's their decision to make, so let THEM make it. I'm curious as to how your military background has anything to do with this, just as mine does not either. As far as to why I'm on the forums, you are right. I want the decision changed. I will say this though, I won't be in the tourny regardless of their decision. I have to work on the weekends, so already knew that I wouldn't be participating. I care because there is a $10,000 Eve tournament coming up and would hate to see them swoop in at last minute and feel they could change the rules at last minute there too and still have any sort of credibility left. In the military, when you're told to do something you just do it. Also I'll say again if that is your concern then take it up with CCP instead of posting up on the forums about how unfair it is to you and your corp. All you're doing there is trying to stir something up against CCP and there's really no point in that.
Don't know what branch you were in but in the Marines you are taught professionalism, and your post here is not professional.
Also the EVE tourney is completely seperate from this issue, Dust is still in beta and CCP's Dust team is trying to develop the game as well as come up with interesting things to keep the testers interested. On the EVE side they probably have a seperate team that is in place for events and ideas, so trying to relate the 2 really has no point either. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:46:00 -
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Oh give over, it's a joke. They've changed dates and denied 2 top tier US corps. Which Dev is in a US corp :P |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:51:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote: Dust is still in beta and CCP's Dust team is trying to develop the game as well as come up with interesting things to keep the testers interested.
Heh, if they wanna keep me interested, they can start with making the game more playable, not by hosting a tournament as a distraction.
EDIT: As for violating the rules, it doesn't really matter if the person breaking the rules, is the person that makes the rules (Just ask your government). Does it suck? Yeah, not much you can do about it though, other than let CCP know about it. ( I assume you did this already though) |
Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:02:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Jariel Manton wrote:
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament.
Honestly it has less to do with which side of the fence I'm on as my military background that tells me that's the way it is and get over it. Not trying to be rude on here just stating why he is on the forums, everyone knows he's just trying to get CCP to change their mind by building support on these forums. If CCP does change their mind and mix everything up from what it is that will say more about CCP than if they just tell him and his corp to get over it and try next time. They are the devs and it's their decision to make, so let THEM make it. I'm curious as to how your military background has anything to do with this, just as mine does not either. As far as to why I'm on the forums, you are right. I want the decision changed. I will say this though, I won't be in the tourny regardless of their decision. I have to work on the weekends, so already knew that I wouldn't be participating. I care because there is a $10,000 Eve tournament coming up and would hate to see them swoop in at last minute and feel they could change the rules at last minute there too and still have any sort of credibility left. In the military, when you're told to do something you just do it. Also I'll say again if that is your concern then take it up with CCP instead of posting up on the forums about how unfair it is to you and your corp. All you're doing there is trying to stir something up against CCP and there's really no point in that. Don't know what branch you were in but in the Marines you are taught professionalism, and your post here is not professional. Also the EVE tourney is completely seperate from this issue, Dust is still in beta and CCP's Dust team is trying to develop the game as well as come up with interesting things to keep the testers interested. On the EVE side they probably have a seperate team that is in place for events and ideas, so trying to relate the 2 really has no point either.
Professional? It's still a game mate. Saying a forum post asking for an explanation about a game tourney isn't professional is a bit... Let us not ask any questions because it is not professional.
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Wafflelauncher
Onslaught Inc
29
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:02:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Mashing your keyboard in rage will not change a single thing other than making you look silly and allowing me to laugh at you.
i'm stealing that ^.^ |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:04:00 -
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Max Tyrrell wrote:
Professional? It's still a game mate. Saying a forum post asking for an explanation about a game tourney isn't professional is a bit... Let us not ask any questions because it is not professional.
Again I will state, ask the question to CCP, don't whine about it on the forums. Never said don't ask questions.
Of course if this is your attempt at a troll or to discredit me then have fun with that. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:06:00 -
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Scurvy, you said to bring it to their attention. Well, guess what, this is where they have you do that. As far as being professional, that is all a matter of perspective, as you can look at your original reply and see where you weren't exactly very professional either. Being unprofessional would be me coming on here threatening, cursing, or something of the sort. I have done nothing but speak in complete sentences with proper spelling even. You came into my post using internet terminology commonly referred to as "leet speak". And for future reference, I have attempted to contact them via email and Twitter as well. The company has refused to respond in any way. This only serves to fuel the speculation that something is amiss. Were they just mad at STB? Did Tritan just fail to send in their application in time? Who knows? Why? Because CCP is not being open and honest with their player base. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:06:00 -
[27] - Quote
Scurvy, who's forums are these? Yes, that's right CCPs. I'd imagine Tritan would like an answer just like STB would. Now shhh. |
Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:08:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. You sound a little butthurt you didn't get in..
Yea Cerebral really fits his namesake, the use of the adjective butthurt really is powerful. Methinks a Freudian slip on his part. |
Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:10:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Max Tyrrell wrote:
Professional? It's still a game mate. Saying a forum post asking for an explanation about a game tourney isn't professional is a bit... Let us not ask any questions because it is not professional.
Again I will state, ask the question to CCP, don't whine about it on the forums. Never said don't ask questions. Of course if this is your attempt at a troll or to discredit me then have fun with that.
So it's ok for you to discredit others though? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:11:00 -
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Didn't CCP pick the best corps?... hmm, It looks that way... |
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Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:13:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Scurvy, who's forums are these? Yes, that's right CCPs. I'd imagine Tritan would like an answer just like STB would. Now shhh. ok
EDIT: saw Mister Hunt's post that he has tried other venues to address the issue, so I apologize for my part on this thread. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:14:00 -
[32] - Quote
Tritan guys: this thread will get flamed for us asking why things worked out this way, and that's all we really want, is to find out why. Please don't fuel the fire and let's keep this directed at CCP. Thanks. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:15:00 -
[33] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote: And for future reference, I have attempted to contact them via email and Twitter as well. The company has refused to respond in any way. This only serves to fuel the speculation that something is amiss
Just a note, most of the Dust team, if not all, operate from Shanghai. They're sleeping right now. So, they're probably not actively ignoring you, although I'm not sure if it's something they'll comment on anyway (if you emailed support, they probably don't have the info on something like this). I'd give them a while to respond to anything you've asked today, though, considering time zone issues. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:16:00 -
[34] - Quote
Sake Monster wrote:Tritan guys: this thread will get flamed for us asking why things worked out this way, and that's all we really want, is to find out why. Please don't fuel the fire and let's keep this directed at CCP. Thanks. Understood. I need to head off to bed anyway, have a long night at work ahead of me. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:16:00 -
[35] - Quote
Nah, they left out STB. Seriously doubting the legitimacy of this tour. "the final will be held 2 matches on EU server (that's what we'll tell you anyway) and 2 on the US (after you've played 2 there anyway)" Leaving out corps who registered early, and have numbers is pretty bad. I'm fairly sure both STB&TI hit 25 players before some other corps. |
Thrasher Knight
15
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:20:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Nah, they left out STB. Seriously doubting the legitimacy of this tour. "the final will be held 2 matches on EU server (that's what we'll tell you anyway) and 2 on the US (after you've played 2 there anyway)" Leaving out corps who registered early, and have numbers is pretty bad. I'm fairly sure both STB&TI hit 25 players before some other corps.
Agreed, again CCP is ruining their own game by catering to these teams. Come on they let in a corp that was made for the Tour, but on Eve that same sorta thing gets them kicked from tours. CCP make up your mind and stick with it. This Tournament is BS, if the top tier teams don't get accepted but Ringer teams do. Is this the precedence you want to put out there CCP. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:34:00 -
[37] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote: Leaving out corps who registered early, and have numbers is pretty bad. I'm fairly sure both STB&TI hit 25 players before some other corps.
Yeah, i'm sure they did, but when did they put their application in? Before or after the other 8 corps? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:39:00 -
[38] - Quote
Because the type of people who insinuate that someone is gay and think that its an insult are people who have issues with anyone being gay. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:40:00 -
[39] - Quote
First ones to sign up get in, they'd said that already why should all the top corps play and leave out the less known ones? |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:40:00 -
[40] - Quote
CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun |
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:42:00 -
[41] - Quote
There's going to be more tours. |
DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
212
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:46:00 -
[42] - Quote
4447 wrote:There's going to be more tours.
Yup, so STB and Trition will have to wait til then. Not the end of the world.
Guess I'll have to start rooting for you guys to win. |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:50:00 -
[43] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun
Well, the sad part is that it really isn't fair, whichever corps have more players with more SP, and have good vehicles will win. I dunno how many of the corps participating qualify as 'low level', but I get the feeling this tour wont even be fun to watch. With the exception of a few matches, it's probably just be one team rolling the other. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:51:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:4447 wrote:There's going to be more tours. Yup, so STB and Trition will have to wait til then. Not the end of the world. Guess I'll have to start rooting for you guys to win.
It's a shame STB are not in it |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:01:00 -
[45] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun Wow, that's taking it a bit too far. Besides toddler warfare is fun to watch.
EDIT: Also after saying my part before and things being cleared up that the OP has taken other measures as well to approach this with CCP, the rest of your corp has useful things to say in comparison to your response:
"We are the best and you didn't want us to steamroll everyone else!"
I wonder if your corp appreciates this type of representation? |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:01:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun Whoa Sev. Not sure how serious this post is meant to be, but if you are really this upset, i just ask you reel it in a bit please. We are all upset we didn't get in, but there are some quality corps who did, and there will be other tournaments, we will get our chance. |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
Scurvy Granger wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun Wow, that's taking it a bit too far. Besides toddler warfare is fun to watch.
At least until they get tired and take a nap. |
Max Tyrrell
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:05:00 -
[48] - Quote
Noel Bellamy wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun Wow, that's taking it a bit too far. Besides toddler warfare is fun to watch. At least until they get tired and take a nap.
Kinda reminds me of a 'Jackass' stunt. |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:15:00 -
[49] - Quote
Yes, it was the rule here, I just don't think it was a good idea. With so few corps right now, I guess it made enough sense, but I don't think it'll cut it in the future. I just figured having a few qualifying rounds would help avoid these kind of issues. |
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GM Unicorn
Game Masters C C P Alliance
320
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you |
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Mechanicus Lupus
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:29:00 -
[51] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:CCP reserves final judgment in all cases regarding the rules.
I'm not going to say whether or not this is fair, but it's their choice not yours or mine. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:32:00 -
[52] - Quote
GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you
Sometimes you're no fun at all. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:37:00 -
[53] - Quote
GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you Thanks Unicorn, my guys are upset about not getting in, especially due to the recent changes to the way you set it up, I'm working on reigning them in. |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.10.24 18:49:00 -
[54] - Quote
The stance from our side is now that "We blame Bush". |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:02:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:The stance from our side is now that "We blame Bush". Not Obama? He's the one in office lol |
Ghost-33
ShootBreakStab
108
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:03:00 -
[56] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:The stance from our side is now that "We blame Bush".
Solution |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:04:00 -
[57] - Quote
Scurvy Granger wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The stance from our side is now that "We blame Bush". Not Obama? He's the one in office lol
Bush caused the problem, Obama just refuses to fix it |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
Max Tyrrell wrote:Noel Bellamy wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:CCP you have fked the dog on this....2 of the most lethal crops left out from a testers tournament?
afraid that it will be "unfair" to the others?
this is war! there is no "unfair"
fine, if you want to put a group of toddlers in a room to fight it out have fun Wow, that's taking it a bit too far. Besides toddler warfare is fun to watch. At least until they get tired and take a nap. Kinda reminds me of a 'Jackass' stunt.
yea, lol was supposed to be a joke,
we will win in the long run anyway
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Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney.
Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer. |
Sake Monster
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
353
|
Posted - 2012.10.24 19:42:00 -
[60] - Quote
Sandromin Hes wrote:Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer. Sounds good, send me a mail in game and I'll let you know whenever we post one. |
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DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
212
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Sandromin Hes wrote:Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer.
Hey if you need some other corps to practice with, please contact me, Quickgloves or G-slick.
Good luck
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Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:56:00 -
[62] - Quote
DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Sandromin Hes wrote:Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer. Hey if you need some other corps to practice with, please contact me, Quickgloves or G-slick. Good luck
We'll tell both of you whether or not we got enough people to schedule one. |
Deejae
Universal Allies Inc.
23
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:41:00 -
[63] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and t hem needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3?
It's bullshyt man as soon as th post was up I sent my teams shyt in so fuckit.... BS'in CCP Lied... First 16 My ass I'm not buying any nor Aur from them..... Waste of cash. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
49
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
well to those that are in the tournament I wish yall the best. also, deejay stop acting like a child all the time. you are making the dust community look nearly as kiddy as the cod. |
D3LTA SUP3RMAN
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
244
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:06:00 -
[65] - Quote
Sandromin Hes wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Sandromin Hes wrote:Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer. Hey if you need some other corps to practice with, please contact me, Quickgloves or G-slick. Good luck We'll tell both of you whether or not we got enough people to schedule one.
The point is that 8^8 corp battles on a huge ass map with 5 capture points is mentally ********. All the real corporations around here wanted in so we could really use teamwork and tactics with 16 players. The corp battle system is garbage right now, because the contracts dont have any real implications, and the 4 man squad 8 man battle is just ridiculous. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
D3LTA SUP3RMAN wrote:Sandromin Hes wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Sandromin Hes wrote:Sake Monster wrote:I'm upset about it too Hunt, but what can you do? There will be plenty tournaments to come, we will get in the next one. For now, Tritan will be posting cheap corp battle contracts so those that got in can do some training. So be looking for those contacts and good luck to those in the tourney. Hey, we're looking for as much practice as we can cram in. We'll take you up on your offer. Hey if you need some other corps to practice with, please contact me, Quickgloves or G-slick. Good luck We'll tell both of you whether or not we got enough people to schedule one. The point is that 8^8 corp battles on a huge ass map with 5 capture points is mentally ********. All the real corporations around here wanted in so we could really use teamwork and tactics with 16 players. The corp battle system is garbage right now, because the contracts dont have any real implications, and the 4 man squad 8 man battle is just ridiculous.
Yes hopefully they go to 16v16 or more merc. corp battles after tourney, 8v8 is meh. Fun the first couple times, now its waiting around to shoot someone.
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
DEADPOOL5241 wrote:4447 wrote:There's going to be more tours. Yup, so STB and Trition will have to wait til then. Not the end of the world. Guess I'll have to start rooting for you guys to win.
I'll root for you in a tourney next time as well (assuimg younatent fighting against me that day). |
Vexen Krios
Doomheim
95
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:23:00 -
[68] - Quote
after reading most of this thread, I am beginning to wonder the same thing as everyone else in Tritan. I personally respect STB for the great teamwork and gun game. And i have faith in the fact that other teams would say such about Tritan. I was personally grinding SP the past two an a half weeks to try to do the best for my corp just in case I was on the roster for this tournament.
Having said that, it seems unfair to kick a corporation out of the tournament when said corporation had sent in the application in plenty of time. I know it had to be in time because our CEO had sent in the Application before i had even logged in to learn about the tournament....However im just being a broken record of everything that has been said.
But if the top tier teams didnt get in, that just means the REAL tournament will be taking place on the skirmish maps and the ambush maps. As sake stated, i would be more than happy to participate in practice corp battles for the teams that did make it into the tournament. Good luck to you. |
SGT2awesome4u
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:44:00 -
[69] - Quote
GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you love how you guys are just trying to avoid talking about this. Are you hiding something? |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:28:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jariel Manton wrote:To be honest i just want to know why the corps that didnt make it, didnt make it. A simple "we are sorry but all the slots for the tournament have been filled" Or "Your application was not in the proper format please change x and y and resubmit your application" Something as simple as that would have solved a lot.
This just this.
So Are we going get anything regarding "this" ?? |
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:35:00 -
[71] - Quote
URA sent their application in the first half hour of the post going up, we're part of the top 20 corps on LB (unlike half the corps in the tourney which are below 60) and we actually give a kitten. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
|
Posted - 2012.10.24 22:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? Looks like someones jealouse they didn't get in to the TT, i bet if you did you wouldn't be posting this.. If we didn't get in i wouldn't mind seeing as it's a beta an all and i'm sure there will be other Tournaments that your corp can apply for. So suck it up.
P.S UMADBRO ? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:55:00 -
[73] - Quote
Tbh, I'd be pissed if my corp hadn't made it. CCP owe these guys an explaination at the very least. |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
Vexen Krios wrote:after reading most of this thread, I am beginning to wonder the same thing as everyone else in Tritan. I personally respect STB for the great teamwork and gun game. And i have faith in the fact that other teams would say such about Tritan. I was personally grinding SP the past two an a half weeks to try to do the best for my corp just in case I was on the roster for this tournament.
Having said that, it seems unfair to kick a corporation out of the tournament when said corporation had sent in the application in plenty of time. I know it had to be in time because our CEO had sent in the Application before i had even logged in to learn about the tournament....However im just being a broken record of everything that has been said.
But if the top tier teams didnt get in, that just means the REAL tournament will be taking place on the skirmish maps and the ambush maps. As sake stated, i would be more than happy to participate in practice corp battles for the teams that did make it into the tournament. Good luck to you. What is your definition of top tier teams? Honestly this part is quite frustrating, if you want to argue that you think you sent in the tourney application before others and want timestamps etc. then argue that. But claiming that your corp is the best and that's why YOU should be in is just plain wrong. Especially when the rules were first come first served.
In Zion as a whole we don't have the best overall average, but we have players as good as any others just like other corps. I'm sure this is the case for many other corps too, so before you claim to be part of the elite wait until after you face the best of each.
The REAL tourney is going on everyday, you win some, you lose some and learn from it. Some top tier teams made it, and others did not. It will be fun playing against those in the tourney, and it will be fun playing against the others either in corp battles or in future tourneys. |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
|
Posted - 2012.10.24 23:15:00 -
[75] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? Looks like someones jealouse they didn't get in to the TT, i bet if you did you wouldn't be posting this.. If we didn't get in i wouldn't mind seeing as it's a beta an all and i'm sure there will be other Tournaments that your corp can apply for. So suck it up. P.S UMADBRO ?
if your going to say "UMADBRO" go back to cod or grow up |
Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:29:00 -
[76] - Quote
Scurvy Granger wrote: What is your definition of top tier teams? Honestly this part is quite frustrating, if you want to argue that you think you sent in the tourney application before others and want timestamps etc. then argue that. But claiming that your corp is the best and that's why YOU should be in is just plain wrong. Especially when the rules were first come first served.
In Zion as a whole we don't have the best overall average, but we have players as good as any others just like other corps. I'm sure this is the case for many other corps too, so before you claim to be part of the elite wait until after you face the best of each.
The REAL tourney is going on everyday, you win some, you lose some and learn from it. Some top tier teams made it, and others did not. It will be fun playing against those in the tourney, and it will be fun playing against the others either in corp battles or in future tourneys.
I'm inclined to agree Scurvy that Tritan cannot call itself a 'Top Tier Team' right now as there have not been enough proving grounds for such titles for ANYONE.
But that is part of the point also. This Testers Tournament IS somewhat of a proving ground. People can harp on saying that this Tourney doesn't matter, that it's just a Beta Tourney, but I will bet those that get in the Top 4 spots will always refer back to it when put against the wall and say: "remember when we beat your kitten in the first tourney?"
I don't think ANY Corps in the Tourney have ANY less right to be there, congratulations to them for that. But what I do believe is that CCP have some SERIOUS ground to make up since "The First 16" just got the rug pulled out from it. I have no idea whether we made the first 8 or not, but I'm sure as hell we made the first 16. It's like a kick in the guts. And it is far worse when some trolls try to minimize the fact that we, just as much as any other non-Tourney participant, didn't make it by saying "Go whine somewhere else, bro". Of course we are gonna whine! |
Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:32:00 -
[77] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote: Looks like someones jealouse they didn't get in to the TT, i bet if you did you wouldn't be posting this.. If we didn't get in i wouldn't mind seeing as it's a beta an all and i'm sure there will be other Tournaments that your corp can apply for. So suck it up.
P.S UMADBRO ?
Yeah, kind of easy to say that when you got in. Poor form DD. |
Stinker Butt
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:40:00 -
[78] - Quote
I would guess that the teams chosen had less to do with being first, but more to do with matching US players to EU players. It seems the only logical reason for wanting so much information up front. I really wouldn't blame them for doing it that way, to be fair and keep things somewhat interesting for both sides.
That being said, this is only the first test. Unless it goes perfectly flawless (which is very unlikely) there will certainly be more. And if CCP are wise, they will choose different corps next time. |
Vadre Zekariah
Zoobog Enterprises
37
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:42:00 -
[79] - Quote
Stinker Butt wrote:I would guess that the teams chosen had less to do with being first, but more to do with matching US players to EU players. It seems the only logical reason for wanting so much information up front. I really wouldn't blame them for doing it that way, to be fair and keep things somewhat interesting for both sides.
That being said, this is only the first test. Unless it goes perfectly flawless (which is very unlikely) there will certainly be more. And if CCP are wise, they will choose different corps next time.
Very True. I actually agree with the decision. But CCP should have made this decision clear when they first announced registration open. |
Sev Alcatraz
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
185
|
Posted - 2012.10.24 23:42:00 -
[80] - Quote
schrodingers cat
if you know anything about quantum physics you will know exactly what i mean when i say this. |
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Ani X
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
58
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:46:00 -
[81] - Quote
Our corp couldn't apply because of a bug. I'm sad because I would do almost anything just for that poster with the devs' signatures . But whatever. Chill, guys. This is just the first tournament of many to come.
I wish all of the participants much fun. And good luck to all ROFL mercs! |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
113
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:54:00 -
[82] - Quote
So this is what happens when im gone.......
Chill out guys, and stop feeding the trolls. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
|
Posted - 2012.10.25 00:02:00 -
[83] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? Looks like someones jealouse they didn't get in to the TT, i bet if you did you wouldn't be posting this.. If we didn't get in i wouldn't mind seeing as it's a beta an all and i'm sure there will be other Tournaments that your corp can apply for. So suck it up. P.S UMADBRO ? if your going to say "UMADBRO" go back to cod or grow up
Lol, well it seems CoD is the go to game for everything childish. But you guys are angry ya? Thus the saying "UMADBRO?"
Vadre Zekariah wrote: Yeah, kind of easy to say that when you got in. Poor form DD.
Well i was actually expecting to not get in, since our corp was pretty late in sending in the app and all... |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
|
Posted - 2012.10.25 00:04:00 -
[84] - Quote
undeadsoldier90 wrote:So this is what happens when im gone.......
Chill out guys, and stop feeding the trolls.
Aww i'm hungry |
VanguardCommander
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Jariel Manton wrote:
Its pretty easy to not care when your on that side of the fence eh? Don't be that guy. I'd say its completely fair to be requesting an explanation as well as to be upset, people have put a lot of time and thought into preparing for this tournament.
Honestly it has less to do with which side of the fence I'm on as my military background that tells me that's the way it is and get over it. Not trying to be rude on here just stating why he is on the forums, everyone knows he's just trying to get CCP to change their mind by building support on these forums. If CCP does change their mind and mix everything up from what it is that will say more about CCP than if they just tell him and his corp to get over it and try next time. They are the devs and it's their decision to make, so let THEM make it. I'm curious as to how your military background has anything to do with this, just as mine does not either. As far as to why I'm on the forums, you are right. I want the decision changed. I will say this though, I won't be in the tourny regardless of their decision. I have to work on the weekends, so already knew that I wouldn't be participating. I care because there is a $10,000 Eve tournament coming up and would hate to see them swoop in at last minute and feel they could change the rules at last minute there too and still have any sort of credibility left.
I have a military background as well and i know what he means: You have to understand that things can change at the last minute and there's nothing you can do about but accept and or file a complaint to CCP about this. A lot of people was looking forward to this and are upset but dont let this be a reason to hate the game move on you was playing this game before the tourney came up why stop now?? |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
|
Posted - 2012.10.25 00:07:00 -
[86] - Quote
4447 wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:4447 wrote:There's going to be more tours. Yup, so STB and Trition will have to wait til then. Not the end of the world. Guess I'll have to start rooting for you guys to win. It's a shame STB are not in it
I know i can understand "Tritan" not being in, but STB as well?! Come on ccp put those guys in there! |
Jaww Cloud
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
26
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:02:00 -
[87] - Quote
All Tritan Industries need to leave this thread alone. It sucks we didn't get in yeah but like some people said there will be others. Lets put this behind us and work on our skills for the next tournament.
Congratulations to those of you who made it in and better luck next time to those who didn't. Good luck everyone. |
Project Orian
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:45:00 -
[88] - Quote
Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The rules STILL state first 16. No where in there does it say ANYTHING about regions. They changed the rules after the fact. You sound a little butthurt you didn't get in.. So what if I am? I know for a FACT that our app was sent in before the call for more EU teams was placed. Why is this hard for you to understand? Several teams (the post in question mentioned several on standby) were removed from contention in clear violation of the stated rules. This undermines the credibility of CCP for running a fair tournament, and with a $10,000 tournament on Eve getting ready to happen, their credibility matters immensely. You need to get out the house more, it's just a game. Mashing your keyboard in rage will not change a single thing other than making you look silly and allowing me to laugh at you.
lol^ that made me laugh. i can just imagine the foaming at the outh the mashing of the keyboard |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:13:00 -
[89] - Quote
Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? "If you are a majority NA corp who believe you have enough members to compete on the EU battle server then feel free to update your existing application stating your ability to fight on EU soil."
So no violation -- just a warning that you'd risk fighting against the ping until you get to the finals.
Troll on. |
Noel Bellamy
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
36
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Posted - 2012.10.25 04:22:00 -
[90] - Quote
Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Mister Hunt wrote:The "official" rules RulesHere is a link to the violation Official CCP PostThe problem comes in where they state that it is the first 16 teams. Then they make another post about them being full on the NA spots, including the reserve slots, and them needing more EU teams. Tritan Industries had already sent in their entry, now they aren't on the list because CCP changed the rules after the fact? *edit* Basically I am asking what is the rule? What is in the sticky and on the actual website? Or a post that is buried back on page 3? "If you are a majority NA corp who believe you have enough members to compete on the EU battle server then feel free to update your existing application stating your ability to fight on EU soil." So no violation -- just a warning that you'd risk fighting against the ping until you get to the finals. Troll on. From what I understand, they sort of changed that AFTER the fact (or so I've gathered). Also note how that second post wasn't stickied (Herein lies the real problem, lack of sufficient notification). In anycase, I don't care for the whole 'first come first served' method itself, so meh. (Crud, random selection would've been a better method IMO.... Or better yet, Rock Paper Scissors to decide.) Either way, it's a little after the fact to do anything about it. I'm just looking forward to finding out that a tourney match lags out. XP |
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ProudCaliber Highwind
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:37:00 -
[91] - Quote
SGT2awesome4u wrote:GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you love how you guys are just trying to avoid talking about this. Are you hiding something? yah really, nothin besides that |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:37:00 -
[92] - Quote
Jaww Cloud wrote:All Tritan Industries need to leave this thread alone. It sucks we didn't get in yeah but like some people said there will be others. Lets put this behind us and work on our skills for the next tournament.
Congratulations to those of you who made it in and better luck next time to those who didn't. Good luck everyone.
^^^ Theres a real tritan! |
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GM Unicorn
Game Masters C C P Alliance
320
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:28:00 -
[93] - Quote
ProudCaliber Highwind wrote:SGT2awesome4u wrote:GM Unicorn wrote:Guys, I deleted few posts that were proper flame-starters. Please behave and try to be as polite as possible. Thank you love how you guys are just trying to avoid talking about this. Are you hiding something? yah really, nothin besides that
Not at all, but I'm not the person entitled to talk about everything since I don't know everything. As I said before, you can express your opinion while being polite. That's all. |
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Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
321
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:09:00 -
[94] - Quote
How dare you expect us to act like adults!
Edit: WWWAAAAWWWW! I want my bwankie! |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2012.10.25 14:12:00 -
[95] - Quote
lol a GM bumped this thread. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:04:00 -
[96] - Quote
http://quickgloves.wix.com/stbpureisfatal#!home/mainPage
hers a link with the email i sent CCP the one they claim i neer did ! |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
Quick, you know it's possible the email servers failed and they actually never got it, right? |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:38:00 -
[98] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Quick, you know it's possible the email servers failed and they actually never got it, right?
Happens all the time when i'm trying to book a taxi. Operator: Hi, how can i help you? Me: Yeah i booked a taxi for like 1hr ago for the airport just wondering if it's still on the way or .. Operator: What name was it under? Me: It's under _______ _____ Operator: i'm sorry there was no taxi booked for that time, would you like to book one now? Me: WTF i booked it ages ago!!! Operator: i'm sorry our :"servers/systems " must of went down Me: Thanks i just missed my flight!!!! |
SUcA FACE
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:43:00 -
[99] - Quote
i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:48:00 -
[100] - Quote
SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition.
Oh my god. nice trolling post ! |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:00:00 -
[101] - Quote
It doesn't matter once the real game begins. Blackops & halo4 will be where GC go. Imperfects without GC? Not scared. Good corp, but not the G.U.N. style GC bring. I'm still disappointed you merged with another clan and didn't just recruit some tankies :( |
Re-FLeX
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:04:00 -
[102] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:It doesn't matter once the real game begins. Blackops & halo4 will be where GC go. Imperfects without GC? Not scared. Good corp, but not the give up before you start that GC bring. I'm still disappointed you merged with another clan and didn't just recruit some tankies :(
Tbqh Tony we''ll be there at the beginning of each build, if the game is good enough/fun enough to play we'll stick around....
I'm sorry we're not all commited to this game like everyone else on these forums.
P.S Keep up the QQ'ing STB this sjit is too funny too read... |
Wicked Glory
Doomheim
171
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:16:00 -
[103] - Quote
On a scale of 1-10... How mad are you right now? |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:12:00 -
[104] - Quote
3, BUT, only because my roomate refuses to close the window and its cold as hell in here. Otherwise 1... maybe 2. ;) |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:43:00 -
[105] - Quote
SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition.
Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol.. |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:44:00 -
[106] - Quote
Jariel Manton wrote:3, BUT, only because my roomate refuses to close the window and its cold as hell in here. Otherwise 1... maybe 2. ;)
"Cold as hell" LOL |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:07:00 -
[107] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol..
Actually Suk_Face doesn't even play DUST and isn't in the imperfects he's from OG 3C who won the IGN tournament back on MAG. |
TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:16:00 -
[108] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol..
Why would he post as an alt......
What are you Jumpman's alt now? |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
162
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:46:00 -
[109] - Quote
Just my 2cents and I didn't read every post but I was disappointed that a lot of rule changing and suggestion were accepted after the fact. Like the day/time, our corp would have signed up had that been corrected before applications had basically closed and all slots filled. I'm sure CCP will learn from this experience and make it better in the next round, at least that's what I expect. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.26 02:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
Agreed Brush. Changing the day to suit the minority is just bad form. |
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SUcA FACE
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.10.26 03:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol..
HAHA no im not an alt my actual name is SUK_A_FACE i just dont play just yet lol waiting for this game to show me it deserves my specialties. Oh and dont worry if you dont know me yet if this game turns out any good im sure you will learn who I am very quickly.
oh and i just love trolling QQrs |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.26 04:08:00 -
[112] - Quote
SUcA FACE wrote:D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol.. HAHA no im not an alt my actual name is SUK_A_FACE i just dont play just yet lol waiting for this game to show me it deserves my specialties. Oh and dont worry if you dont know me yet if this game turns out any good im sure you will learn who I am very quickly. oh and i just love trolling QQrs
Ehh, doubtful... =) But i apologise , usually only imperfects are that arrogant. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
43
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Posted - 2012.10.26 05:58:00 -
[113] - Quote
xjumpman23 wrote:D3aTH D3alER54 wrote:SUcA FACE wrote:i think its funny that all these teams are raging over this... its not like you have a chance against the imperfects and G|C anyways lol. and stop crying and calling them ringers, just because you arent any good and cant beat them no need to cry. STB and all these other clans all got stomped out by 3C back in the day and now its gonna happen all over again. doesnt matter what our name is your still no competition. Just so people know ^^^^ this person is actually in Imperfects and is using a alt, talk about being a coward lol.. Actually Suk_Face doesn't even play DUST and isn't in the imperfects he's from OG 3C who won the IGN tournament back on MAG.
Oh you mean mags old booster club. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
43
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Posted - 2012.10.26 06:02:00 -
[114] - Quote
Unfortunately for CCP, rule changes only ever go over well when it benefits all players. Changing criteria after the fact would have been more acceptable had they issued emails to the first 16 teams, giving them a chance to revise their entries, before replacing them.
Just take what you learned with you to the next experience. We are still in beta, remember that |
Ripcord19981
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
20
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Posted - 2012.10.29 01:18:00 -
[115] - Quote
Why is this tournament such big deal, even if a corp did win the tournament, no body probably would even remember this tournament. In the end, most players will judge a corp depending on how much planets they helped takeover and other things like that. Winning a tournament and still not owning any sectors when the game comes out wouldn't make a corp great. |
Cloudy Zan
107
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Posted - 2012.10.29 02:23:00 -
[116] - Quote
Ripcord19981 wrote:Why is this tournament such big deal, even if a corp did win the tournament, no body probably would even remember this tournament. In the end, most players will judge a corp depending on how much planets they helped takeover and other things like that. Winning a tournament and still not owning any sectors when the game comes out wouldn't make a corp great. I'm in it for the 50 Officer snipers and a BO LAV, nothing else. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.10.29 03:14:00 -
[117] - Quote
Ripcord19981 wrote:Why is this tournament such big deal, even if a corp did win the tournament, no body probably would even remember this tournament. In the end, most players will judge a corp depending on how much planets they helped takeover and other things like that. Winning a tournament and still not owning any sectors when the game comes out wouldn't make a corp great.
KEQ is a Private Beta Tourney Participant. People will talk about the tourney... it will be remembered.
What makes a corp great is in the eye of the beholder... so in that aspect you are partially correct.
Either way... we were there...
CCP Games Video " I was there" |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:33:00 -
[118] - Quote
Ripcord19981 wrote:Why is this tournament such big deal, even if a corp did win the tournament, no body probably would even remember this tournament. In the end, most players will judge a corp depending on how much planets they helped takeover and other things like that. Winning a tournament and still not owning any sectors when the game comes out wouldn't make a corp great. I am inclined to agree. I like to look at the tournament as lots of fun and I am happy to participate in the event.
This game will have more depth and be about a lot more than leader boards and tournaments. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
109
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Posted - 2012.10.29 06:09:00 -
[119] - Quote
good for a laugh
special olympians still arguing about who is the most special.
you guys all get gold!!
don't forget your internet helmets
Peace B |
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