I don't see how using a grenade as a mine is an exploit, but to curb spam it would be nice to only let like 6 grenades active at a time.
That said, I don't use AV grenades nor Vehicles, so maybe there is a max amount of AV grenades active already.

you can't fight them because no one can see them. How is this fun? I don't want to have a shouting match about fighting fair but how dose something this powerful not have a counter mesure to fight it?!

It's bad enough that My Methana can be locked onto by a swarm lancher ment to take out Tanks that have 10X's as much armor! I propose that active scanner Paint AV equipment on the mini map. that way they'er at the very least avoidable.

I've walked around a spot on the map with at least 12 AVs. It IS an exploit since there are demolitions specifically for proximity explosions against vehicles. AV geenates are just that, grenades, they blow up after (x) time. Mines do not unless specifically set.

too bad the explosives will never be as useful. you set three down and unless the vehciles runs directly over it, it won't go off.
AV grenades love to jump at the vehicle giving it a wider area of effect
i played around with the proximity bombs and the only way for them to be effective is setting them on a narrow ridge where LAVs like to go through.

if they had a jump maybe they would see more use, but right now you have better luck with using more remote explosives.

+ 1 I guess that would work but it'd be better if AV grenades timed out of the map after so long of inactivity. If you want a minefield, use SP in Demolitions. That's what they're there for.

perhaps they could tone the grenades down so that they couldn't destroy the car directly but total it (set it on fire) so that you would have to ditch it or rep it to move on. thoughts?

perhaps they could tone the grenades down so that they couldn't destroy the car directly but total it (set it on fire) so that you would have to ditch it or rep it to move on. thoughts?

AV grenades is supposed to be a futurist Anti-tank grenade like the RPG-6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-6 not a friggin anti vehicle mines

you can't fight them because no one can see them. How is this fun? I don't want to have a shouting match about fighting fair but how dose something this powerful not have a counter mesure?!

It's bad enough that my Methana (the armor LAV) can be locked onto by a swarm lancher ment to take out Tanks that have 10X's as much armor! I propose that active scanner Paint AV equipment on the mini map. that way they'er at the very least avoidable.

So I searched, but didn't fid an topics related to this..

I'm pretty tired of people spamming AV grenades on the ground that sit there all game until a vehicle runs over it. I can't even drive a tank 5 ft without one being on the ground. It should be a sinple fix of putting a timer on the grenades of "If Player throws AV Grenade > Active 10 second timer

That way the grenades are removed from the map after 10 seconds of inactivity that way people can safely drive tanks or LAVs safely. (I fly DS's but I can't use any ground vehicle with this exploit.

if they did that why not just remove AV grenades all together. because that would make them completely useless.

Maybe, but then again I wouldn't call blowing up my 120k ISk LAV' a Drop in the bucket. I'm not sure if you have had the pleasure of trying to rep a vehicle in a fire fight. vehicle armor reps take a ton of PG so your down to your structure as is already.

it takes me 2 AV grenades to destroy a merc LAV. it takes a more expensive AV grenade to take out something of higher value.

and depending on where the grenade hits it can instant gib the vehicle no matter what. the price of a armor rep on the vehicle is worth the rewards if your vehicle comes out alive. plus they are just jeeps and you can be shot out of them and they explode on impact with explosives.

as for "i put lots of money it should eat damage" it's a fast jeep, nothing more. putting more money on something that will inevitably blow up is your own undoing.
you run over heavies without taking a single drop in shield or health. consider that a blessing.

I don't see how using a grenade as a mine is an exploit, but to curb spam it would be nice to only let like 6 grenades active at a time.
That said, I don't use AV grenades nor Vehicles, so maybe there is a max amount of AV grenades active already.

prety sure 6 is more than enough to kill a marader considering how OP AV is at the moment

it takes me 2 AV grenades to destroy a merc LAV. it takes a more expensive AV grenade to take out something of higher value.

and depending on where the grenade hits it can instant gib the vehicle no matter what. the price of a armor rep on the vehicle is worth the rewards if your vehicle comes out alive. plus they are just jeeps and you can be shot out of them and they explode on impact with explosives.

as for "i put lots of money it should eat damage" it's a fast jeep, nothing more. putting more money on something that will inevitably blow up is your own undoing.
you run over heavies without taking a single drop in shield or health. consider that a blessing.

you can't fight them because no one can see them. How is this fun? I don't want to have a shouting match about fighting fair but how dose something this powerful not have a counter mesure?!

It's bad enough that my Methana (the armor LAV) can be locked onto by a swarm lancher ment to take out Tanks that have 10X's as much armor! I propose that active scanner Paint AV equipment on the mini map. that way they'er at the very least avoidable.

You can see them when you are close, just just can't remove them. The only way to do so is by suicide in a vehicle.

the bitter irony is that you need to spec into prox explosives but the milita AV grenades are free (no SP needed), powerful, and you get 50 free when you start out the gate...

A grenade is when you pull the pin and it blows up after a period of time ie 5seconds

A mine is triggered when something passes over it and has no timer

The AV gernade is currently acting like an AV mine with an unlimited time but also you can throw as many as you want and make a minefield which is an exploit because the AV grenade is not acting like a grenade should

Anyone who does this is using an exploit to earn WP and kills

Milita AV grenades? Never seen 'em. The first ones are at level 1 Grenadier.

Pretty sure the only milita grenades are the 'locus'

Edit: Maybe one of the assault builds gets 50 low skill AV's free, I remember having some. But once they are gone no joy.

Only way of noticing the mines is to keep looking at the ground while driving, hopefully you'll see some white sticks on the ground and immediately back off (or run over a few with an active Shield Hardener).