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Ops Fox
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Posted - 2012.10.21 21:39:00 -
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Can we get a uplink drop that turns black if a enemy soldier is near? Figured this be a logical counter to uplink camping |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 01:28:00 -
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Not asking for all uplinks to detect just special more expensive ones, alao whats wrong woth a deployable radar I would hope we get one soon, I would just like a expenaive uplink that turns black when an enemy is detecting it or is near it. I agree valid tactic thats why I dont ask for something stupid like spawn shield or something but to add another element to that tactic this would be useful, it doesnt stop you from spawning in just gives you a general idea wether its safe.
Besides if it was based up looking at it and being near players could fit a bunch of scan modules and make a profesion of it. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 01:42:00 -
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How if I pay more money for a "Smart Uplink" to counter not end or nerf camping so be it, Figure away around it the mechanics I gave arnt realy that smart a little bit of creativity would be required to camp the smart uplinks but they still be campable just require a bit of effort.
Risk deploying a expensive piece of equipment reward knowing if your going to be looking down a shotgun when you spawn. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 01:58:00 -
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Smart uplink could cost twice the normal uplink price for thier tier, higher tiers have a larger radius.
Anyway simple idea I as a mercenary with professionally engineered equipment designed to win, should be able to pay more money for a bit of simple help a proximty detector from a AVmine geared toward persenel shoved into a uplink. I pay more money for more tacticl awareness, not for a end to camping just give me way to counter it.
(Well thats my oblitory beta feedback see you next sunday, maybe I can bribe aveneger to keep this alive)
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:05:00 -
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Just thought of this if you plan on camping uplinks why dont you fit dampeners and ignore it in the first place?
Check it out a counter to this counter all ready exist. I stick by the idea of imbalanced warfare and countering every tactic should have a counter not a merf or a fix but a counter if its OP counter it with something else OPed, dont disclude an idea becuase it stop you from doing something think of another counter and watch as dust evolves from a simple FPS to a true in depth and constantly changing war game. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:19:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Ops Fox wrote:Just thought of this if you plan on camping uplinks why dont you fit dampeners and ignore it in the first place? That really doesn't make sense, there's no point to ignoring free kills on idiots that weren't aware of where they were spawning and it would cost a lot more than just the combined prices because of the dual functionality
I knew exactly where I was spawning.
You can still stand there just my extra bucks goes to keeping me alive and wasting your time.
your right, got to calculate the cost of duck tape.
what im saying is if you fit profile dampeners it should make it harder for you to be detected in the first place, thus allowing you to camp the special uplinks, besides most people are cheap they are going to go for the cheap uplinks why are you worrying camping still be a valid tactic what does it matter if I can know what if my extra expensive Uplink is being camped?
camping would still be valid and with a bit of effort just like that bit of extra money you can complete ignore the detector on my new uplinks. Whats wrong with them. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:29:00 -
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:33:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:So take away one of my slots because you can't make good decisions when choosing a spawn, genius!
(SARCASM LEVEL OVER REGNUM)
Not taking away your slots its voluntary
Why should I have to pay more isk for this effect?
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:40:00 -
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Theoretical we might not be playing eve, this is just a theory though.
What bothers you about this if I pay more money for something to get a little bit more tactical awareness, then so be it. Its up to you to decide if you want to be prepared on the off change someone is using one of these. Its a simple counter that doesn't stop camping in the first place just makes it harder. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:44:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Ops Fox wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:So take away one of my slots because you can't make good decisions when choosing a spawn, genius!
(SARCASM LEVEL OVER REGNUM) Not taking away your slots its voluntary Why should I have to pay more isk for this effect? So because you need your scanning drop uplink, I'll have to take away one of my slots to effectively deter enemies from spawning there so the best answer to this thread is not to have scanning uplinks in the first place. Dumb decisions shouldn't be buffered if they're on the players fault
If you don't want to trade in slots then why not just shoot the thing? Besides a DA would still ignore the black uplink or just not pay attention and spawn there. I was the last person to die on my squad and when we all respawned they were heading to the next objective in that time of 10 secs a milita newb came up and camped with a shottii the entire squad had no clue and it was a honest mistake not a stupid one. |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:55:00 -
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Its not a nerf you can still camp normal spawns its a special counter not a nerf. It was a mistake but it was a honest one and besides if I'm willing to pay isk for something that's not to farfetched rhen why not. When did I bring up snipers? Look its not a nerf its not stopping you from camping its not requiring any extra unless you choose to, it a simple easily gotten around expansive uplinks that's pretty reasonable considering we are human and make mistakes |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:58:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:So by your logic whenever you make a mistake, the game should be changed to where it can't happen again? And by that same logic, whenever you get sniped while running through an open field you think sniper rifles should get nerfed. HTFU
By my logic a Counter for being sniped al ready exist, those dampeners work, so by your logic it should be removed? |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:58:00 -
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Its not free it cost twice as much. Its a simple counter its not taking away from camping just means you have to work hardee to camp every uplink. The idea is to pay more ISK for a simple weak counter than anyone can counter with a little effort, its not free it cost twice as much as the normal uplink.
This doesn't stop or nerf camping just means you have to work harder if I'm willing to pay extra money. Very simple concept the exact same concept as warfare, the idea is to make counters you have to pay for to beat tactics and OP tools of the enemy its the perfect imbalance and countering design not a nerf look at this from a different perspective people are human they will make mistakes let them waste more money payfor safty that's doesn't effect you at all. How much do you camp anyway? |
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Posted - 2012.10.22 15:41:00 -
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Its not a nerf you can still camp, and most eont even use it cause it cost so much, this is a special uplink not all uplinks. You could still camp if your smart or have dampeners this is a counter, not a nerf
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