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Bosse Grahn
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:50:00 -
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I used to scour the battlefield looking for the wounded and dying, doling out second chances to dying souls inches from death... Until one day the mighty hammer of the CCP gods crippled my right arm (read: repair tool) and said unto me "Due to the sins of thine brethren, thou art punished and made lame. Cry unto the world of the woes thine WARRIORS brethren have cause to fall upon thy shoulders and rue the day they they teamed up to ruin the life of all logistics players!" Since that day I have struggled along repairing sparingly and trying to make up for lost progression with what useful tools remained available to one such as I.
I am no front line fighter, I am no 20/0 beast of the battlefield, I am but a lowly and poor soul who eeks out a living mainly from the kind souls who are courteous enough to use my nanohives, droplinks and hacks (which I rarely get wearing the second slowest suit in the game), and from helping out the occasional downed ally who requests my assistance. I am a crippled shadow of my former self without the growth help of my right arm.
I used to have a chance to be top of my teams scorboard on the merit of my helpful nature, being an awesome medic was just as rewarding as being an awesome defense for my team. Now I can only reach such a position when I play with a team that has a hard time dealing with the enemy and has no choice but to either spawn in at my droplinks or risk randomly spawning in front of an enemy.
I am going to have to try to put points into other areas late in the build now I suppose, and it is going to be painful to try to keep up with others who are far better specialized for combat than I am, but without any gain from my repair tool I feel I have little choice. If you see me on the battle field, look not for me to heal you any longer. I am through with it. If I am called upon by my corp to battle for them, I will use it for the good of STB even though it will cause me to lag in my score, but outside of that I will no longer be full Logi-support. If the great gods of CCP deem that I am worthy of having my right arm back I will come back with a vengeance to aid my brothers in arms, until then thank you for reading. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:54:00 -
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Could you rephrase that without all the rhetoric?
I'm having trouble understanding what, exactly, you want. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
966
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:56:00 -
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Keep the faith brother. Reps are still very much needed. The SP will return once the devs sort out the truck bumpers. Rather unfortunate about the SP issue with reps especially with the return of the heavies to the field. All those blue heavies will be eagerly anticipating your return. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:57:00 -
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oops. =P |
Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:03:00 -
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Rephrase? Ok. It's been said plenty, I was just wanting to write it in an entertaining way. (read: entertaining to me =P)
Rephrased: Fix the f*cking repair tool so medic-logistics players can have proper skill progression again.
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The Goram Batman
Forgotten Militia
12
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:09:00 -
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Haha, what a well written piece man.
But I agree wholeheartededly, without the earned points from repping, the rep tools are pretty much useless in comparison to other equipment. Hope CCP fixes this issue soon...I miss actually having a reason to rep pubbies. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:47:00 -
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was an entertaining read. i agree that i think they could have said no points for rep'n vehicles but still get points for rep'n people. they say this had to be a simple fix without a patch so i think this should've been do-able.
also, think of it this way. since you're going to be trying out front line, it'll make you a better medic in the end. no more rez'n people in front of fire only to die again immediately. you will be working on killing and should hopefully be able to clear enemies before rez'n your blue dot :) |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:52:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:Rephrase? Ok. It's been said plenty, I was just wanting to write it in an entertaining way. (read: entertaining to me =P)
Rephrased: Fix the f*cking repair tool so medic-logistics players can have proper skill progression again.
Ahhhh, I understand now. Thanks. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:53:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:I used to scour the battlefield looking for the wounded and dying, doling out second chances to dying souls inches from death... Until one day the mighty hammer of the CCP gods crippled my right arm (read: repair tool) and said unto me "Due to the sins of thine brethren, thou art punished and made lame. Cry unto the world of the woes thine WARRIORS brethren have cause to fall upon thy shoulders and rue the day they they teamed up to ruin the life of all logistics players!" Since that day I have struggled along repairing sparingly and trying to make up for lost progression with what useful tools remained available to one such as I.
I am no front line fighter, I am no 20/0 beast of the battlefield, I am but a lowly and poor soul who eeks out a living mainly from the kind souls who are courteous enough to use my nanohives, droplinks and hacks (which I rarely get wearing the second slowest suit in the game), and from helping out the occasional downed ally who requests my assistance. I am a crippled shadow of my former self without the growth help of my right arm.
I used to have a chance to be top of my teams scorboard on the merit of my helpful nature, being an awesome medic was just as rewarding as being an awesome defense for my team. Now I can only reach such a position when I play with a team that has a hard time dealing with the enemy and has no choice but to either spawn in at my droplinks or risk randomly spawning in front of an enemy.
I am going to have to try to put points into other areas late in the build now I suppose, and it is going to be painful to try to keep up with others who are far better specialized for combat than I am, but without any gain from my repair tool I feel I have little choice. If you see me on the battle field, look not for me to heal you any longer. I am through with it. If I am called upon by my corp to battle for them, I will use it for the good of STB even though it will cause me to lag in my score, but outside of that I will no longer be full Logi-support. If the great gods of CCP deem that I am worthy of having my right arm back I will come back with a vengeance to aid my brothers in arms, until then thank you for reading.
LMFAO. +2 for ya! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.10.23 18:53:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:Rephrase? Ok. It's been said plenty, I was just wanting to write it in an entertaining way. (read: entertaining to me =P)
Rephrased: Fix the f*cking repair tool so medic-logistics players can have proper skill progression again.
ROTFLMFAO! |
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Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.23 19:03:00 -
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The Goram Batman wrote:Haha, what a well written piece man.
But I agree wholeheartededly, without the earned points from repping, the rep tools are pretty much useless in comparison to other equipment. Hope CCP fixes this issue soon...I miss actually having a reason to rep pubbies.
Ima Leet wrote:was an entertaining read. i agree that i think they could have said no points for rep'n vehicles but still get points for rep'n people. they say this had to be a simple fix without a patch so i think this should've been do-able.
also, think of it this way. since you're going to be trying out front line, it'll make you a better medic in the end. no more rez'n people in front of fire only to die again immediately. you will be working on killing and should hopefully be able to clear enemies before rez'n your blue dot :) Thank you, I enjoyed writing it. ^_^ And too Leet, you do have a good point. It's just a shame to have to start trying to catch up with people who have been specializing for a few weeks. It'll be a while before I can afford an Assult suit that will let me carry around more than one piece of equipment. I feel useless without having at least nanohives and nanite injectors with me. Like I said, I'm no front line expert so kills will be small for me still. I'd keep running my logi-suits with an AR but they are slow and thin as paper compared to heavies and assults, and modules don't really help enough to fix that so I can properly compete on the front line. I'll do what I can though. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2012.10.23 19:12:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:was an entertaining read. i agree that i think they could have said no points for rep'n vehicles but still get points for rep'n people. they say this had to be a simple fix without a patch so i think this should've been do-able.
also, think of it this way. since you're going to be trying out front line, it'll make you a better medic in the end. no more rez'n people in front of fire only to die again immediately. you will be working on killing and should hopefully be able to clear enemies before rez'n your blue dot :)
Unfortunately SP Farming 2.0 involved a heavy suit with a Mass Driver shooting his own feet for the splash damage while sitting on nanohives supplied by his squad. That meant suit repairs had to go as well. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:05:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Ima Leet wrote:was an entertaining read. i agree that i think they could have said no points for rep'n vehicles but still get points for rep'n people. they say this had to be a simple fix without a patch so i think this should've been do-able.
also, think of it this way. since you're going to be trying out front line, it'll make you a better medic in the end. no more rez'n people in front of fire only to die again immediately. you will be working on killing and should hopefully be able to clear enemies before rez'n your blue dot :) Unfortunately SP Farming 2.0 involved a heavy suit with a Mass Driver shooting his own feet for the splash damage while sitting on nanohives supplied by his squad. That meant suit repairs had to go as well. Really? Jeez, never heard of them doing that one. People will come up with any they can to get out of having to actually work at skilling up. |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:11:00 -
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As usual, it's not so much a 'nerf hammer' as a 'nerf nuclear strike'.
Restore the +points from healing INFANTRY. Keep the +points from repairing Vehicles out. Problem solved. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
163
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:23:00 -
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When friendly fire gets turned on, I think you'll find SP farmers may have a harder time as their more honorable team mates will most likely kill them for it. |
VADOL II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:41:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:When friendly fire gets turned on, I think you'll find SP farmers may have a harder time as their more honorable team mates will most likely kill them for it.
But those farmers will already presumably be ahead in SP, and therefore shoot back with their adv/proto gear. We all say that these people have no skill because of the farming, but some of them are actually quite good. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:47:00 -
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VADOL II wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:When friendly fire gets turned on, I think you'll find SP farmers may have a harder time as their more honorable team mates will most likely kill them for it. But those farmers will already presumably be ahead in SP, and therefore shoot back with their adv/proto gear. We all say that these people have no skill because of the farming, but some of them are actually quite good. I never said they didn't have skill, I merely suggested that they are lazy asses who are trying everything they can to get out of working for their gear and skills. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
163
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:51:00 -
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Overlord Zero wrote:VADOL II wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:When friendly fire gets turned on, I think you'll find SP farmers may have a harder time as their more honorable team mates will most likely kill them for it. But those farmers will already presumably be ahead in SP, and therefore shoot back with their adv/proto gear. We all say that these people have no skill because of the farming, but some of them are actually quite good. I never said they didn't have skill, I merely suggested that they are lazy asses who are trying everything they can to get out of working for their gear and skills.
"Oh look! 'insert name' is SP farming." *one, or more, squads shred him repeatedly.
I would hope this would happen to the SP farmers.
As a dedicated AV heavy, I miss the days when I would be at ten percent armor and my reps healing at 5hp per sec then, suddenly, zip... Back at full armor. Two jumps of appreciation and thanks and off I'd go to shoot more vehicles or scrambler more infantry. |
Miss Practice
30
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:01:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:I used to scour the battlefield looking for the wounded and dying, doling out second chances to dying souls inches from death... Until one day the mighty hammer of the CCP gods crippled my right arm (read: repair tool) and said unto me "Due to the sins of thine brethren, thou art punished and made lame. Cry unto the world of the woes thine WARRIORS brethren have cause to fall upon thy shoulders and rue the day they they teamed up to ruin the life of all logistics players!" Since that day I have struggled along repairing sparingly and trying to make up for lost progression with what useful tools remained available to one such as I.
I am no front line fighter, I am no 20/0 beast of the battlefield, I am but a lowly and poor soul who eeks out a living mainly from the kind souls who are courteous enough to use my nanohives, droplinks and hacks (which I rarely get wearing the second slowest suit in the game), and from helping out the occasional downed ally who requests my assistance. I am a crippled shadow of my former self without the growth help of my right arm.
I used to have a chance to be top of my teams scorboard on the merit of my helpful nature, being an awesome medic was just as rewarding as being an awesome defense for my team. Now I can only reach such a position when I play with a team that has a hard time dealing with the enemy and has no choice but to either spawn in at my droplinks or risk randomly spawning in front of an enemy.
I am going to have to try to put points into other areas late in the build now I suppose, and it is going to be painful to try to keep up with others who are far better specialized for combat than I am, but without any gain from my repair tool I feel I have little choice. If you see me on the battle field, look not for me to heal you any longer. I am through with it. If I am called upon by my corp to battle for them, I will use it for the good of STB even though it will cause me to lag in my score, but outside of that I will no longer be full Logi-support. If the great gods of CCP deem that I am worthy of having my right arm back I will come back with a vengeance to aid my brothers in arms, until then thank you for reading.
As someone who repped pre-Codex, I haven't noticed a change in my SPl. I gain more SP by carrying an extra nanohive or uplink anyways. Now, in corp battles ect i will always run a rep if i have a heavy to follow, but for the most part the 25 sp from healing someone was never consistent, i would probably get around two or three +25 sp's a match, regardless of the fact that i was healing _EVERYONE_. The tick for WP was way off, meaning, you needed to heal heavies to get ensure you would get a tick. |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:16:00 -
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Miss Practice wrote:Bosse Grahn wrote:I used to scour the battlefield looking for the wounded and dying, doling out second chances to dying souls inches from death... Until one day the mighty hammer of the CCP gods crippled my right arm (read: repair tool) and said unto me "Due to the sins of thine brethren, thou art punished and made lame. Cry unto the world of the woes thine WARRIORS brethren have cause to fall upon thy shoulders and rue the day they they teamed up to ruin the life of all logistics players!" Since that day I have struggled along repairing sparingly and trying to make up for lost progression with what useful tools remained available to one such as I.
I am no front line fighter, I am no 20/0 beast of the battlefield, I am but a lowly and poor soul who eeks out a living mainly from the kind souls who are courteous enough to use my nanohives, droplinks and hacks (which I rarely get wearing the second slowest suit in the game), and from helping out the occasional downed ally who requests my assistance. I am a crippled shadow of my former self without the growth help of my right arm.
I used to have a chance to be top of my teams scorboard on the merit of my helpful nature, being an awesome medic was just as rewarding as being an awesome defense for my team. Now I can only reach such a position when I play with a team that has a hard time dealing with the enemy and has no choice but to either spawn in at my droplinks or risk randomly spawning in front of an enemy.
I am going to have to try to put points into other areas late in the build now I suppose, and it is going to be painful to try to keep up with others who are far better specialized for combat than I am, but without any gain from my repair tool I feel I have little choice. If you see me on the battle field, look not for me to heal you any longer. I am through with it. If I am called upon by my corp to battle for them, I will use it for the good of STB even though it will cause me to lag in my score, but outside of that I will no longer be full Logi-support. If the great gods of CCP deem that I am worthy of having my right arm back I will come back with a vengeance to aid my brothers in arms, until then thank you for reading. As someone who repped pre-Codex, I haven't noticed a change in my SPl. I gain more SP by carrying an extra nanohive or uplink anyways. Now, in corp battles ect i will always run a rep if i have a heavy to follow, but for the most part the 25 sp from healing someone was never consistent, i would probably get around two or three +25 sp's a match, regardless of the fact that i was healing _EVERYONE_. The tick for WP was way off, meaning, you needed to heal heavies to get ensure you would get a tick. I would ride in an LAV with my squad to objectives. Once it was hacked, I'd heal everyone and repair the LAV which almost always takes some damage from random grenades and bullets then move on to the next. Also, repairing supply depots and weapon installations gave up plenty. You don't want to enter an installation that can only handle one more hit, so repping an installation for an ally was a big help and repping it as it takes swarms can let the person in it be able to get off one or two more shots before it goes down. I would also sometimes (when I could get a bunch of people together) run in a straight logi-squad and the rest of my team would protect our group and bring their vehicles and wounded to us in ambush matches for repairs.
You apparently didn't know how to take full advantage of the repair tools many uses for SP. They did at one point disable repping installations and supply depots I think, but there was plenty of SP to be had with a repair tool if you knew where to look. I ran nothing but repair tools and nanohives and was near the top almost every match with little or no kills. This pissed off those who obsess over K/D ratio when I scored a 2/2 kdr and my score topped people with a 17/1, but I felt I was being recognized for being a highly useful part of the team despite not being an excellent front line fighter. I use droplinks plenty and hives too, but it doesn't make up for the SP I got for actively supporting my team when they are in firefights. |
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Tyler Hall
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:07:00 -
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i too still carry the rep gun, and people do seem to arppriciate it...BUT a lot of teammates still look at the K/D when the battle ends and and think you aren't contributing as much as them. you just have to find a group of people who need a Logi and you can still end up at, or close to, the top. you may have a K/D of 7/9, but if you revive 3-5 guys and rep a few more, not to mention the nanohives, you have done a made effort for the team. you just have to remember "it's for the team" even if they don't realize it. |
Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.24 13:19:00 -
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Tyler Hall wrote:i too still carry the rep gun, and people do seem to arppriciate it...BUT a lot of teammates still look at the K/D when the battle ends and and think you aren't contributing as much as them. you just have to find a group of people who need a Logi and you can still end up at, or close to, the top. you may have a K/D of 7/9, but if you revive 3-5 guys and rep a few more, not to mention the nanohives, you have done a made effort for the team. you just have to remember "it's for the team" even if they don't realize it. Yeah, Logi's (especially medi-logi's) are definitely taking one for the team... So glad this is only a beta right now. But Beta or not, it's still a game and I don't like not being recognized for my efforts. Which is why I'm trying to get some fighting done now. =P |
VADOL II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:36:00 -
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I still carry my Rep, wouldn't feel like a LogiBro if I didn't. It was especially gratifying the other day when I was repping a blue STB heavy, and he turned around to face me and started hopping in the air while I was bringing him back up. It's the little things like seeing the appreciation (and not running away from me as I try to rep right after reviving you) that make me keep playing a LogiBro. |
Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:56:00 -
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VADOL II wrote: I still carry my Rep, wouldn't feel like a LogiBro if I didn't. It was especially gratifying the other day when I was repping a blue STB heavy, and he turned around to face me and started hopping in the air while I was bringing him back up. It's the little things like seeing the appreciation (and not running away from me as I try to rep right after reviving you) that make me keep playing a LogiBro. When people used to repp me I gave them a nodding motion (look at them, look down, then look back at them) because it always threw me off when I repped people and they jumped around. But now that I know it's a show of appreciation, I don't mind it as much. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:01:00 -
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^AMEN my logi brother. Never turn your back on your calling. SP gain should neither limits nor determine your destiny. We play as a team, for the team, and for the empress (Amarr). Stay true to the 5 Pillars of the Logi Code and long will be the tales of your service to your fellow man.
Thanks is appreciated, but unnecessary - you will be healed regardless, unless I lose my life trying to save yours... only to try again. |
VADOL II
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:29:00 -
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Bosse Grahn wrote:VADOL II wrote: I still carry my Rep, wouldn't feel like a LogiBro if I didn't. It was especially gratifying the other day when I was repping a blue STB heavy, and he turned around to face me and started hopping in the air while I was bringing him back up. It's the little things like seeing the appreciation (and not running away from me as I try to rep right after reviving you) that make me keep playing a LogiBro. When people used to repp me I gave them a nodding motion (look at them, look down, then look back at them) because it always threw me off when I repped people and they jumped around. But now that I know it's a show of appreciation, I don't mind it as much.
Rep guns lock on the subject, and as long as you stay within it's range, you will keep getting your reps. Jumping is fine. :-D |
Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:47:00 -
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hmmm |
Bosse Grahn
90
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:49:00 -
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VADOL II wrote:Bosse Grahn wrote:VADOL II wrote: I still carry my Rep, wouldn't feel like a LogiBro if I didn't. It was especially gratifying the other day when I was repping a blue STB heavy, and he turned around to face me and started hopping in the air while I was bringing him back up. It's the little things like seeing the appreciation (and not running away from me as I try to rep right after reviving you) that make me keep playing a LogiBro. When people used to repp me I gave them a nodding motion (look at them, look down, then look back at them) because it always threw me off when I repped people and they jumped around. But now that I know it's a show of appreciation, I don't mind it as much. Rep guns lock on the subject, and as long as you stay within it's range, you will keep getting your reps. Jumping is fine. :-D
No, I didn't mean it messed up my repp, I just meant it threw me off mentally. I had no idea if they were glitching or just being dumb. ^^ But like I said, I know better now. |
VK deathslaer
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:57:00 -
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I will no longer give out repps to my teamates. I will be a selfish logi player. I shall not revive, nor rearm my fellow warriors. For i am made useless. Far worse then a developer who has no clue on how to make a proper FPS. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:19:00 -
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VADOL II wrote: I still carry my Rep, wouldn't feel like a LogiBro if I didn't. It was especially gratifying the other day when I was repping a blue STB heavy, and he turned around to face me and started hopping in the air while I was bringing him back up. It's the little things like seeing the appreciation (and not running away from me as I try to rep right after reviving you) that make me keep playing a LogiBro.
we do love our frienldy logi!@ |
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Overlord Zero
Doomheim
75
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Posted - 2013.01.09 05:23:00 -
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I miss being Bosse Grahn.... I also miss all the SP I would have had if I had stuck with him instead of deleting him after using him for so long... ='( |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:46:00 -
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I rarely did the vehicle, installation reps because I wasn't playing that often back then.
Since I have mostly played just before Chromosome the reps are okay but keeping a Rail Gun from disappearing would be a definite bonus. Even Blue HAVs want them gone.
When I am running with corp squads they understand having a Logi around and I enjoy teaming with a Heavy. Personally I make a lot of points off the other equipment as well. The KDR crowd doesn't seem to care or understand that burning through clones costs them battles.
As for the public matches? Well, my other focus is Sniper. |
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