So, I'm very tired of deploying to a map with all points taken and ONE Gunloggi owning everyone (I'm looking at you Noc, Ted, Bane). Randoms, you are all becoming liabilities, grabbing ineffective swarm launchers, and promptly getting slaughtered. I would say the Zone we are about to enter in one of danger.

So, I'm very tired of deploying to a map with all points taken and ONE Gunloggi owning everyone (I'm looking at you Noc, Ted, Bane). Randoms, you are all becoming liabilities, grabbing ineffective swarm launchers, and promptly getting slaughtered. I would say the Zone we are about to enter in one of danger.

OP lolno

They easy to destroy with minimal SP and ISK

lolno

Shield tanks are clearly superior to armor tanks
please dont say "tanks" are OP when its shield tanks giving u a hard time
its the same situation before as well when everyone had gunnlogis and sargaris' and ppl said "tanks" were OP but didnt realise it was shield tanks.

Armor gets no love from CCP atm.

Shield tanks now have Shield Hardeners, Armor doesnt.
Does that make tanks OP? i dont think so....Missiles are a bit ridiculous tbqh

Armor needs armor hardeners as well tbh




^ pretty much this till u see a well fit gunnlogi then that takes some effort to get down. Armor tanks? not so much considering FREE militia swarms do 1200 dmg and can bend around corners

Considering nothing has changed I would tend to think it is the teams you are working with. My team routinely has no trouble taking them down, when I'm working in a squad of corp mates.

This, the reason you feel like your getting owned is because you dont have a good team to run with. Join a corp! Work together and you'll see just how easy it is to deal with tanks.

Am in a corp. ROUGHNECK RAPTORS. tia

So, I'm very tired of deploying to a map with all points taken and ONE Gunloggi owning everyone (I'm looking at you Noc, Ted, Bane). Randoms, you are all becoming liabilities, grabbing ineffective swarm launchers, and promptly getting slaughtered. I would say the Zone we are about to enter in one of danger.

Recommend your group practice AV skills.

I popped ted yesterday with militia AV and a level 1 SL, they really are quite easy to kill if you're persistent and educated about what you're doing.

They loose a lot more isk than i do when they die.

So, I'm very tired of deploying to a map with all points taken and ONE Gunloggi owning everyone (I'm looking at you Noc, Ted, Bane). Randoms, you are all becoming liabilities, grabbing ineffective swarm launchers, and promptly getting slaughtered. I would say the Zone we are about to enter in one of danger.

I have not speced into any AV and have no milita swarm launcher builds. I agree with the OP 100% they are so overpowered.

I spent over 600 rounds attacking a gunlogi yesterday with a fully upgraded adv AR and it didn't do anything.

Its not fair and this kind of thing will drive away 90% of the playerbase.

I popped ted yesterday with militia AV and a level 1 SL, they really are quite easy to kill if you're persistent and educated about what you're doing.

They loose a lot more isk than i do when they die.

I have not speced into any AV and have no milita swarm launcher builds. I agree with the OP 100% they are so overpowered.

I spent over 600 rounds attacking a gunlogi yesterday with a fully upgraded adv AR and it didn't do anything.

Its not fair and this kind of thing will drive away 90% of the playerbase.

IMO this shouldnt be possible any way, killing a HAV solo with Militia gear is a joke tbh.

all AV should have to be spec'd into like Forge guns and if you dont spec into it dont expect them to die.

Too the OP, HAV arent OP its because they take effort to kill decent ones which atm, players just want free easy kills. If you want to see them melt spec into AV then you will see them running for cover pretty fast.

Recommend you re read OP carefully, very carefully. This is not a corp issue, it's a luck of the draw issue, as I specifically call out randoms.

you made me cry a little inside

Sadface

Want to know what those shield tankers do not like with a passion? RAIL GUNS!

Tank or Field mounted rails are a nightmare to shield tanks, specially if they start hammering before the tank sees them.

And since they can't infini sheild tank like before the patch, they DO pay more attention to those things.

I also found a Blaster Turret is deadly to them too.

Also, Militia launchers can take them out, if you get 3 or 4 shooting at the same time. We took a Gun down in a skirmish match that way. He realized too late he'd pissed off too many people and started running, only to die from chasers.

Using Non-Militia Swarms is even better. Remember, you only have to step out far enough to target any part of the tank. You don't necessarily have to be out far enough for the turret to hit you, just enough to get a lock. Then you can pop the swarms over hill tops and around courners.

IMO this shouldnt be possible any way, killing a HAV solo with Militia gear is a joke tbh.

all AV should have to be spec'd into like Forge guns and if you dont spec into it dont expect them to die.

Too the OP, HAV arent OP its because they take effort to kill decent ones which atm, players just want free easy kills. If you want to see them melt spec into AV then you will see them running for cover pretty fast.

since we are on this whole Op thing I think forges are OP now don't go yelling at me I rarely use a tank I'm just saying if a forge can kill so easy like with the assualt one and can kill infantry so easy something should be ajusted

So, I'm very tired of deploying to a map with all points taken and ONE Gunloggi owning everyone (I'm looking at you Noc, Ted, Bane). Randoms, you are all becoming liabilities, grabbing ineffective swarm launchers, and promptly getting slaughtered. I would say the Zone we are about to enter in one of danger.

A single forge gun can take out a tank and usually there's others helping.

I have not speced into any AV and have no milita swarm launcher builds. I agree with the OP 100% they are so overpowered.

I spent over 600 rounds attacking a gunlogi yesterday with a fully upgraded adv AR and it didn't do anything.

Its not fair and this kind of thing will drive away 90% of the playerbase.

Um, you wasted AR rounds on a TANK? What did you expect it to do? Melt like an Impact?

Dude it's a TANK. Shooting an AR at a Tank is like shooting BBs at a Volkswagon. Sure, it'll ding the paint a bit, but it ain't going to explode if it's shields are up. And maybe not if the shields are down either.

More like he'll just run you over for being annoying.

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since we are on this whole Op thing I think forges are OP now don't go yelling at me I rarely use a tank I'm just saying if a forge can kill so easy like with the assualt one and can kill infantry so easy something should be ajusted

I thought Sha Kharn was being obvious enough that no one could mistake that for sincerity, proving once again that no assumed level of stupidity in DUSTers is too stupid.

I have never enjoyed vehicles in a shooter. They never have a comfortable balance.

Insisting that en entire squad needs to work together to take down a tank seems like flawed logic, and also assumes that the enemy squad just sits back and ignores you while everyone focuses on their tank.....

I know what your saying OP i totally agree with you they are even more overpowered than before! Last night i got blasted by a tank and was sent flying like 2 KM onto the redzone! LITERALLY went flaying for like 5 seconds! :O

Huh? Really? Tanks are NOT OP! Leave them alone except for armor tanks that need a little TLC!

hahaha yeah im not even kidding these has happened to me two times! im just sent flying to to other side of the planet
I know tanks are NOT overpowered any more just making fun of what happened to me probably its a glitch!

I have never enjoyed vehicles in a shooter. They never have a comfortable balance.

Insisting that en entire squad needs to work together to take down a tank seems like flawed logic, and also assumes that the enemy squad just sits back and ignores you while everyone focuses on their tank.....

I would like to hear your reasoning on this. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, i'm just curious.

So, a Tank which is crewed by 3 people shouldn't need an enemy Squad to take them out, it should just require one guy, correct?

**** logic.

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The first statement was just preference.

My reasoning behind the second statement is that i the most common defense of tanks being so powerful is that "They are fine, you just need to work together with your entire squad to take them down. Dont play with randoms".
I know that the EVE universe is vast, but in what world does it make sense to balance 1 tank/2 people vs a full squad?

Also, it seems that if my squad is focusing their attention and effort to take down this tank then that leaves the rest of the enemy squad to either work together as well, with a tank, and annihilate us or focus their attention elsewhere and gain a huge tactical advantage.
Its like saying "They can afford a tank, so they deserve a huge advantage"

I am too new to Dust to propose any kind of balance suggestions, but this general defense of the way tanks are now is flawed........

hahaha yeah im not even kidding these has happened to me two times! im just sent flying to to other side of the planet
I know tanks are NOT overpowered any more just making fun of what happened to me probably its a glitch!

I have not speced into any AV and have no milita swarm launcher builds. I agree with the OP 100% they are so overpowered.

I spent over 600 rounds attacking a gunlogi yesterday with a fully upgraded adv AR and it didn't do anything.

Its not fair and this kind of thing will drive away 90% of the playerbase.

I was waiting for the other shoe to drop but then it did and no one noticed because we were all too busy arguing about whether or not tanks were OP again...

But did I not hear a rumor that there was some sort of anti armor sniper rifle planned that you could use to target very specific weak spots on vehicles and take them out that way... ? Or is that just a railgun installation...

So, a Tank which is crewed by 3 people shouldn't need an enemy Squad to take them out, it should just require one guy, correct?

**** logic.

why does every nub only use swarms for everything theres a far better AV weapon called Forge it gets the job done and your not sitting there crossing your fingers that your swarms will actually hit your damn target.