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knight of 6
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.22 01:09:00 -
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signed. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2012.10.22 02:53:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Fargen Icehole wrote:Just out of curiousity. I wonder how many of the people that want a time change, were the same ones saying HTFU, when others complained about unfair game mechanics, OP weapons, etc, etc. Just sayin' Yes turrets have been OP for months, now the hulls they are attached to are paper. Since it's not changing before the tourney learn the counters that work and practice fighting different strategies. I still deeply disapprove of the Friday times when the resolution is so simple. I don't think you read his post right Noc. Just sayin' Pre-empting the argument that I don't recognize the difference between broken and unfair.
While the two aren't necessarily the same, they're not mutually exclusive. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.22 03:39:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Fargen Icehole wrote:Just out of curiousity. I wonder how many of the people that want a time change, were the same ones saying HTFU, when others complained about unfair game mechanics, OP weapons, etc, etc. Just sayin' Yes turrets have been OP for months, now the hulls they are attached to are paper. Since it's not changing before the tourney learn the counters that work and practice fighting different strategies. I still deeply disapprove of the Friday times when the resolution is so simple. I don't think you read his post right Noc. Just sayin' Pre-empting the argument that I don't recognize the difference between broken and unfair. While the two aren't necessarily the same, they're not mutually exclusive.
Turrets have broken amount of damage, yet everyone has fair access. The tourney schedule is not broken, but is completely unfair. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
162
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Posted - 2012.10.22 06:40:00 -
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+1 for either a time change or change the day to Saturday. I know most of my crew is not on till evenings EST on weekdays. |
m4dd mudd
Doomheim
0
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Posted - 2012.10.22 07:42:00 -
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how do you know who is in this tournement? I've seen a couple lists but a couple corps that I think are going to be in the tournemant weren't listed... and one list had 17 corps listed... so how do you know is there a list somewhere?
I really would hope that CCP would have been smart enough to post an update saying it filled up whenever it fills up and post such information of participants...
also agree with petition |
D3aTH D3alER54
The Southern Legion
130
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Posted - 2012.10.22 11:13:00 -
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m4dd mudd wrote:how do you know who is in this tournement? I've seen a couple lists but a couple corps that I think are going to be in the tournemant weren't listed... and one list had 17 corps listed... so how do you know is there a list somewhere?
I really would hope that CCP would have been smart enough to post an update saying it filled up whenever it fills up and post such information of participants...
also agree with petition
Maybe it hasn't filled up? 0.o |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.22 11:55:00 -
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Noc bro I feel your pain man. If your needing someone to share with I'm here for you. Also its not gey to have a hug from another man so... |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:09:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:I think we should take a poll of the corps getting involved with this. I haven't met one person who likes the Friday times. Why not just lengthen the Saturday/Sunday sessions and cut Friday all together? I understand not all times work for everyone across the world, but middle of workday Friday for the US is obviously excluding a significant number of people. At least try to be fair to everyone.
So far in support: Imperfects STB WTF URA Delta Force Synergy Shadow Mercs
Yeah good idea. Let's play games on US servers, at US chosen times, with US merged ringer corps Want the win directly, a cup of coffee and some popcorn ? Ok exagerating a bit but meh....
Let's be honest. Largest player base and thus largest corp will be in the US. So the ones better suited to have a constant stream of players ? => US.
Personnaly, i'd rather play in the afternoon EU time and play on EU servers. No doubt about that. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1032
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:14:00 -
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ccp still showing bias by not saying anything and hoping it will go away.
when they do say something they will say its to late to change.
BIAS!
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:28:00 -
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Updated to add more corps who have members in support. |
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:35:00 -
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This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. |
Sponge- Bob
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:36:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. ^
lol the kid who needs to use a TANK to pub stomp, and he still loses |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:38:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. Of course that's all fair game and things will be abused but this is a controlled event, it should be set up so it best suits the convenience of everyone. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:41:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on.
Your viewpoint is narrow. It's a tournament, and they stretched it out over 3 weeks, 1/3 of which takes place in the middle of the work day for a large segment (perhaps even majority) of all players in the beta. There is no balance where it is good one week, bad another. There is no reason it cannot all be done on the weekend, we already have two 2-hour blocks scheduled. Adding another to each, or making Saturday a 6 hour event (so no TZ is during a weekday) would be the fairest without compromising anyone. Other than some corps not wanting to reshuffle the sweet hand they were dealt, I am not understanding the argument against condensing the competition to the weekend. Work > Video games. |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:00:00 -
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Seems Sponge Bob sat down funnny. I guess I must've face rolled him once or twice in the past, so his comment is fair I guess. QQ more.
Back on topic.
I can see why you find the times un-fair, but as has been mentioned, everyone was happy to sign up for those times and now people want them changing?. They're not ideal for me either, but luckily I have very few commitments at the minute.
When we have world cups and things like that, we don't just have it at the time everyone is used to being up, we have it at local time to that area and the world adapts and watches it whenever they can. The teams adapt.
The same can be said here imo, it's a euro tourny as that's where CCP is based pretty much. It's unfortunate, but those are the rules. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:09:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Seems Sponge Bob sat down funnny. I guess I must've face rolled him once or twice in the past, so his comment is fair I guess. QQ more.
Back on topic.
I can see why you find the times un-fair, but as has been mentioned, everyone was happy to sign up for those times and now people want them changing?. They're not ideal for me either, but luckily I have very few commitments at the minute.
When we have world cups and things like that, we don't just have it at the time everyone is used to being up, we have it at local time to that area and the world adapts and watches it whenever they can. The teams adapt.
The same can be said here imo, it's a euro tourny as that's where CCP is based pretty much. It's unfortunate, but those are the rules. Well what happens, happens. Personally I am free the next couple of Fridays assuming I'm not called in to do some work.
Wish ya GGs SI, still want to have a friendly corp battle though. |
RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:07:00 -
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Sponge- Bob wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. ^ lol the kid who needs to use a TANK to pub stomp, and he still loses
The americans making excuses before the tournament has even started.
LOL |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.10.22 21:47:00 -
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Bump, the hours need to be moved. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:15:00 -
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Just win your weekend matches = no problem ;) |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:24:00 -
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RankRancid wrote:Sponge- Bob wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. ^ lol the kid who needs to use a TANK to pub stomp, and he still loses The americans making excuses before the tournament has even started. LOL looking forward to the sniper fights Rank
pew pew |
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:24:00 -
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Tournament organized play, in a pre arrangement format and time, 1st 2nd and 3rd get a prize
Corp battles= freaking free fall, anything goes winner takes all
see the difference between the two, a tournament is arrangement and should work to befit of ALL people taking part. so please stop the. IMA GONA STOP YOU AFTER DOWN TIME ARGUMENT. its a dumb argument that does not even hold up to any form of logic.
so please change the time, to make it work for all |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:37:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:RankRancid wrote:Sponge- Bob wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:This is only the start od these kinda issues.
What happens when we're on Tranquility and your asleep and we're not?. I'll not be waiting for you to wake up before we stomp you.
I'm pretty sure that time zones will be abused by both attackers and defenders in the coming months once game goes live. The whole deal with it being one shard allows this kinda abuse. Everyone can't be on all at the same time.
Like Tony suggests, if it matters to you then change your schedule or don't bother. It's only going to become more of an issue later on. ^ lol the kid who needs to use a TANK to pub stomp, and he still loses The americans making excuses before the tournament has even started. LOL looking forward to the sniper fights Rank pew pew
Spaceage Starlingrad |
RankRancid
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
51
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:17:00 -
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Me too Mr Sleepy Zan
I don't think it is going to be easy for either side if we get to meet in the tournament.
Good luck to everyone that gets to make it in the tournament. Lots and lots of clones and isk are going to get burnt in it.
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:31:00 -
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RankRancid wrote:Me too Mr Sleepy Zan
I don't think it is going to be easy for either side if we get to meet in the tournament.
Good luck to everyone that gets to make it in the tournament. Lots and lots of clones and isk are going to get burnt in it.
I hope the EU servers have that right amount of lag from the last build's US servers that I loved
Ideally I hope we get into a match that has multiple rounds and alternating servers. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:49:00 -
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from the quick test we did today, EU and US lag is pretty much in the same place now, i can play happily on US servers, and US players who were squady with me today, seemed to do pretty ok job on EU servers :) so hopefully their server location won't be too much of a deciding factor |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:53:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:from the quick test we did today, EU and US lag is pretty much in the same place now, i can play happily on US servers, and US players who were squady with me today, seemed to do pretty ok job on EU servers :) so hopefully their server location won't be too much of a deciding factor Why does that disappoint me a little.
I miss actually having to lead people with the sniper. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:58:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Tournament organized play, in a pre arrangement format and time, 1st 2nd and 3rd get a prize
Corp battles= freaking free fall, anything goes winner takes all
see the difference between the two, a tournament is arrangement and should work to befit of ALL people taking part. so please stop the. IMA GONA STOP YOU AFTER DOWN TIME ARGUMENT. its a dumb argument that does not even hold up to any form of logic.
so please change the time, to make it work for all
Well said. In null sec, it's fine if it's unfair. All's fair in love and WAR. For a sponsored tourney, it should be fair for all. |
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